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Dave Gerhardt (Founder of Exit Five, former CMO) and guests help you grow your career in B2B marketing. Episodes include conversations with CMOs, marketing leaders, and subject matter experts across all aspects of modern B2B marketing: planning, strategy, operations, ABM, demand gen., product marketing, brand, content, social media, and more. Join 5,000+ members in our private community at exitfive.com.
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In this podcast, Finn Thormeier, Founder of Project 33, shares the best Founder-Led Marketing strategies & playbooks from CEOs & Founders. Prior guests include Jason Fried, Henry Schuck, Megan Bowen, Guillaume Moubeche, Josh Braun, Todd Busler, Peter Caputa, Chris Walker, Greg Head, Adam Robinson, Gal Aga, Alina Vandenbergh, Alec Paul, Melissa Kwan and many more. Key Topics: Demand Gen, SaaS Growth, B2B Marketing, B2B Content, Linkedin, Personal Branding, Founder Branding.
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Why do certain brands and creators become your favorite while others are forgotten? Why do they seem to effortlessly garner so much more attention than everyone else? Turns out, it’s not the tactics. They’re using the same tools and doing the same things as the rest of us. So, what’s the difference? Since 2015, Louder Than Words has hosted the world’s most prolific marketers and creators to explore how they cut through the noise to build unforgettable brands. Hosted by John Bonini.
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Friends with Benefits

Sam and Jason Yarborough

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Welcome to Friends with Benefits, the business podcast about revenue-generating partnerships. Not "business time" with friends. This podcast is for those looking to build professional relationships that last and add tremendous value to your company and maybe even, you personally. Join hosts Jason and Sam Yarborough, who happen to be married, as they talk with some of the best in the industry. We will be tackling topics like what good partnerships looks like, how relationships can build immen ...
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95% Content

Erik Jacobson from Hatch

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95% Content is a show for B2B content teams who want to build trust with the 95% of buyers who are out-of-market today, but will be ready to buy in the future. You can call it many different things: content marketing, demand creation, brand marketing, dark social, or zero-click content. No matter what you call it, the goal is the same. You want to reach future buyers on the social and content platforms they hang out on every single day, and in a way that compels them to want to work with you ...
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Live The Questions

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This show is an attempt to document how some people court challenges with persistence. It’s about how their struggles have led them where they are, and how they think about life, and work, and the world around them. There are no hacks. No tactics. Just lives. And their itches. Interests and obsessions. Questions and discoveries. It’s an effort to provide a window on to our own struggles, and hence, trigger an inquiry towards a more meaningful life.
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Build gives you the inside track on all things product and product management. Host Maggie Crowley, former Olympian turned Harvard MBA turned Director of Product Management at Drift, sits down with the best of the best across product management, design, and engineering to bring you lessons from product greats at Atlassian, Pluralsight, VMware, and more.
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#242: Content Strategy | In this episode, Danielle sits down with Brendan Hufford, founder of Growth Sprints, to talk about what actually works in content and SEO today and why most B2B strategies are broken. Brendan went from high school teacher to leading content at top SaaS companies, and now helps brands move faster and build content strategies…
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Send us a text Join Jason and Sam on the Friends with Benefits podcast as they chat with Robin Dreeke, a former FBI counterintelligence expert. Robin shares his unique insights on building trust and relationships, drawing from his 21 years of experience in the FBI. He talks about the importance of understanding others' challenges and priorities, an…
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#241: Email Strategy | Email isn’t dead – it’s just changing fast. It’s still one of the few B2B marketing channels where you can actually own your audience and reach your ideal customers with the push of a button. In this session from the Ultimate Roast of B2B Emails, Danielle hosts Beth O’Malley (Founder, astral.), Jay Schwedelson (Founder, Subje…
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#240: Video Strategy | In this episode, Danielle sits down with Connor Lewis, founder of Studio Lewis, to talk all things B2B video - what works, what doesn’t, and how to actually get started. Connor spent years building in-house video from the ground up before going solo. Now, he works with B2B brands on high-performing video ads and he’s here to …
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In the debut episode of Words in Progress, a mini-series within Louder Than Words, John Bonini sits down with Natalie Marcotullio, Head of Growth & Product Marketing at Navattic, to unpack how she and her team transformed a vague idea—buyer first—into a tangible, ownable editorial narrative and content framework. They walk through the evolution of …
