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The Quiet Shift: How B2B Teams are Winning Post-SEO

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#242: Content Strategy | In this episode, Danielle sits down with Brendan Hufford, founder of Growth Sprints, to talk about what actually works in content and SEO today and why most B2B strategies are broken. Brendan went from high school teacher to leading content at top SaaS companies, and now helps brands move faster and build content strategies that drive real impact.

They cover:

  • Why most SEO strategies are broken - and why retainers make it worse
  • The content checklist that took ActiveCampaign from 200K to 240K visitors in 30 days
  • Why the most lucrative SEO opportunities are hiding in plain sight
  • Brendan’s "immortal newsletter" framework that cuts production time in half while doubling engagement

Plus, check out the checklist Brendan mentioned in this episode here!

Timestamps

  • (00:00) - – Intro to Brendan
  • (05:19) - – Lessons from teaching that apply directly to marketing
  • (08:19) - – Why Brendan left education and entered the B2B world
  • (09:49) - – Early agency and in-house marketing experience
  • (11:34) - – Building a defensible career: audience, trust, and network
  • (13:54) - – The Growth Sprints model: why retainers don’t make sense
  • (15:04) - – Content strategy in bets, not buckets
  • (16:19) - – Why SEO still works and where it actually drives results
  • (17:49) - – Getting deep on audience, product, and internal dynamics
  • (20:04) - – What marketers get wrong about internal buy-in
  • (22:04) - – Real example: what a content sprint looks like in practice
  • (23:34) - – The power of internal linking and content refreshes
  • (27:50) - – How Google views internal linking and user signals
  • (30:50) - – Why technical SEO is often overrated
  • (33:50) - – Brendan’s hot take: most SEOs aren’t marketers
  • (35:20) - – Why the “SEO takes 6 months” narrative is flawed
  • (37:20) - – The problem with traditional retainers and content brief models
  • (38:50) - – The immortal newsletter: how to mix evergreen + ephemeral content
  • (41:50) - – Naming the problem, not just the category
  • (43:20) - – Content should do 3–5 jobs at once: how to prioritize impact
  • (45:50) - – The real value of competitor and alternatives pages
  • (48:20) - – How to make content more useful for sales and buyer enablement
  • (49:50) - – Brendan’s final mindset shift: create content that earns its keep

Send guest pitches and ideas to [email protected]
Join the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletter
Check out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/
Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership

***

Today’s episode is brought to you by Zuddl.

We’re halfway through 2025, and one thing’s clear: events continue to be one of the highest performing marketing channels. Niche meetups, conferences, curated dinners, networking - you name it. Everyone’s leaning in.

Events are a core part of our playbook this year at Exit Five. So far, we’ve hosted two virtual sessions each month, one large virtual event, one in-person meetup, and we’re deep in the weeds planning our Drive conference coming back to Vermont this September.

Zuddl helps us run a smarter event strategy - from driving registrations, managing invites, automating comms, reminders, analytics, tracking. Their Salesforce integration also makes it simple to report on pipeline and revenue from events without pulling in ops.

On top of that, the differentiator with Zuddl is how their team is insanely good at supporting us. They always go above and beyond for us - and that’s how we’ve been able to keep the momentum going with 12+ events already this year, with plenty more to come.

If events are part of your marketing strategy, you need to look at Zuddl to see how companies like Zillow, CrowdStrike, and Iterable are using the top event platform for Business events in 2025.

Head over to zuddl.com/exitfive to learn more.

  continue reading

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#242: Content Strategy | In this episode, Danielle sits down with Brendan Hufford, founder of Growth Sprints, to talk about what actually works in content and SEO today and why most B2B strategies are broken. Brendan went from high school teacher to leading content at top SaaS companies, and now helps brands move faster and build content strategies that drive real impact.

They cover:

  • Why most SEO strategies are broken - and why retainers make it worse
  • The content checklist that took ActiveCampaign from 200K to 240K visitors in 30 days
  • Why the most lucrative SEO opportunities are hiding in plain sight
  • Brendan’s "immortal newsletter" framework that cuts production time in half while doubling engagement

Plus, check out the checklist Brendan mentioned in this episode here!

Timestamps

  • (00:00) - – Intro to Brendan
  • (05:19) - – Lessons from teaching that apply directly to marketing
  • (08:19) - – Why Brendan left education and entered the B2B world
  • (09:49) - – Early agency and in-house marketing experience
  • (11:34) - – Building a defensible career: audience, trust, and network
  • (13:54) - – The Growth Sprints model: why retainers don’t make sense
  • (15:04) - – Content strategy in bets, not buckets
  • (16:19) - – Why SEO still works and where it actually drives results
  • (17:49) - – Getting deep on audience, product, and internal dynamics
  • (20:04) - – What marketers get wrong about internal buy-in
  • (22:04) - – Real example: what a content sprint looks like in practice
  • (23:34) - – The power of internal linking and content refreshes
  • (27:50) - – How Google views internal linking and user signals
  • (30:50) - – Why technical SEO is often overrated
  • (33:50) - – Brendan’s hot take: most SEOs aren’t marketers
  • (35:20) - – Why the “SEO takes 6 months” narrative is flawed
  • (37:20) - – The problem with traditional retainers and content brief models
  • (38:50) - – The immortal newsletter: how to mix evergreen + ephemeral content
  • (41:50) - – Naming the problem, not just the category
  • (43:20) - – Content should do 3–5 jobs at once: how to prioritize impact
  • (45:50) - – The real value of competitor and alternatives pages
  • (48:20) - – How to make content more useful for sales and buyer enablement
  • (49:50) - – Brendan’s final mindset shift: create content that earns its keep

Send guest pitches and ideas to [email protected]
Join the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletter
Check out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/
Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership

***

Today’s episode is brought to you by Zuddl.

We’re halfway through 2025, and one thing’s clear: events continue to be one of the highest performing marketing channels. Niche meetups, conferences, curated dinners, networking - you name it. Everyone’s leaning in.

Events are a core part of our playbook this year at Exit Five. So far, we’ve hosted two virtual sessions each month, one large virtual event, one in-person meetup, and we’re deep in the weeds planning our Drive conference coming back to Vermont this September.

Zuddl helps us run a smarter event strategy - from driving registrations, managing invites, automating comms, reminders, analytics, tracking. Their Salesforce integration also makes it simple to report on pipeline and revenue from events without pulling in ops.

On top of that, the differentiator with Zuddl is how their team is insanely good at supporting us. They always go above and beyond for us - and that’s how we’ve been able to keep the momentum going with 12+ events already this year, with plenty more to come.

If events are part of your marketing strategy, you need to look at Zuddl to see how companies like Zillow, CrowdStrike, and Iterable are using the top event platform for Business events in 2025.

Head over to zuddl.com/exitfive to learn more.

  continue reading

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