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“Their emotions and choices do not mean I have to experience them the way they do. Empathy isn’t about absorbing their storm but understanding it from a safe distance.” - Eric Charron
In this episode, I had the pleasure of sitting down with Eric Chiron, an experienced executive and the author of Have You Ever Had a Boss That..., a practical guide to managing upwards and succeeding in challenging workplace environments. With over 25 years of experience at companies like Microsoft and Capital One, Eric has identified nine archetypes of difficult managers and shared strategies to help us navigate these dynamics with skill and confidence.

Key Highlights:

1. Understanding the Nine Manager Archetypes:
   Eric broke down common types of challenging leaders and shared insights into “The Raw Nerve,” a volatile and impulsive manager who often disrupts long-term goals with snap decisions. He explained how emotional intelligence, diplomacy, and proactive preparation are key to managing these personalities effectively.
2. Setting Emotional Boundaries:
   One of the biggest lessons I took away from our conversation was how important it is to separate our emotions from our manager’s volatility. Eric emphasized cognitive empathy—being able to understand someone’s perspective without absorbing their emotional state—as a powerful tool for staying grounded.
3. Coping Strategies for Dysfunctional Workplaces:
   Eric shared actionable tools like cognitive reframing, managing personal triggers, and anticipating challenging behaviors. These strategies help us not only navigate tough situations but also build stronger professional relationships with our leaders.
4. Growing Your Manager:
   Eric also talked about turning managing upwards into a relational strategy. I loved how he reframed this idea as a way to create mutual success. By focusing on empathy and understanding, we can help our leaders evolve alongside us, fostering a more collaborative environment.

My Takeaways:

• Take a moment to pause and reflect before reacting to emotional triggers. This simple step can help us respond with clarity and composure.
• Practice cognitive empathy by asking yourself, “What might this person be going through?” It allows you to understand their motivations without taking on their emotions.
• Develop a clear communication strategy to address impulsive or counterproductive behavior in a diplomatic way.

Contact:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ericcharran/
Book: Have You Ever Had a Boss That . . .: Succeeding in a Dysfunctional Workplace

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