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unDUBBED

Fiona Crocker & Sarah Burnett | co-founders, dub dub data

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Unscripted. Uncensored. Undeniably data! The podcast where data dreams get real! We're breaking down the secrets of data brilliance, diving into the messy & magical moments of data life, from AI to simple reporting, sales and data careers. Nothings off the table! Join us for stories, insights & a few laughs with innovators from around the world. If you're ready to unmask the data game, this one’s for you!
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That's Debateable

Aaron Donaldson, Ph.D.

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Each episode of That's Debateable examines a popular debate with featured guests and audience emails. Hosted by Aaron Donaldson, and produced by Matthew Campbell, Dub Campbell, and Katherine Donaldson.
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SlatorPod

Slator

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SlatorPod is the weekly language industry podcast where we discuss the most important news and trends in translation, localization, interpreting, and language AI. Brought to you by Slator.com.
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Music Talk is a Podcast by Grahame Farmer, Data Transmission. Grahame loads this podcast with tips for DJs and also motivation. The podcast will also feature music industry interviews with artists, label owners, promoters and music industry heads. Now in season 3, we've cover loads of topics from Spotify, Getting music signed to labels, and motivation. I've spoken to lawyers, promoters and record label owners all whilst trying to bring the inner workings of the music industry. Finally, I've ...
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Amir Haramaty, Co-Founder and President of aiOla, joins SlatorPod to talk about how spoken, multilingual data can transform enterprise workflows and unlock real ROI. The Co-Founder introduces himself not as a serial entrepreneur but as a serial problem solver, focused on one core challenge: most enterprise data remains uncaptured, unstructured, and…
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Tom Kocmi, Researcher at Cohere, and Alon Lavie, Distinguished Career Professor at Carnegie Mellon University, join Florian and Slator language AI Research Analyst, Maria Stasimioti, on SlatorPod to talk about the state-of-the-art in AI translation and what the latest WMT25 results reveal about progress and remaining challenges. Tom outlines how th…
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Summary In this episode of Undubbed, Fiona and Sarah explore Tableau Next, a revolutionary analytics platform from Salesforce. They discuss its new features, including a complete redesign of the analytics experience, the introduction of agentic analytics, and the importance of a human-centered approach to technology. The conversation delves into th…
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Nikita Agarwal, Founder of Milestone Localization, joins SlatorPod to talk about her journey founding a language solutions integrator (LSI) and launching Cavya.ai, a platform designed to streamline translation project preparation. Nikita began Milestone Localization in 2020 after discovering the language industry while working in international sale…
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Thordur Arnason, Global AI GTM Lead at Capgemini Invent, joins SlatorPod to talk about how the consulting giant is embracing language AI through BabelSpeak, its new real-time AI speech translation platform. Thordur explains that the idea emerged from Capgemini’s AI Futures Lab while researching multimodal AI. Inspired by Meta’s launch of the Seamle…
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In this special anniversary episode of unDUBBED, Fiona and Sarah celebrate one year of running their data consultancy, Dub Dub Data. They pull back the curtain on the real journey of entrepreneurship - from perfectionism and self-doubt to building a trusted partnership and managing clients with confidence. The conversation dives deep into business …
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Summary In this episode of unDUBBED, hosts Fiona and Sarah engage with Dr. Genevieve Hayes, a data scientist and entrepreneur, to discuss the evolving landscape of careers in data science. They explore the shift from traditional career paths to strategic career loops, emphasizing the importance of creating value beyond mere technical skills. Genevi…
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Florian and Esther discuss the language industry news of the week, with congratulations to Villam Language Services on its sale to InAnyLanguage. Slator served as joint exclusive advisor with Maveria Advisory, representing Villam throughout the end-to-end M&A process. The duo turns to Perplexity’s Localization Manager job posting, which they found …
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Tom Bridges, CEO and Founder of CaptionHub, joins SlatorPod to talk about how a small in-house tool evolved into a global AI-powered multimedia localization platform. Tom began his career in post-production and visual effects before stumbling into subtitling when a client needed to localize a video into 16 languages overnight. He reveals that the d…
