The Potent Mind helps you train your attention, rewire unhelpful habits, and be more present, grounded, and resilient. Hosted by Dr. Jerry Gelbart, this science-informed series blends newer, practical psychological teachings plus real-life insight to help you navigate stress, sharpen focus, and shift how you show up in the world. Each short episode invites you to pause, reflect, and build the kind of mind that works for — not against — your goals, your relationships, and your well-being.
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Dr. Gelbart Podcasts
In depth discussions with therapists and counselors about the art, science and technique of psychotherapy. Hosts RJ Thomas and John Webber sit down with experienced and aspiring therapists to discuss how they work, their orientations, techniques and what it’s really like to sit down with clients and get the work done. Not simply a psychology podcast, for professional and the public alike, Talking Therapy offers insights in the world of the working therapist and client. Guests include Marriag ...
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A Biopsychosocialspiritual Approach to Taking Care of Your Body, Mind, and Relationships In this episode, Dr. Jerry Gelbart explores the intricate relationship between our emotions and our intellect, and how to live a more integrated and effective life. Discover why our human capacity for higher reasoning, while a gift that allows us to build socie…
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How to Listen to Your Tears, Distinguish Fear from Anxiety, and Let Go of Ego "Life is a great big canvas and you should throw all the paint on it you can". But what happens when the colors we're painting with are difficult emotions like fear, hurt, or envy? In this episode, we take a deep dive into the language of our feelings to help you understa…
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Episode 20: Navigating Shame, Guilt, and Pride: Healthy Emotional Processing
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2:45Stepping Back from the Mind In this episode, we explore the often-misunderstood emotions of shame, guilt, and pride, providing you with tools for healthier emotional processing. Learn about shame and forgiveness, and how justified guilt, a cognitive response to violating values, can be addressed through apology, amends, and improving for the future…
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In this insightful episode we explore how to clear a space for you to be more effective with your life. By removing self-doubt and insecurity, breaking free of PVR scripts, setting values and priorities, and learning to be more present, you can truly put more into and get more out of life. Discover the path to peace of mind, clarity of thinking, an…
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Values, Mindfulness, and Compassion Welcome, listeners, to another insightful episode! Today, we're tackling a concept that's often at the heart of our well-being discussions, yet one we might be looking at all wrong: self-esteem. What if we told you that self-esteem is not a useful concept? That's the powerful perspective we'll be exploring, drawi…
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Episode 17: Breaking Free from the Victim Triangle
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2:30How to Identify and Transform Self-Defeating Relationship Patterns Are you tired of playing the same old roles in your relationships? In this insightful episode, we explore the powerful, yet often self-defeating, concept of the victim triangle, which we also refer to as PVR. Many of us fall into patterns of thinking and relating to others that lead…
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Tracking Sensation and Refocusing Attention Where is your mind right now? Where do you want it to be? This episode introduces the ‘X Marks the Spot’ technique — a simple yet powerful practice to bring attention back to the body and the moment. Tags: body awareness, mindfulness exercise, sensation, DBT, grounding Hashtags: #XMarksTheSpot #MindBodyPr…
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The Simplest Practice, The Deepest Power The breath is always here — a constant invitation to return to presence. Learn how breath-based awareness anchors you in the moment and supports emotional grounding and nervous system balance. Tags: breathwork, mindfulness, grounding, present moment, stress relief Hashtags: #BreatheHereNow #MindfulBreath ✨ T…
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🎙️ Episode 14: The Five Remembrances – Making Friends with Our Fears
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4:35Subtitle: Mindfulness, Mortality, and Living Fully Welcome back to The Potent Mind! In today’s episode, we explore The Five Remembrances, a profound practice from Buddhist psychology that helps us face life’s most universal realities: aging, illness, death, and separation from what we hold dear. At its heart lies a liberating truth — that our actio…
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Episode 13: The Power of Emotions – From Suffering to Compassion
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9:10Subtitle: The Hidden Power of Emotions Hey everyone, and welcome back! In today’s episode, we’re exploring the landscape of our emotions — how they shape us, challenge us, and ultimately guide us toward healing and connection. We’ll dive into the physical sensations of sadness — that deep emptiness in the heart with its healthy impulse to cry, a re…
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Waking Up from the Trance of Habit So much of life happens automatically — our reactions, our routines, even our relationships. Dr. Gelbart helps you recognize where you’re on autopilot and offers tools to re-enter life intentionally. Tags: autopilot, mindfulness, habits, intentional living, awareness Hashtags: #WakeUpNow #BreakTheTrance ✨ Thanks f…
