Till The Wheels Fall Off (TWFO) podcast is hosted by Matt and Paige Robinson. TWFO focuses primarily on the relationship dynamics between spouses and partners of alcoholics or addicts and ways to best navigate the difficulties of codependent, addicted, unstable, and narcissistic behavior. The program is enjoyable and informative for anyone seeking self-betterment, inspiration, perspective, or direction with themes ranging from boundaries, recovery, marriage, and parenting with tons of humor ...
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#234 - Paige's Perspective: Boundaries Aren’t About Them
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12:13Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this episode, Paige talks about the difference between boundaries and expectations, how to shift your language so boundaries feel empowering instead of exhausting, and why they’re less about fairness and more about safety. Boundaries are the rules you live by — not rules for anyone else. If you’ve ever strugg…
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#233 - Should I Stay or Should I Go? How to Finally Know for Yourself
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1:02:17Have an episode suggestion? Text us! “Should I stay or should I go?” It’s the question every spouse of an addict whispers in the dark, and the one that can paralyze you with fear, guilt, and hope. It's the question with no clear answer. It's not "leave" or "run" or any other number of invalidating things you've heard...it's also not "stay no matter…
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#232 - Mindset Monday: How to Be Sober in a World Obsessed With Alcohol
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1:24:57Have an episode suggestion? Text us! Getting sober is one thing. Staying sober - living sober in a world where alcohol is everywhere - is another challenge entirely. In this episode of Mindset Monday, Matt dives into what it really looks like to be sober day-to-day, from battling boredom and navigating social situations to understanding the brain s…
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#231 - Paige's Perspective: Why the “Codependent” Label Gets It Wrong
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16:59Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this episode of Paige’s Perspective, I’m breaking down the truth about betrayal trauma — and why it’s so much more than cheating. From financial betrayal to chronic lies, gaslighting, broken promises, and crossed boundaries, betrayal in a relationship takes many forms and leaves deep wounds. Too often, betray…
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#230 - Beyond Sobriety: The Real Checklist for Change
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1:13:55Have an episode suggestion? Text us! Sobriety alone doesn’t prove someone has changed. Real recovery is measured in behavior - respect, honesty, accountability, and humility - not just the absence of a substance. In this episode, Matt breaks down Lundy Bancroft’s Checklist for Assessing Change and adapts it to the realities of addiction recovery. Y…
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#229 - Mindset Monday: Imperfect Action Beats Perfect Conditions
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40:36Have an episode suggestion? Text us! This week on Mindset Monday, Matt takes on one of the biggest traps we fall into—waiting for the “right time.” Whether it’s getting sober, leaving a toxic relationship, or simply taking the next step toward the life you want, we convince ourselves that better conditions will magically arrive to make change easie…
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#228 - Paige's Perspective: Why I Don’t Like Talking About Addiction
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11:25Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this episode of Paige’s Perspective, I share why I don’t like talking about addiction — and why I believe it’s often just a convenient cover for behaviors that need to be addressed no matter what. Too often we focus on understanding addiction, thinking it will give us the answers we need to heal, when the tru…
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#227 - The Most Asked Questions Wives Have for Us – Part 2
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1:18:40Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this follow-up to one of our most popular episodes, Matt dives deeper into the questions wives, girlfriends, and partners send in about men, addiction, recovery, and relationships. From understanding why logic rarely works with someone in active addiction, to how appreciation, boundaries, and emotional suppor…
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#226 - Mindset Monday: Five Skills Every Guy Must Master
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1:15:56Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this Mindset Monday, Matt takes men beyond sobriety into the deeper work that actually rebuilds trust and creates lasting change. Drawing from his own journey of repairing his marriage after a decade of addiction, he unpacks the five components of emotional intelligence: self-awareness, self-regulation, socia…
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#225 - Paige's Perspective: It Didn’t Happen to Me, It Happened for Me