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Summary In this episode of unDUBBED, the tables are turned! Matthew Miller - Vice President of Product Management at Salesforce and long-time champion of the Tableau community - takes over as guest host to interview Sarah Burnett and Fiona Crocker, the co-founders of Dub Dub Data. Together, they explore their entrepreneurial roots, early business l…
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Florian and Esther discuss the language industry news of the week, with breaking news that DeepL is reportedly exploring an initial public offering (IPO) in the US at a potential USD 5bn valuation. This comes as DeepL now positions itself as a “global AI product and research company”. Florian also notes the launch of DeepL Marketplace and the appoi…
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TL;DR: Migrating from Tableau Server to Tableau Cloud is complex, risky, and costly when done manually. TabMove automates up to 90% of migration tasks - cutting timelines, reducing errors, and lowering costs. With Dub Dub Data and Biztory, organisations in Australia, New Zealand, and Singapore gain a proven three-step migration model, local experti…
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Slator’s Senior Research Analyst Alex Edwards joins Esther and Florian on the pod to discuss ElevenLabs’ move from a pure-play language technology platform (LTP) to becoming a language solutions integrator (LSI) by adding a managed service offering. He outlines that the LSI will now offer managed services such as dubbing, transcription, and subtitl…
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Florian and Esther discuss the language industry news of the past few weeks, beginning with a recap of SlatorCon Silicon Valley 2025, where the duo noted strong localization buyer and user turnout, and tech-focused discussions across presentations and panels. One key highlight was Cohere’s well-timed launch of Command A Translate, which allowed Kel…
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Dipak Patel, CEO of GLOBO, joins SlatorPod to talk about his journey into language services and the challenges and opportunities of integrating AI into healthcare communication. Dipak explains that his career began in consulting and private equity, but a personal experience with his mother’s healthcare highlighted the importance of interpretation s…
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Summary In this thought-provoking episode of unDUBBED, hosts Fiona Crocker and Sarah Burnett sit down with Dr. Mark Powell - psychologist, bestselling author of The Mind Beyond the Machine, global keynote speaker, and Head of Private Cloud Data Delivery at Standard Chartered Bank - to explore the powerful intersection of AI, psychology, human behav…
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Gayatri Shahane, Founder and CEO of early-stage startup Naitiv, joins SlatorPod to talk about her entrepreneurial journey and building a conversational AI tool for business communication. Gayatri describes how Naitiv’s conversational AI agent is built as a desktop app to manage latency and audio challenges in live interpretation. She explains that …
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Rick Woyde, Co-Founder of Pairaphrase, joins SlatorPod to talk about his entrepreneurial journey co-founding a language technology platform (LTP) focused on simplicity and accessibility. Rick describes identifying early adoption of Google Translate among businesses and spotting a gap for a platform that served both non-technical users and professio…
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In this episode of unDUBBED, hosts Sarah Burnett and Fi Crocker sit down with Brian Tancock, Partner at Neurodiverse You, for a powerful and eye-opening conversation about neurodiversity in the workplace. Brian shares his personal journey from international banking across London, Singapore, and Hong Kong to becoming a leading neurodiversity advocat…
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Slator’s Head of Research Anna Wyndham joins Florian on the pod to discuss Microsoft’s research paper “Working with AI: Measuring the Occupational Implications of Generative AI”, a study that stirred significant debate across social media. The paper, based on 200,000 anonymized Microsoft Copilot interactions, aims to understand what tasks people as…
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In this episode of unDUBBED, hosts Sarah and Fiona sit down with Dr Selena Fisk, author of I Am Not a Numbers Person, to unpack the widespread issue of data anxiety and the growing need for data literacy and data fluency in today’s data-saturated world. Together, they explore how societal beliefs around numbers and maths anxiety can undermine data-…
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In this episode of unDUBBED, Darragh Murray, a Senior Analytics and Insight Specialist, explores the integration of AI with data visualisation tools like Tableau. The discussion centres on Model Context Protocol (MCP), which allows users to query Tableau Cloud data using natural language using Claude, and demonstrate its capabilities through a live…
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Martina Russo, CEO of The Action Sports Translator (TAST), joins SlatorPod to talk about her journey from being a multilingual outdoor sports enthusiast to leading a language solutions integrator dedicated exclusively to action and outdoor sports. Martina describes how each action sport has unique subcultures and terminology, from mountain biking’s…
