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Fixing the Disconnect Between Marketing and Sales with Talya Heller

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#246 Sales Alignment | Danielle welcomes Talya Heller, founder of Down to a T, a B2B consultancy helping marketers turn competitive positioning into high-impact sales assets. With experience in engineering, product management, and product marketing, Talya knows how to bridge the gap between what marketing builds and what sales actually uses.

Together they unpack:

  • Why most sales decks and battle cards go unused and what to build instead
  • How to enable your champion to sell internally with confidence
  • Simple frameworks for mapping competitive positioning that teams will actually use

Talya also breaks down how she researches, builds, and delivers assets that align sales, marketing, and product, all rooted in buyer empathy.

Timestamps

  • (00:00) - – Intro & Talya’s background
  • (02:48) - – From engineering to B2B marketing
  • (09:33) - – What is buyer enablement?
  • (11:48) - – Why deals stall after vendor selection
  • (14:03) - – The problem with sales decks
  • (16:33) - – Why battle cards don’t work
  • (18:48) - – Talya’s competitive positioning map
  • (25:23) - – Grouping competitors by approach
  • (27:53) - – Market maps for sales
  • (29:53) - – Where to get the best insights
  • (32:23) - – New formats for enablement
  • (34:38) - – Why context matters
  • (36:23) - – Empathy for your sales team
  • (38:08) - – Closing thoughts on empathy
  • (39:13) - – Where to find Talya online

Send guest pitches and ideas to [email protected]
Join the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletter
Check out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/
Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership

***

Today’s episode is brought to you by Walnut.

Why are we pouring all this effort into marketing just to push buyers to a “request a demo” or “contact sales” button?

Come on, today’s buyers don’t want to talk to sales right away. They want to explore your product themselves, see how it works, and understand its value before booking a meeting.

That’s where Walnut comes in.

Walnut empowers marketers and GTM teams to create interactive, self-guided product experiences in minutes. Embed these experiences on your site, in emails, or anywhere in your funnel to let buyers engage on their terms, from awareness to close and beyond.

That's the beauty of Walnut - you're getting a platform that your sales and CS colleagues can use to showcase the product too.

And the best part? You get real intent data—see which features prospects love, where they drop off, and what’s actually driving pipeline. Demo Qualified Leads are the new MQL.

Over 500 companies, like Adobe and NetApp, use Walnut to drive 2-3x higher website conversion rates and 7 figures in pipeline on a yearly basis. So do you want to drive more leads, shorten sales cycles, and actually show your product instead of hiding it behind another typical B2B CTA?

Go check out Walnut.io. And if you tell them Dave from Exit 5 sent you, they'll build out your first demo for free!

  continue reading

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#246 Sales Alignment | Danielle welcomes Talya Heller, founder of Down to a T, a B2B consultancy helping marketers turn competitive positioning into high-impact sales assets. With experience in engineering, product management, and product marketing, Talya knows how to bridge the gap between what marketing builds and what sales actually uses.

Together they unpack:

  • Why most sales decks and battle cards go unused and what to build instead
  • How to enable your champion to sell internally with confidence
  • Simple frameworks for mapping competitive positioning that teams will actually use

Talya also breaks down how she researches, builds, and delivers assets that align sales, marketing, and product, all rooted in buyer empathy.

Timestamps

  • (00:00) - – Intro & Talya’s background
  • (02:48) - – From engineering to B2B marketing
  • (09:33) - – What is buyer enablement?
  • (11:48) - – Why deals stall after vendor selection
  • (14:03) - – The problem with sales decks
  • (16:33) - – Why battle cards don’t work
  • (18:48) - – Talya’s competitive positioning map
  • (25:23) - – Grouping competitors by approach
  • (27:53) - – Market maps for sales
  • (29:53) - – Where to get the best insights
  • (32:23) - – New formats for enablement
  • (34:38) - – Why context matters
  • (36:23) - – Empathy for your sales team
  • (38:08) - – Closing thoughts on empathy
  • (39:13) - – Where to find Talya online

Send guest pitches and ideas to [email protected]
Join the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletter
Check out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/
Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership

***

Today’s episode is brought to you by Walnut.

Why are we pouring all this effort into marketing just to push buyers to a “request a demo” or “contact sales” button?

Come on, today’s buyers don’t want to talk to sales right away. They want to explore your product themselves, see how it works, and understand its value before booking a meeting.

That’s where Walnut comes in.

Walnut empowers marketers and GTM teams to create interactive, self-guided product experiences in minutes. Embed these experiences on your site, in emails, or anywhere in your funnel to let buyers engage on their terms, from awareness to close and beyond.

That's the beauty of Walnut - you're getting a platform that your sales and CS colleagues can use to showcase the product too.

And the best part? You get real intent data—see which features prospects love, where they drop off, and what’s actually driving pipeline. Demo Qualified Leads are the new MQL.

Over 500 companies, like Adobe and NetApp, use Walnut to drive 2-3x higher website conversion rates and 7 figures in pipeline on a yearly basis. So do you want to drive more leads, shorten sales cycles, and actually show your product instead of hiding it behind another typical B2B CTA?

Go check out Walnut.io. And if you tell them Dave from Exit 5 sent you, they'll build out your first demo for free!

  continue reading

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