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#239: Measurement | In this Exit Five live session, Dave sits down with Pranav Piyush, Co-Founder & CEO of Paramark (ex-PayPal, Dropbox, Adobe, BILL), to talk about the future of B2B marketing measurement. Spoiler alert: it’s not clicks. They break down why the old way of doing attribution doesn’t cut it anymore and why leading B2B teams are shifti…
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Garrett Mehrguth is the founder and CEO of Directive, one of the largest B2B SaaS marketing agencies in the world. In 2013, he started the company with Fiverr gigs. Today, it’s generating over $25M in revenue and working with brands like ZoomInfo, Wiz, and Stack Overflow. In this episode, Garrett breaks down how they generated $15M in revenue using…
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#238: Brand | In this episode, Dave sits down with Dmitry Shamis, former Head of Brand at HubSpot and now founder of Oh Snap, to talk about what brand really means in B2B and why so many teams are stuck doing busy work instead of meaningful marketing. After leading a team of 150+ creatives and scaling HubSpot’s brand across multiple products, Dmitr…
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Send us a text -Porizkova You can’t automate authenticity. You have to earn it. In this episode, we sit down with MK Getler-Porizkova, CMO at Loop & Tie, host of The Connected Brand podcast, and someone who talks about human connection like it’s their life’s calling (because it is). We dive deep into the idea that real leadership starts with self-a…
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#237: Strategy | Udi Ledergor (former CMO, now Chief Evangelist at Gong) helped turn Gong into one of B2B’s most iconic brands—and now he’s sharing how they scaled it to a multi-billion dollar valuation. In this episode, Dave sits down with Udi to unpack lessons from building Gong’s category, brand, and marketing engine (and why B2B marketing needs…
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Darren McKee is the founder of Darren McKee Co., a social selling training business built on real relationships, no automation, and content that breaks every LinkedIn best practice. After years in software sales, Darren now teaches sales teams and entrepreneurs how to build community, drive revenue, and win with human-first outbound. Topics we cove…
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#236: Product Marketing | Product marketers are no strangers to change. Whether it’s navigating new responsibilities, proving impact to leadership, or balancing short-term wins with long-term strategy, the role is constantly evolving - and in 2025, that evolution is only accelerating. This Exit Five Live session is built to help you stay ahead. Dav…
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Send us a text In this episode, Jason and Sam dive into a playful game of quote recall from past episodes, sparking discussions on key partnership strategies. They explore the challenges of gaining board-level support, the importance of speaking the business language, and the pitfalls of spreading resources too thin across multiple partnerships. Th…
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#235: Strategy |In this episode, Matt sits down with Aditya Vempaty, VP of Marketing at MoEngage, to talk about a topic every marketing leader has wrestled with: reporting on the right metrics. Aditya has led marketing at companies like Nutanix, Amplitude, and Synthego - and he’s learned how to build dashboards and reporting frameworks that actuall…
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Jason Fan is the co-founder and CEO of Forma, a flexible employee benefits platform trusted by companies like Microsoft, Etsy, TripAdvisor, and New Balance. Since launching in 2017, Forma has scaled to over 200 employees and helped define an entirely new category—Lifestyle Spending Accounts (LSAs). In this episode, Jason breaks down how they landed…
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#234: Messaging | In this episode, Dave sits down with Emma Stratton, founder of Punchy, to break down what great B2B messaging actually looks like - and how to get it right. Emma has worked with hundreds of B2B tech companies to sharpen their positioning, eliminate vague copy, and train marketing teams to write with clarity and impact. They cover …
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Send us a text Ned Arick, a successful leader with multiple exits, shares his journey of personal transformation and redefining success. He discusses the challenges of climbing the corporate ladder while losing sight of what truly matters. In this conversation, we explore the importance of self-discovery, setting boundaries, and finding joy in both…
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In this episode of 95% Content, Erik Jacobson welcomes back Dave Gerhardt (Founder of Exit Five) to discuss timeless content and marketing principles that never change, even as technology and trends change. Here’s the topics and principles Erik and Dave discuss in this episode: Knowing your customer and audience better than anyone else Being able t…
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#233: Inside Exit Five | In this episode, Matt Carnevale (Head of Community at Exit Five) joins the team at Circle to break down how we’ve doubled Exit Five community membership and boosted engagement—all by treating Exit Five like a product. He shares our playbook: audience growth, engagement systems, how we use member feedback to shape what we bu…
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Michael Maximoff co-founded Belkins, a $15M/year appointment-setting agency that’s grown into one of the most efficient and well-run ops in the space. Alongside the agency, Michael also helped launch Folderly, a SaaS product born out of Belkins' internal needs. In this episode, Michael shares why retention is the real growth lever for agencies, how…