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Florian and Esther discuss the language industry news of the week, including the newly released Slator 2025 Language AI 50 Under 50, showcasing fifty of the most innovative and fast-growing language AI startups founded within the past fifty months. The duo explain how Slator sifted through hundreds of companies, assessing innovation, practical solu…
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In this episode of Data unDUBBED, Sarah and Fiona engage with Matthew Miller, Senior Director of Product Management at Tableau, discussing the intersection of storytelling and data. Matthew shares his journey into the data world, the importance of storytelling in product management, and how it has influenced his career. The conversation also touche…
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Florian and Esther catch up on a few weeks’ worth of language industry news with a surge of developments in speech translation. Apple’s on-device translation debuts in apps like iMessage and FaceTime, and OpenAI enhances ChatGPT‘s Advanced Voice Mode with more human-like interactions and real-time translation. Florian unpacks YouTube’s broad rollou…
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Davit Baghdasaryan, Co-Founder & CEO of Krisp, joins SlatorPod to talk about the platform’s journey from a noise cancellation tool to a comprehensive voice productivity solution. Originally built to eliminate background noise during calls, Krisp has expanded into real-time accent conversion, speech translation, agent assistance, and note-taking — t…
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In this episode of unDUBBED, hosts Fiona Gordon and Sarah Burnett explore the Consultant's Toolkit for the Modern Analyst with data experts Chris Love and Carl Allchin. They discuss their journeys into consulting, the evolution of data visualization tools like Tableau, the impact of AI on data roles, and the importance of asking the right questions…
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Stefaan van der Jeught, Professor of EU Constitutional Law at Vrije Universiteit Brussel, and a Press Officer at the Court of Justice of the European Union, joins SlatorPod to talk about the complex relationship between language and law in the EU. Stefaan outlines the historical evolution of EU language policy, from French-only founding treaties to…
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Tom Elias Hanna, COO of Hanna Interpreting Services (Hanna), joins SlatorPod to talk about how a family-run interpreting initiative grew into a national language solutions integrator (LSI). Tom explained that the company was born out of necessity during an influx of Arabic-speaking refugees in San Diego, with his mother providing interpretation and…
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In this episode of unDUBBED, hosts Sarah and Fiona engage with data experts Eva Murray and Andy Kriebel to explore how to future-proof a data career. They discuss the importance of continuous learning, the impact of AI on data roles, and the necessity of investing in people within organizations. The conversation also touches on the significance of …
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Florian and Esther welcome Slator’s Anna Wyndham and Alex Edwards to SlatorPod to explain the rationale behind the new industry framework introduced in the Slator 2025 Language Industry Market Report. Drawing from the flagship report and echoing the buzz of SlatorCon London, the team explains why the traditional labels, Language Service Providers (…
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In this episode of unDUBBED, hosts Fiona and Sarah engage with Kathryn McCrindle, an analytics consultant and Iron Viz finalist, to explore her journey into data visualization, the challenges of participating in Iron Viz, and the importance of community support. Kathryn shares insights on overcoming imposter syndrome, the design process for her das…
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In a SlatorPod first, four guests — Scott Cooper, CEO of Language Services Associates (LSA), Pablo Tercero, COO of LSA, Jerry Song, CEO of Lingolet, and Edward Varela, VP of Business Development at Lingolet — shared their insights into a newly forged partnership. Scott explained that the decision to partner instead of building an in-house AI soluti…
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Rong Yan, CTO of HeyGen, joins SlatorPod to recount the company’s transformation from a Metaverse-focused startup to leading the emerging field of AI video generation. Rong recounts HeyGen’s beginnings and the pivot to its current avatar model, which saw ARR go from zero to USD 1m within six months. Rong attributes HeyGen’s success to its emphasis …
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In this episode of unDUBBED, Sarah and Fi discuss the essential insights that non-data leaders should understand about data teams. They explore the evolving nature of data projects, the importance of clarity in dashboards, the misconception of dashboards as a comprehensive solution, the often invisible success of data teams, and the critical role o…
