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In Part Two of this illuminating conversation, Dr. Supatra Tovar continues her deep dive with addiction and trauma specialist Dr. Kenneth Skale to explore the psychology of food addiction, emotional regulation, and behavioral recovery. Together, they unpack how modern food systems, emotional dysregulation, and unresolved attachment wounds drive addictive patterns with food, substances, and even habits like gaming or social media.

Dr. Skale explains how food addiction mirrors substance addiction—not because of hunger, but because the brain’s reward and seeking systems are hijacked by stress, loneliness, and highly processed foods engineered for “craveability.” He and Dr. Tovar discuss how hyper-palatable combinations of sugar, fat, and salt overstimulate dopamine pathways, rewiring the brain toward compulsive consumption. Unlike natural foods, these lab-designed products create an emotional dependency—similar to the way substances like alcohol or nicotine alter mood and regulation.

Listeners learn the difference between binge eating disorder and food addiction—how bingeing involves episodic overeating, while food addiction reflects a chronic emotional reliance on food to regulate distress. Dr. Tovar shares real-world clinical examples of how clients use food to soothe attachment anxiety or to fill emotional voids, noting that the addiction is rarely about hunger, but about unmet psychological needs.

The discussion moves into harm reduction strategies, such as replacing processed “trigger” foods with mindful alternatives and creating replacement rituals that maintain comfort without self-destruction. Dr. Tovar’s “kettle chip” approach—choosing a higher-quality version of a triggering food in a mindful setting—illustrates how recovery can happen through compassion, not deprivation. Dr. Skale reinforces that shame only deepens addiction, emphasizing that “the best disinfectant for shame is sunlight.”

From there, they explore the role of loved ones in supporting recovery. Partners and family members often fall into control dynamics that backfire. Dr. Skale explains how expressing genuine concern through feelings—“It scares me when you drink” instead of “You drink too much”—builds connection instead of defensiveness. Dr. Tovar adds that body-shaming or weight-based comments worsen food addiction, while empathy and emotional curiosity foster healing.

This episode concludes with practical guidance for anyone questioning their relationship with food or substances. Dr. Skale outlines early steps toward change—sharing openly, seeking therapy, and exploring support groups such as SMART Recovery, Refuge Recovery, or Overeaters Anonymous. Together, Dr. Tovar and Dr. Skale remind listeners that recovery begins when we illuminate shame, build internal safety, and reconnect with our bodies as allies rather than enemies.

Would you like to know more about Dr. Kenneth Skale? Here are his social media channels : https://pasadenahealing.com/kennethskale,

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