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The Power of Observation in Mindfulness Observation without judgment is radical. It allows healing without shame and insight without resistance. This episode explains why ‘just noticing’ is one of the most powerful skills you can build. Tags: non-judgment, mindfulness, observation, self-awareness, DBT Hashtags: #JustNotice #NonJudgment ✨ Thanks for…
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How We Get Caught in Thoughts and How to Unhook We all get caught — in anger, rumination, fear. The key is learning how to unhook gently. This episode explores how mindfulness and self-observation disrupt automatic cycles of suffering. Tags: mindfulness, DBT, emotional regulation, thought loops, unhooking Hashtags: #HookedAndFree #MindfulUnhooking …
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Learning to Tune the Frequency of Awareness Imagine your thoughts as radio stations. Some are helpful, others harmful — but most play automatically. Learn how mindfulness teaches you to choose which frequency to amplify, and how to let go of static. Tags: mindfulness, thought patterns, attention, awareness, meditation Hashtags: #TuningIn #MindRadio…
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The Garden of Thoughts and Emotions Your mind is a garden — and your attention is the water. In this episode, we examine how focus strengthens emotional patterns, and how we can redirect attention to cultivate peace, not fear. Tags: emotional regulation, thought patterns, attention, mindfulness, CBT Hashtags: #InnerGarden #WhatYouFeedGrows ✨ Thanks…
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Training the Mind Like a Puppy Training your attention is like training a puppy: it wanders, you bring it back — again and again. Dr. Gelbart explores how self-kindness and repetition can form new mental habits without self-criticism. Tags: attention training, self-kindness, mindfulness, habit change, DBT Hashtags: #TrainYourMind #MindfulRepetition…
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Effortless Attention and Letting Go of Force Trying harder is often the enemy of presence. In this episode, you’ll learn how mindfulness grows not from effort, but from allowing. Explore the paradox of ‘not trying’ and how gentleness cultivates deeper focus. Tags: mindfulness, acceptance, effortlessness, attention training, CBT Hashtags: #Effortles…
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Episode 5: You’re Always Practicing Something
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9:25So Be Careful What You Practice What you repeat becomes your reality. This episode reminds us that every moment is a form of practice — and that includes worry, judgment, or compassion. Dr. Gelbart explores how bringing awareness to our mental ‘rehearsals’ gives us the power to change them. Tags: habits, neuroplasticity, mindfulness, emotional awar…
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An Invitation to Awareness and Change What if your brain could change — not just react — to your life? In this opening episode, Dr. Jerry Gelbart introduces The Potent Mind approach: a blend of neuroscience, psychotherapy, and mindfulness that helps you consciously rewire your habits, emotions, and beliefs. You’ll explore the foundations of attenti…
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Why Presence is More Powerful Than Peace Many people confuse mindfulness with relaxation — but this series goes deeper. In Episode 2, Dr. Gelbart explains why mindfulness is not about zoning out — it's about waking up. Learn the difference between passive calm and active awareness, and how training your attention can change the entire landscape of …
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Episode 3: “You Create Your Own Universe as You Go Along”
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11:10Mindfulness as a Creative Force “You create your own universe as you go along.” – Winston Churchill This episode explores how your perceptions shape your reality — and how to interrupt automatic thinking patterns that no longer serve you. Dr. Gelbart connects insights from mindfulness, cognitive therapy, and neuroplasticity to show you how focused …
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How Repetition Rewires Your Reality "What you practice, you become." Episode 4 dives into the science of neuroplasticity and how consistent attention — not willpower — shapes your identity. Dr. Gelbart introduces key brain-based concepts to help you build the life you want by practicing the thoughts, behaviors, and emotions that align with your dee…
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Talking Therapy Ep. 41 The Making of a Therapist Part 1
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1:09:49RJ and John sit down with “Rebecca.” Rebecca is the pseudonym of a new marriage and family therapy student. She is a young woman who has decided to embark on her education and training in psychology and counseling. This will be a multi-part series where we touch base with Rebecca time to time throughout her education and training. RJ and John both …
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Talking Therapy Ep. 40 Victor Yalom, PhD. On What We Can Learn from The Greats
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1:04:48Therapist, internet entrepreneur and cartoonist Victor Yalom, PhD joins us to talk about what he has learned from the greats. As someone who has had access to some of the greatest minds in the field he has some very interesting things to say about presence and being with clients in the here and now. Victor is also owner of the site Psychotherapy.ne…
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Talking Therapy Ep. 39 Therapy in the time of Coronavirus with Dr. Amir Ettekal
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43:40The world with Coronavirus has posed challenges for therapists everywhere. With significant parts of the country in extensive lockdown many of us have switched our entire practices to an online format. Will this change therapy forever or is this just a slight adjustment - or are we all just suffering from Adjustment Disorder? RJ and John practice s…