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12:21Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this week’s episode of Paige’s Perspective, I unpack a quote from Ted Lasso that stopped me in my tracks: “This didn’t happen to me; it happened for me.” I talk about what it’s like to sit with anger, resentment, and grief (even after years of healing) and why it’s okay to not be grateful for the pain itself,…
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#224 - The Most Asked Questions Wives Have for US - Answered Honestly
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1:17:51Have an episode suggestion? Text us! If you’ve ever wanted to understand what was actually going on in my head when I was lying, numbing, and pretending to change, this is the episode to save or reference back to. I'm not an authority on all of the questions you may have about your addicted loved one, but I've been through it myself and walked thro…
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#223 - Mindset Monday: The Cost of Staying the Same & Why Change Feels Like Death Before It Feels Like Freedom
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1:06:30Have an episode suggestion? Text us! This episode is for the man standing at the crossroads, the one who knows the truth but hasn’t taken action yet. The one who’s tired of lying to everyone, especially himself. Matt gets brutally honest about what it really takes to change...not just to get sober, but to become the kind of man you can respect. The…
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#222 - Emotionally Immature Parents, Enmeshment, and the Breaking Point
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1:03:30Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this powerful follow-up to our recent episode on family dynamics, we go deeper into what it’s like to grow up in a dysfunctional family system and what it takes to break free. We talk about emotionally immature parents, the painful dynamics of enmeshment, and the subtle but lasting damage of emotional neglect…
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#221 - "I Don’t Know What to Do": When Awareness Isn’t Enough
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1:03:25Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this deeply honest Mindset Monday episode, Matt speaks directly to the men who find themselves stuck in the messy middle of knowing they need to change but not knowing how. Whether it’s addiction, emotional immaturity, broken trust, or just being a shell of the man you hoped to be—saying “I don’t know” might …
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#220 - Paige's Perspective: Micro-Wins: The Tiny Steps That Change Everything
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11:04Have an episode suggestion? Text us! We don’t talk enough about how hard the “normal” stuff can feel when you’re coming out of survival mode. In this episode, I’m diving into the power of micro-wins; why they matter, why we dismiss them, and how they help retrain your brain and rebuild your sense of safety. This one’s for anyone who feels stuck, un…
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#219 - When Your Partner Can’t See Their Family’s Dysfunction
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1:10:54Have an episode suggestion? Text us! This episode dives into one of the hardest issues couples face in recovery: toxic family dynamics. Is your spouse enabled by their family, are they kept under control or in the family system because of wealth? This one's for you. We’re talking about the emotional chaos that comes when one partner sees the dysfun…
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#218 - The Most Abused Step in Recovery: Don’t Weaponize the 9th Step
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33:00Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this audio newsletter (or maybe Mindset Mondays - still not sure here...working title), Matt tackles one of the most misunderstood and misused ideas in recovery: Step 9’s infamous “except when to do so would injure them or others” clause. Too often, this line becomes a get-out-of-accountability-free card used…
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#217 - Paige's Perspective: This Is My Nervous System Rehab Part 2
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13:38Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this honest follow-up to Wheelie Rehab, Paige shares where she’s at in her nervous system reset—mentally, emotionally, spiritually, and physically. From slow mornings and ASMR background vibes to decluttering closets and skipping caffeine, she’s rebuilding structure to save herself from burnout. But this epis…
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#216 - This Isn’t Who I Married: Growing Apart, Shifting Roles & Identity Changes in Recovery
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52:47Have an episode suggestion? Text us! Sobriety changes everything. Not just for the person getting sober, but for the relationship too. In this episode, Matt and Paige talk about what really happens when the chaos ends, the roles shift, and the people in the relationship start to realize they're not who they used to be. Some relationships were built…
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#215 - Audio Newsletter: 12 Real Questions Men Ask About Shame, Trust, and Being a Good Man