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Véronique Özkaya, Co-CEO of DATAmundi, returns to SlatorPod for round 2 to talk about the company’s strategic rebrand and how it is positioning itself as a key player in the data-for-AI space. Véronique details her journey to leading DATAmundi, formerly known as Summa Linguae, where she now drives a strategic shift from traditional language service…
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Florian and Esther discuss the language industry news of the week, with DeepL becoming the first third-party translation app users can set as default on the iPhone, a position gained by navigating Apple’s developer requirements that others like Google Translate have yet to meet. Florian and Esther examine RWS’s mid-year trading update, which trigge…
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In this episode of unDUBBED, Fi and Sarah unpack their highlights from Tableau Conference 2025. Broadcasting from opposite sides of the Tasman, they dive into everything from the keynote announcements and Devs on Stage innovations to the emotion-charged Iron Viz showdown. Along the way, they reflect on the state of the Tableau community, the shift …
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John Worne, CEO of the Chartered Institute of Linguists (CIOL), joins SlatorPod to discuss CIOL’s mission to support and promote language professionals and the value of languages for the public good through professional standards, advocacy, and intercultural understanding. John highlights the challenges of applying AI in high-stakes contexts like c…
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In this episode of unDUBBED, Sarah Burnett and Fi Gordon explore the growing trend of fractional consulting, particularly in the data space. They discuss the challenges of traditional hiring models in the fast-paced business environment, the unique benefits of fractional leadership, and what makes a great fractional consultant. The conversation emp…
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Luke Innes, CEO of Creative Translation, joins SlatorPod to discuss how the global transcreation agency puts “human at the heart of the process” of multilingual branding by combining creativity, cultural insight, and strategic use of AI. Luke recounts his unconventional entry into the language services industry, charting a path from his roots in de…
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In this episode of unDUBBED, hosts Fi and Sarah engage with Andy Cotgreave, a prominent figure in data storytelling and the senior Data Evangelist at Tableau. The conversation explores the nuances of data visualisation, the significance of storytelling in data, and the challenges faced in the field. Andy shares insights from his career, including h…
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Florian and Esther discuss the language industry news of the week, breaking down Slator’s 2025 Language Service Provider Index (LSPI), which features nearly 300 LSPs and reports 6.6% combined growth in 2024 revenues, totaling USD 8.4bn. Florian touches on a surprise USD 10m donation from private equity executive Mario Giannini to launch a new MA tr…
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Joe Corkery, MD, CEO and Co-Founder of Jaide Health, joins SlatorPod to discuss how Jaide Health is driving medical interpreting and translation with AI, bridging communication gaps for limited English proficiency (LEP) patients and improving healthcare accessibility. With a background in computer science, medicine, and AI product leadership at Goo…
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In this episode of Undubbed, hosts Fiona Gordon and Sarah Burnett introduce their new podcast series, Viz Glow Ups, where they explore the transformation of poorly designed data visualisations into more effective and aesthetically pleasing versions. They discuss the importance of Glow Ups in enhancing clarity, trust, and user adoption, and share th…
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Anna Albinsson, CEO of Gridly, joins SlatorPod to talk about the company’s evolution into a content operations platform, its expansion beyond gaming, and the increasing role of AI in localization. Anna discusses Gridly’s transition from a niche CMS for gaming companies into a comprehensive content operations platform. Initially built by game develo…
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In response to President Trump’s executive order designating English as the official language of the US, SlatorPod gathered Dipak Patel, CEO of GLOBO, and Peter Argondizzo, CEO of Argo Translation, to discuss its implications for the US language industry. The discussion highlighted that language access has long been a key part of US policy, particu…
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Peter Reynolds, CEO of memoQ, joins SlatoPod to talk about the impact of AI on translation technology and how memoQ is enhancing its tools to meet the changing needs of enterprises, LSPs, and translators. Discussing AI, Peter recounts memoQ's response to the rise of generative AI, leading to the launch of memoQ AGT (Adaptive Generative Translation)…
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In this episode of unDUBBED, Fi and Sarah explore the essential elements that contribute to great data visualizations. They discuss the importance of clarity, understanding audience needs, and the role of design consistency. The conversation delves into the significance of accessibility, typography, and the effective use of Big As Numbers (BANs). T…
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