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Talking Therapy Ep. 38 Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation with Dr. Martha Koo
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1:17:17Dr. Martha Koo of the Neurowellness Spa in Manhattan Beach, CA sits down with the boys to talk about the FDA approved treatment of Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation (or TMS). Dr. Koo, a psychiatrist, talks about how TMS works and how it can help. She also discusses some of the other treatments her clinic offers including IV Ketamine and Photobiomod…
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Talking Therapy Ep. 37 Making a Living in Psychotherapy with Moe Gelbart, PhD
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1:12:48John and RJ sit down to talk with one of the lions of the field of psychotherapy, Dr. Moe Gelbart. An administrator, therapist and businessman, Dr. Gelbart recounts a long and successful career in psychotherapy and gives the boys insight into how he's helped people and made a good living in psychotherapy. This episode is exclusively sponsored by Be…
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Talking Therapy Ep. 36 Working with Suicide with Norine VanderHooven, LCSW
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1:09:46Suicide may be one of the most intense and difficult things for any therapist to work with. Norine VanderHooven, LCSW and Chair of the Youth Suicide Prevention Committee for the American Association of Suicidology joins us to talk about facts and strategies to use with clients expressing suicidal ideation. This episode is exclusively sponsored by B…
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Talking Therapy Ep. 35 Working with Adoption with Lesli Johnson MFT
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1:13:59Lesli Johnson, MFT joins us to discuss clinical issues around adoption. She brings her own personal perspective as someone who is adopted as well as a caring and passionate clinical approach to this subject. She discusses a concept known as the Ghost Kingdom and the challenges and trauma adoptees and adoptive parents face. Not many people specializ…
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Talking Therapy Ep. 34 Hypnosis and Alfred Adler with Dr. David Godot
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1:22:24Dr. David Godot joins us to talk about the use of hypnosis and hypnotic practices in therapy. He also talks about his experience at the Adler Institute as well as Alfred Adler and his unique ideas about the formation of personality and how people see themselves. Find David Godot here: https://psychlab.us This episode is exclusively sponsored by Ben…
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Talking Therapy Ep 33 Sara Schulting-Kranz on Finding Personal Transformation in Nature
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1:12:43Sara Schulting-Kranz joins us to talk about her transformation from married mother of three, who one day discovered “my husband is gay,” to life coach helping and leading people on journeys of their own transformation in the Grand Canyon and in the Sierras. Sara talks about the power of nature to heal and the amazing life changes she and her client…
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Talking Therapy Ep. 32 Ben Caldwell Returns on Divorce Rates and Emotional Support Animals
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1:13:49Dr. Ben Caldwell returns to the show to pick a bone with John about a statistic he quoted during our popular Sue Johnson interview. Ben discusses divorce and marriage and its current state in our society. We also touch on the ever emotional subject of Emotional Support Animals and how or if therapists should support their use.…
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Talking Therapy Ep 31 Sex and Food with Dr. Nazanin Moali
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1:16:13Dr. Nazanin Moali, a licensed psychologist from Torrance, CA joins us to discuss two of her specialties, eating disorders in men and sex therapy. Dr. Moali host of the podcast, Sexology, brings a unique perspective to her work that she shares with John and RJ. This episode is sponsored by Ben Caldwell Labs at BenCaldwelllabs.com, creating a more em…
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Talking Therapy Ep. 30 Therapist Court Prep with Nicol Stolar-Peterson, LCSW, BCD
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1:15:04There’s a knock on your door and a man hands you an envelope. You’ve been served a subpoena - now what? Nicol Stolar-Peterson, LCSW, BCD joins us to talk about getting therapists ready for court. She discusses her experience testifying and tells why she actually likes going to court. She also talks about the pitfalls most therapists fall into. This…
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Talking Therapy Ep. 29 Hold Me Tight, Let Me Go with Drs. Paul and Nancy Aikin
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1:26:39Drs. Paul and Nancy Aikin join us to talk about their workshop for parents and teens called “Hold Me Tight, Let Me Go”. Based on Dr. Sue Johnson’s Hold Me Tight workshop, and adapted for parents and teens, this group approaches parents and teens from an attachment standpoint and helps them connect and hear each other in ways many of them never imag…
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Talking Therapy Ep. 28 Dr. Jeffrey Zeig on the Evolution of Psychotherapy and Milton H. Erickson
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1:04:42As founder and CEO of the Milton H. Erickson Foundation Dr. Jeffrey Zeig has gathered together some of the greatest minds and most dominant personalities in the history of psychotherapy. The foundation’s Evolution of Psychotherapy conference is perhaps the largest gathering of its kind anywhere in the world. Bringing together dynamic speakers and c…
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Talking Therapy Ep. 27 Steve Lawrence MD on Psychotropic Blindness