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47:45Have an episode suggestion? Text us! This one’s for the guys who never ask, and for the partners who wish they would. I answered 12 of the most honest, uncomfortable, and important questions I get asked (usually in DMs) from men trying to figure out who the hell they are, how to change, and how to make things right. We’re talking shame, trust, acco…
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#214 - Paige's Perspective: This Is My Nervous System Rehab
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8:54Have an episode suggestion? Text us! This week’s Paige’s Perspective isn’t polished; it’s personal. I’m in the middle of a full-blown nervous system reset because burnout caught up with me, and pushing through stopped working. I talk about overwhelm, guilt, hustle culture, and why I’ve traded productivity for consistency, structure, naps, and sun. …
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#213 - What It Really Takes to Leave: One Woman’s Story of Strength, Survival, and Starting Over
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1:57:50Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this episode, we talk with a guest who opens up about the quiet, painful, and often invisible process of leaving a long-term relationship with someone struggling with addiction. This is not a story of one big moment. It’s about years of internal conflict, emotional detachment, financial planning, and facing t…
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#212 - Paige's Perspective: Why ‘Just Trust Yourself’ Doesn’t Work
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13:53Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this episode of Paige’s Perspective, we’re talking about something most healing journeys overlook—validation. You’ve probably heard things like “just trust yourself” or “you don’t need anyone else’s opinion.” But what if you’ve been gaslit, manipulated, blamed, and lied to by someone you loved? What if you sp…
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#211 - How Patriarchy Built the Recovery Model — And Why It Has to Change
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1:29:23Have an episode suggestion? Text us! This might be one of our most important conversations yet. In this episode of Till the Wheels Fall Off, Matt and Paige take a deeper look at how patriarchy still influences recovery, relationships, and the systems that claim to support healing. We break down how women are often expected to stay silent, show grac…
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#210 - Paige's Perspective: Heavy Week? Here’s a Soft Landing
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8:55Have an episode suggestion? Text us! Feeling like life keeps piling on? Like you’re stuck in survival mode? In this short and honest episode, Paige offers a gentle reset for your nervous system and your spirit. If you’re overwhelmed, overstimulated, or just done, this is your reminder: you’re not broken, and you’re not alone. You’re in a season—and…
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#209 - Burned Out, Numb, and Angry: The Hidden Cost of Stress
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1:14:18Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this episode of Till the Wheels Fall Off, we're not giving advice from the other side of healing. We're talking to you from inside the mess. Lately, the stress has been loud. We're forgetful, irritable, snapping at people we love, crying for no reason, and second-guessing everything we've already worked so ha…
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#208 - Audio Newsletter: Why Men Stay Silent & How to Start Talking Without Losing Yourself
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35:55Have an episode suggestion? Text us! Most men don’t stay quiet because they have nothing to say, they stay quiet because they’ve been trained to believe it’s safer that way. In this episode, Matt breaks down the some of the reasons he and other men struggle to open up: fear of being judged, minimized pain, past betrayals, and the belief that emotio…
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#207 - Paige's Perspective: Learning to Trust Again Starts with Trusting Yourself
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15:55Have an episode suggestion? Text us! What happens when you find out the truth years later—when the person you trusted most finally admits they lied? This episode is about the invisible aftermath of long-term betrayal. Paige walks through how repeated lies, not just addiction, reshape your brain, destroy self-trust, and make you question your realit…
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#206 - The 4 Layers of Trust: What Rebuilding Actually Looks Like
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1:02:43Have an episode suggestion? Text us! If you’ve heard this from a partner or found yourself asking it, this episode breaks down exactly why rebuilding trust isn’t a single moment. It’s a layered process that takes time, consistency, and real change. In this episode of Till the Wheels Fall Off, Matt and Paige walk you through the four essential layer…
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#205 - Audio Newsletter: "How Do I Trust Again?"
