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Process Before Headcount: Why Growing Sales Teams Too Fast Kills Growth - EP 95 🇬🇧 | Classics with Benedikt Meuthen

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As we navigate today's capital-efficient growth environment, this conversation from August 2023 is more relevant than ever. Back then, I spoke with Benedikt Meuthen (former VP of Sales at deskbird), who scaled his sales team from 0 to 15 reps in just one year – and made the same mistake countless founders and sales leaders STILL make today.

What to expect:

  • Why data collection is significantly more important than most sales leaders realize, and how to get your team to embrace it
  • The critical mistake of scaling headcount before perfecting your sales process with a smaller team
  • A counterintuitive approach to sales enablement that starts everyone at the same level regardless of prior experience
  • How people management in a remote environment takes up to 30% of a sales leader's time—far more than most anticipate

My highlights:

  • Ben's candid admission about how ego drove his desire to build a massive team before the processes were ready
  • His practical approach to lost deal analysis using a combination of dropdown menus and free text fields in HubSpot
  • The real-world example of how proper data collection directly influenced product roadmap decisions and increased win rates
  • His refreshing honesty about falling into the same traps he once criticized his former leaders for creating

About the guest:

Benedikt Meuthen is a sales leader who faced the challenge of rapidly scaling a B2B sales team in a remote environment. With prior experience at companies like Showpad and Asana, he brought valuable lessons to his role, but still discovered new insights while building his team. His willingness to openly share successes and missteps provides a valuable learning opportunity for other sales leaders facing similar growth challenges.

Who should definitely listen to this episode:

  • Sales leaders preparing to scale their teams beyond 5-10 people
  • Founders who are transitioning from founder-led sales to building a sales organization
  • RevOps professionals looking to implement effective data collection processes
  • Anyone managing remote sales teams across different locations and time zones

The success formula? Build a solid data foundation from the start, perfect your sales process with a small team before scaling headcount, implement consistent enablement regardless of experience levels, and allocate significantly more time for people management than you think you'll need.

Editor's note: This episode was originally published on August 14, 2023. However, its lessons about scaling without proper processes are even more relevant today as companies face pressure to be more capital-efficient while maintaining growth.

Editor's call to action: Who should I invite to my podcast show next? 🤔

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  2. ENG: https://amzn.to/4g2Ly49

His homepage: www.rowing8.com
💃🕺 Looking for beta testers: his brand new software: funkybont.com

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As we navigate today's capital-efficient growth environment, this conversation from August 2023 is more relevant than ever. Back then, I spoke with Benedikt Meuthen (former VP of Sales at deskbird), who scaled his sales team from 0 to 15 reps in just one year – and made the same mistake countless founders and sales leaders STILL make today.

What to expect:

  • Why data collection is significantly more important than most sales leaders realize, and how to get your team to embrace it
  • The critical mistake of scaling headcount before perfecting your sales process with a smaller team
  • A counterintuitive approach to sales enablement that starts everyone at the same level regardless of prior experience
  • How people management in a remote environment takes up to 30% of a sales leader's time—far more than most anticipate

My highlights:

  • Ben's candid admission about how ego drove his desire to build a massive team before the processes were ready
  • His practical approach to lost deal analysis using a combination of dropdown menus and free text fields in HubSpot
  • The real-world example of how proper data collection directly influenced product roadmap decisions and increased win rates
  • His refreshing honesty about falling into the same traps he once criticized his former leaders for creating

About the guest:

Benedikt Meuthen is a sales leader who faced the challenge of rapidly scaling a B2B sales team in a remote environment. With prior experience at companies like Showpad and Asana, he brought valuable lessons to his role, but still discovered new insights while building his team. His willingness to openly share successes and missteps provides a valuable learning opportunity for other sales leaders facing similar growth challenges.

Who should definitely listen to this episode:

  • Sales leaders preparing to scale their teams beyond 5-10 people
  • Founders who are transitioning from founder-led sales to building a sales organization
  • RevOps professionals looking to implement effective data collection processes
  • Anyone managing remote sales teams across different locations and time zones

The success formula? Build a solid data foundation from the start, perfect your sales process with a small team before scaling headcount, implement consistent enablement regardless of experience levels, and allocate significantly more time for people management than you think you'll need.

Editor's note: This episode was originally published on August 14, 2023. However, its lessons about scaling without proper processes are even more relevant today as companies face pressure to be more capital-efficient while maintaining growth.

Editor's call to action: Who should I invite to my podcast show next? 🤔

Song by StockTune

- - -
Follow Björn on Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/bjoernwschaefer
Order his GTM bestselling book Funky Flywheels 🕺💃

  1. GER: https://amzn.to/3Sgi8qk
  2. ENG: https://amzn.to/4g2Ly49

His homepage: www.rowing8.com
💃🕺 Looking for beta testers: his brand new software: funkybont.com

  continue reading

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