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#232: Sales | Dave sits down with Jen Allen-Knuth, founder of DemandJen. Jen shares her insights from her 15+ years in B2B Sales, from managing a quota to building great working relationships with marketing. Jen and Dave cover: Co-creating content with Marketing and Sales that drives better customer engagement and grows your pipeline How Jen succes…
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Send us a text In this episode, Jason and Sam welcome marketing legend Dave Gerhardt. Known for his industry-shifting marketing approach at Drift and now leading Exit 5, Dave shares his journey from CMO to community builder. He emphasizes the power of human connection in marketing, especially in an era dominated by AI. Dave discusses the importance…
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#230: Messaging | In this episode, Matt sits down with Talia Wolf, founder and CEO of GetUplift, to unpack what’s really wrong with most B2B websites – and how to fix it. After reviewing 100+ member-submitted sites from the Exit Five community, Talia shares what she sees over and over again: messaging that’s too focused on the product, poor design …
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Frank Sondors is the co-founder and CEO of Salesforge, a platform that blends AI agents and human sales teams to maximize pipeline generation. In just 12 months, Salesforge scaled from 0 to $3M ARR without a massive sales team. In this episode, Frank breaks down the biggest levers behind that rapid growth, why founder-led marketing was essential in…
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#229: Marketing Leadership | In this episode, Dave sits down with Megan Lueders (CMO at Sonatype), Ido Mart (CMO at Manychat), and Kimberly Storin (CMO at Zayo) for a live CMO panel discussion at Exit Five’s Austin marketing meetup. These marketing leaders share what’s working what’s not in B2B marketing today and how the role of the CMO is evolvin…
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Bethany Stachenfeld is the co-founder and CEO of Sendspark, a SaaS platform that helps businesses create personalized videos at scale using AI. Since launching in 2019, SendSpark has grown into a go-to tool for sales teams looking to increase engagement and efficiency in outreach. In this episode, Bethany shares how she’s leveraged founder-led mark…
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Send us a text Mara Gleason Olson shares her journey from witnessing a profound change in her father to becoming a leader in understanding human consciousness. She reveals how our thoughts shape our reality and how we can harness this to improve our lives. Through her work with Rebels for Peace, Mara empowers youth in Chicago to break free from lim…
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#228: LinkedIn Strategy | Anthony is one of the nine LinkedIn Certified Marketing Experts in North America. He’s also the Managing Director of Speedwork, a B2B LinkedIn Marketing Agency, and hosts the LinkedIn Ads Radio Podcast. He and Dave discuss LinkedIn Ad Creative & Consistent Branding Thought Leader Ads & Organic Reach Niche Audiences & Custo…
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Frank Grillo is a veteran B2B marketing leader. After his 30+ year career as a CMO in IT and Telecoms, he quit his job, moved to Italy and started his own distillery (talk about something cool!!!) In this episode, Frank shares how SaaS companies can avoid messaging pitfalls, and what it really takes to reach the right customers. He also breaks down…
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#227: Events | In this episode, Dave hosts a live Exit Five session with Zuddl and panelists Stephanie Christensen (Event Marketing Leader) and Kristina DeBrito (Director of Strategic Events at Iterable) to break down how B2B marketers should be thinking about events in 2025. From small VIP dinners to large customer conferences, events are making a…
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Ben Sharf is the co-founder and co-CEO of Platter, a profitability toolkit designed for Shopify brands. Before founding Platter, Ben worked at GoPuff, where he gained deep insights into e-commerce operations. In this episode, Ben shares his transition into entrepreneurship, the power of founder-led marketing, and the lessons he’s learned from consi…
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Send us a text What does it take to build a partner program from scratch and make it a competitive differentiator? In this episode, we sit down with Sean Kester, an early employee at SalesLoft who played a pivotal role in building their partner ecosystem from the ground up. Sean shares how he transitioned from sales development to product leadershi…
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#226: Messaging | In this episode, Dave sits down with Diane Wiredu, messaging expert and founder of Lion Words, a consultancy that helps B2B tech and SaaS companies achieve message-market fit so they can stand out, market more effectively, and sell more. Diane breaks down why most B2B messaging falls flat, how to fix it, and why messaging is more …
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Dave Gerhardt is the Founder of Exit Five and a marketing leader known for helping scale some of the fastest-growing B2B SaaS companies. With a background that includes key roles at Drift and Privy. In this episode, Dave shares his insights on building a powerful personal brand as a founder, the importance of differentiation in a crowded SaaS marke…