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33:40Have an episode suggestion? Text us! Trust gets asked about all the time. “How do I trust them again?” But that question is usually hiding something deeper, like “How do I stop feeling anxious?” or “How do I get back to normal?” In this audio newsletter, Matt talks about why that question might be the wrong place to start. This episode touches on t…
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#204 - Paige's Perspective: Track Less, Trust More: Why Self-Monitoring Might Be Making You Anxious
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11:45Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this episode of Paige’s Perspective, Paige gets real about something many of us are doing in the name of healing: self-monitoring everything—our sleep, food, steps, moods, routines. What starts as a tool for awareness can quickly turn into another form of anxiety and self-doubt, especially for those recoverin…
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#203 - They’re Really Good at What They Do: The Psychology of Manipulators
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1:20:29Have an episode suggestion? Text us! Why do people stay in abusive relationships? Why don’t they just leave? In this raw and powerful episode, Matt and Paige break down the complex psychological tactics that manipulators use to keep their partners stuck—DARVO, gaslighting, love bombing, guilt-tripping, isolation, and more. Inspired by recent high-p…
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#202 - Paige's Perspective: The Truth About Self-Care: It’s Not Always Pretty
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13:05Have an episode suggestion? Text us! Self-care isn’t always candles and calm. In this episode of Paige’s Perspective, Paige breaks down what real self-care actually looks like—and calls out the way many people use self-care as a cover for avoidance. From the difference between self-care and self-indulgence to the six key categories (mental, emotion…
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#201 - Dr. Jake Porter -The Truth About Sex Addiction, Betrayal Trauma, and How to Rebuild Trust
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1:30:39Have an episode suggestion? Text us! Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this deeply insightful episode of Till the Wheels Fall Off, we sit down with Dr. Jake Porter, a leading expert in relational and betrayal trauma, sex addiction recovery, and emotional intimacy. Dr. Porter brings years of professional expertise and personal experience to un…
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#200 - Paige's Perspective: You Don’t Have a Communication Problem
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10:46Have an episode suggestion? Text us! You’ve rewritten the message in your notes app a dozen times. You’ve softened your tone, used “I” statements, stayed calm, and begged them to meet you halfway—but nothing changes. In this episode, Paige breaks down the hard truth: most of you don’t have a communication problem. You have a respect problem. A valu…
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#199 - Is It a Disease or a Cop-Out?
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1:25:39Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this episode of Till the Wheels Fall Off, Matt and Paige take on one of the most controversial topics in the recovery world - the disease model of addiction. Is it a disease? Yes. But is it an excuse? Absolutely not. They break down the origins of the disease model, where it helps, where it massively fails, a…
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#198 - Paige's Perspective: How to Survive Maycember Without Losing Yourself
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10:51Have an episode suggestion? Text us! It’s May—aka Maycember—that time of year when school events, sports, recitals, end-of-year chaos, and mental overload all collide. If you're feeling stretched thin, resentful, or like you might snap over a missed sign-up genius… you're not alone. In this episode of Paige’s Perspective, I’m talking about the emot…
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#197 - What Recovery Gets Wrong: The Partner's Side of the Story
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1:09:41Have an episode suggestion? Text us! The recovery world loves to talk about healing, but what about the people most impacted by the chaos? In this brutally honest episode, Matt and Paige pull back the curtain on what treatment centers, therapists, and traditional recovery programs often miss: the spouse’s experience. Why are partners immediately la…
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#196 - Paige's Perspective: Back to the Basics. Stop Excusing the Inexcusable
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13:08Have an episode suggestion? Text us! You don’t need more clarity. You need permission to trust what you already know. This episode is about cutting through the noise, the over-explaining, and the endless justifications. Paige brings it back to the basics: it’s not about the substance — it’s about the behavior. Always has been. You’ll hear the truth…
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#195 - Chaos Outside, Peace Inside: Reclaiming Sanity in a Broken World
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1:09:53Have an episode suggestion? Text us! If life feels impossibly heavy right now, you’re not alone, and you’re not crazy. In this episode, we unpack why so many people are struggling with their mental health in 2025 and why blame - whether it’s directed at politics, finances, partners, or the system - often becomes a trap that keeps us stuck. We don’t…