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1:10:23Dr. Steven Lawrence joins us to discuss what happens when doctors are more focused on medication than on the actual patient. Taking a very patient-centered approach Dr. Lawrence talks about what he calls “Psychotropic Blindness” and what happens when psychiatrists see the side effects of certain medications in children and adolescents as emerging p…
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Talking Therapy Ep. 26 Dr. Susan Johnson on Emotionally Focused Therapy
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1:21:49Dr. Susan Johnson joins us to talk about her pioneering work in Emotionally Focused Therapy. EFT is a way to practice couples counseling that is overwhelmingly supported by scientific research. Dr. Johnson talks about attachment theory as the basis for EFT but also talks about some of the other frameworks she has drawn from. She talks not only abou…
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Talking Therapy Ep. 25 Divorce Mediation with Barry Davis
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1:02:03How do you keep a family together even as it’s coming apart? How do you help protect children from the trauma of a nasty divorce? Divorce mediator Barry Davis sits down with us to talk about an alternative to expensive, divisive and often traumatic litigated divorces. His approach is one that allows families to often make the best of what can be a …
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Talking Therapy Ep. 24 The Human Emotional System with Adrian Hall, MFT
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1:05:11Human emotions are a tricky thing. Some of us are good with them, some of us are not, but few of us really understand them fully. Adrian Hall, MFT joins us to talk about what she calls, the Human Emotional System. As we grow up, she tells us, we learn about math, science, history and our biological systems, but no one teaches us about our emotions …
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Talking Therapy Ep. 23 Self Communion with Jason Gipstein, MFT
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1:08:47Jason Gipstein, MFT sits down with us to talk about writing a book on what he calls self communion. Jason talks about how he developed this method of psychotherapy and how it can help people. Not only does he discuss it’s application to issues like anxiety and depression he also talks about how it can be used to help people move forward and continu…
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Talking Therapy Ep. 22 A Very Special Update with John and RJ
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35:59John and RJ sit down to discuss the status of the show and how they've really just been kind of lazy about the whole thing... well, maybe not entirely. This is actually a fun conversation about not only the status of the show but about what's it's like dealing with personal stress and working as a psychotherapist.…
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Talking Therapy Ep. 21 Saving Psychotherapy with Dr. Benjamin Caldwell
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1:13:07We know therapy works, but as it turns out fewer people are using it. What are the reasons for this and can an individual therapist make a living in this otherwise rewarding field? Is it possible to turn things around? Dr. Benjamin Caldwell sits down with us to talk about his book “Saving Psychotherapy.” He has a plan and some straightforward advic…
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Talking Therapy Ep. 20 Collaborating With a Psychiatrist with Dr. Amir Ettekal, MD
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1:16:29Dr. Ettekal joins us to talk about collaborating with therapists and some of the things he worries about when working with patients. He also talks about his approach to medication and psychotherapy.
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Talking Therapy Ep. 19 Sports and Performance Psychology with Dr. Jacob Insler.mp3
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1:06:14Dr. Jacob Insler joins us to talk about sports and perfomance psychology. Dr. Inlser works with athletes to help them perform better or to overcome obstacles in their game.
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Talking Therapy Ep 18 Self-Injury and Family Systems with Angela Kahn, MFT
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1:34:50Cutting can be one of the most challenging things any therapist deals with. Angela Kahn, MFT sits down with us to talk about her unique team-based approach to family therapy when treating self-injury. She discusses the two primary kinds of self-injury, how to distinguish between them and how she and her team approach assessment, conceptualization a…
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John and RJ discuss what scares us and why we love Halloween so much.
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Talking Therapy Ep. 16 Body Psychotherapy with Dr. Marjorie Rand, MFT
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1:04:26Dr. Marjorie Rand, MFT joins us to talk about her work using body psychotherapy. She also touches on her 40-year career and her experiences learning from and working with some of the great names in the field.
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Talking Therapy Ep. 15 NARM with Dr. Nadine Macaluso, LMFT
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1:00:39Nadine Macaluso, LMFT, PhD joins us to talk about her practice using the NeuroAffective Relational Model (NARM) to work with clients. She also touches on what lead to her to becoming a therapist and what it’s like to have a part of her life portrayed in a Hollywood movie.
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Talking Therapy Ep. 14 Military Sexual Trauma with Dr. Kristen Zaleski, LCSW
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56:58Kristen Zaleski, PhD, LCSW joins us to talk about working with survivors of military sexual trauma. Dr. Zaleski is a therapist in private practice, researcher and professor.
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