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#225: Q&A with Dave | In this episode, Dave joins Ross Hudgens on Content and Conversation: Organic Growth Insights from Siege Media to break down content strategy, brand building, and why organic marketing is the foundation of great B2B marketing. Dave shares his journey from marketing leader to building Exit Five and explains why community-driven…
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Mark Gilbert is the Co-Founder & CEO of Zocks, an AI meeting assistant designed specifically for financial advisors. Before founding Zox, Mark was the VP Of Product Management at Twilio, CTO at Hearsay Systems and General Manager at Microsoft. In this episode, Mark shares how he transitioned from corporate life to running his own startup, the chall…
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#224: Website Teardown | In this episode, Danielle (Head of Content at Exit Five) hosts a panel with top SEO and content marketing experts: Rita Cidre, Head of Academy at Semrush; Ross Simmonds, CEO at Foundation & Distribution.ai; and Tom Whatley, CEO of Grizzle. Together, they break down real B2B websites, exposing the biggest SEO mistakes and sh…
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Justin Rowe is the Founder of Impactable. Impactable is the #1 B2B LinkedIn agency where LinkedIn experts scale modern B2B startups with demand gen & retargeting frameworks. Justin's story ranges from the Restaurant Industry to launching a lead gen agency that was acquired to now running the #1 LinkedIn Ads Agency. We talk about the balance of Link…
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Send us a text Join us this July for the Arcadia Leadership Experience. Early Bird pricing through 2/28. Arcadialeadershipexperience.com Welcome back to Friends with Benefits! In this episode, we’re diving deep into the world of GTM (Go-to-Market) strategy, partnerships, and networking with our special guest, Stephen Oommen. Stephen is a powerhouse…
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In this episode, Dave sits down with Melton Littlepage, CMO at 1Password, to discuss how he’s transforming a well-known consumer brand into a B2B category leader in cybersecurity. With decades of experience in SaaS marketing, Melton shares insights on category creation, demand generation, and the intersection of brand and product marketing—and why …
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In this episode, I break down the viral product launch template for LinkedIn. I will talk about: - Strategic Use of Funding Announcements - The New PR Playbook for Founders - Leveraging Social Proof for Growth - Depth vs. Frequency in Content Creation - Iterating on Content Strategy for Better Engagement Perfect for: CEOs and founders of B2B SaaS c…
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#222: Website Teardown | Do your product pages actually tell potential customers what they need to know—or are they just a list of features they’ll ignore? In this session from the Ultimate Roast of B2B Websites, Madhav Bhandari, Head of Marketing at Storylane, joins Robert Kaminski, Co-Founder at Fletch PMM and Dan Murphy, COO at Exit Five to tear…
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Marty Kausas is the Co-Founder & CEO at Pylon. Pylon is a modern alternative to Zendesk, optimized for B2B. Marty's LinkedIn posts generated 1.2 million impressions, leading to 5.5x their revenue in 2024. We talk about the impact of Founder-Led Marketing on Pylon's revenue, how the tech landscape in San Francisco is changing, and many other topics …
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Send us a text How do you break into new markets, shorten sales cycles, and build trust with buyers before your first conversation? Partnerships. In this special episode, we're replaying Jason’s B2BMX talk, "The Partner Effect", where he breaks down how partnerships can drive warmer leads, faster sales cycles, bigger deals, and deeper customer trus…
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Episode #221: Strategy | In this episode, Matt Carnevale sits down with Drew Giovannoli, founder of Buried Wins, to dive deep into Win/Loss analysis and how product marketers can use it to drive better sales, positioning, and competitive strategy. Drew shares how he helps B2B companies turn customer insights into revenue-driving decisions, plus the…
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Matthew Carnevale, Head of Community at Exit Five, introduces AI Playbooks, a new on-demand training program packed with expert-led tutorials and ready-to-use templates designed to help you drive better results with AI. No fluff, no theory—just real playbooks from 15 B2B marketers showing exactly how they use AI for ICP research, personalization at…
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In this Episode, I break down the step-by-step direct response post framework to 10-100X your leads from LinkedIn. Topics that we will cover are: - Case Studies and Practical Tools - How to Write Good LinkedIn Hooks - The Importance of Resonance Over Engagement - Understanding Customer Priorities Through Research - How to Scale Content - Iterating …
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Episode #220: Website Teardown | In this session from the Ultimate Roast of B2B Websites, Dave Gerhardt teams up with Diane Wiredu, messaging strategist and founder of Lion Words, and Lee Reshef, Head of Product Marketing & Retention at Fiverr, to break down what makes a high-converting B2B homepage. They critique real B2B homepages, analyzing mess…
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Arthur Castillo is the Director of Content, Community & Partnerships at Aligned. Aligned is pioneering the new way that B2B revenue teams interact with customers in today's remote, digital era. After excelling as a top 3 sales rep at every company Arthur worked for, he decided to explore marketing and his obsession with the B2B buying journey. We t…
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