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#194 - Paige's Perspective: If Mother’s Day Hurts, You’re Not Alone
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11:12Have an episode suggestion? Text us! Mother’s Day can feel complicated, especially when life doesn’t look the way you thought it would. Maybe you’re raising kids alone. Maybe your partner is deep in addiction. Maybe you have an unequal partner and just feel all the feels. In this episode, I talk directly to the women who feel unseen, forgotten, or …
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#193 - How You Say It Matters More Than What You Say
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1:12:24Have an episode suggestion? Text us! This episode isn’t about fixing your partner. It’s not about getting the outcome you’re hoping for. It’s about you - how you respond when you're frustrated, dismissed, overwhelmed, or ignored. We’re talking tone, delivery, body language, and why 93% of communication has nothing to do with the words you use. Whet…
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#192 - Audio Newsletter: You Can Rest, But Don’t Quit
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46:39Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this special audio edition of the newsletter, Matt shares a listener story that’s all too familiar: someone begins the work: therapy, sobriety, growth - but eventually hits a wall and stops. What do you do when your partner says things like “I’m tired of doing the work” or “What if this is the best I get?” Ho…
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#191 - Paige's Perspective: Behavior Over Bullsh*t: Stop Blaming the Label
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10:30Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this episode of Paige’s Perspective, we’re cutting through the noise and getting back to the basics — because somewhere along the way, we started overcomplicating what’s right in front of us. Addiction. Trauma. ADHD. Nervous system dysregulation. You name it — there’s a label for every behavior now, and we’ve…
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#190 - Painful but Necessary: How Natural Consequences Spark Real Change
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1:16:18Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this powerful episode of Till the Wheels Fall Off, we dive deep into one of the most misunderstood concepts in recovery and relationships: natural consequences. We unpack the difference between allowing natural consequences versus trying to teach lessons or punish, and why intentions matter so much. We share …
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#189 - Paige's Perspective: You’re Not Overreacting: The Truth About DARVO
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22:05Have an episode suggestion? Text us! This week on Paige’s Perspective, we’re digging into DARVO—the manipulative pattern people use to avoid accountability by flipping the script and making you question your reality. You’ll learn what DARVO looks like, why it happens, and how to spot it in both loud and subtle forms (even the sweet, guilt-soaked ki…
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#188 - The Truth That Changed Everything: What Finally Made Me Get Sober
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1:34:23Have an episode suggestion? Text us! Matt sits down for an unfiltered, no-holds-barred conversation about the moment everything changed - the exact point he knew he couldn’t lie one more time, couldn’t hide one more day, and had to choose either transformation or destruction. Paige asks the raw questions our listeners always want answered: What fin…
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#187 - Paige's Perspective: When 'It’s Not That Bad' Is Still Too Bad
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13:58Have an episode suggestion? Text us! You’ve said it. Maybe weekly. “He’s just stressed.” “He only acts like this when he’s drinking.” “That's just how they were raised.” But here’s the truth: just because you’ve gotten used to it… doesn’t mean it’s healthy. In this episode, Paige breaks down the quiet ways we minimize emotional abuse and excuse hur…
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#186 - How to Bounce Back: Mistakes, Shame, and Second Chances
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1:20:14Have an episode suggestion? Text us! We all screw up, but how you respond to a mistake says way more about you than the mistake itself. In this episode, we have a raw, honest conversation about emotional regulation, accountability, and how to bounce back after you’ve messed up. Whether it’s a bad tone with your kids or a history of bigger mistakes …
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#185 - Paige's Perspective: Self-Love Isn’t Soft - Why It Scares You and How to Do It Anyway
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20:59Have an episode suggestion? Text us! Do you ever feel afraid to love yourself? You’re not alone—and you’re not broken. In this episode, Paige gets real about the fear, discomfort, and confusion that often comes with the concept of self-love. She unpacks why loving yourself can feel unsafe, selfish, or even threatening depending on your past, your p…
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