Growth In Reverse is the must-listen podcast for anyone serious about growing an email list and turning a newsletter into a thriving business. Hosted by Chenell Basilio and Dylan Redekop, two leading voices in the newsletter space, this show pulls back the curtain on how today’s top newsletter operators actually grow and make money. Episodes include deep-dive teardowns of the strategies behind the most successful newsletters. You’ll hear how creators like Justin Welsh, Codie Sanchez, Sahil B ...
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David Sparks and Mike Schmitz are not nearly as productive as they’d like to be. Join these fellow travelers (and a bunch of special guests) as they share the best ways to get focused, and talk through their successes and failures along the way. Hosted by David Sparks and Mike Schmitz.
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On this podcast, Chris Savage, Wistia's CEO and loudest talker, turns up the volume on insightful conversations with other SaaS founders, tech. leaders, marketers, and creators about what it takes to build businesses, top-notch products, and unforgettable brands.
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Learn how to grow and monetize your newsletter! We interview the best newsletter operators, founders, and creators on how they grow their audiences and make money. Hosted by Matt McGarry and Ryan Carr.
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Adam Schaeuble is an online business coach for podcasters. He specializes in teaching online business owners how to leverage their podcast to get more clients. This show will deliver podcasting tips about how to launch, grow, and monetize a podcast. If you are looking for podcasting tips from a full time podcasting pro then you are in the right place. This podcast will provide valuable insights for entrepreneurs, solopreneurs, small business owners, content creators, online coaches, consulta ...
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577: The Podcast + Newsletter Strategy w/Chenell Basilio
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42:13Head on over to my main website: https://www.podcastingbusiness.school/ Step One: Watch the four minute video to find out WHO I help and HOW I help them. Step Two: Sign up for a Podcast Profit Potential Discovery Call to discuss the idea of working together. Step Three: Sign up for my FREE weekly newsletter. Every Thursday you will get FRESH conten…
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Million Dollar Webinars, How To Boost Live Show Up Rate, How To Launch a Course, and More
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48:02Matt and Ryan Carr discuss webinar marketing and sharing strategies for boosting sign-ups, keeping audiences engaged, and increasing show-up rates. They also cover lessons from building courses, leveraging lead magnets, and using AI meta-prompting to structure content effectively. Want more content like this? Join Newsletter Operator for more strat…
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Newsletter Coaching Session: Scaling Deep Dives Into a Newsletter Growth Engine
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42:30“$250k is when growth changes. It’s when you need systems. You usually can’t do it solo.” — Matt Gira, The Quarter Matt Gira joins Chenell & Dylan — in person — to share how he went from building underwater drones to launching The Quarter: a newsletter that deep dives into how founders grow bootstrapped businesses to $250K. This is an interview, bu…
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I'm Dyslexic, Yet I Built a $2M+ Per Year Writing Business (Here's How)
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9:23Matt shares his journey of building a successful writing business despite his dyslexia. He breaks down 12 actionable rules that helped him succeed. Want more content like this? Join Newsletter Operator for more strategies on how to grow and monetize your newsletter here: NewsletterOperator.com Episode Topics & Timestamps 00:00 Overcoming Dyslexia i…
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Write, Grow, Sell Success Stories: 13,500+ Subscribers Helping People Find Affordable Properties in Europe
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48:58Join the Write, Grow, Sell waitlist here >> Anastasia Negru is the cofounder of AffordiHome, a media brand focused on affordable properties in Europe. She discussed the growth of their newsletter, audience engagement strategies, revenue generation challenges, and the introduction of consultation services. The discussion highlights the importance of…
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Your Newsletter Is Too Easy to Join — Here’s Why That’s a Problem
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31:34“I love unsubscribes. Don’t be here if you don’t want to be here.” It is insanely easy to subscribe to a newsletter—and even MULTIPLE newsletters all at once. But is that a good thing? Should newsletter creators be more choosy when determining who signs up? We're diving into one of the most overlooked and under-discussed aspects of newsletter growt…
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233: I Wanna Be Me When I Grow Up, with Kara Monroe
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50:22Kara Monroe joins us to talk about creative problem solving, the power of coaching, and why you should have a Facts of Life book. This episode of Focused is sponsored by: Incogni: Take your personal data back with Incogni! Use code FOCUSED with this link and get 60% off an annual plan. Guest Starring: Kara Monroe Links and Show Notes: I Wanna Be Me…
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The Accessibility Revolution with Wistia’s Co-founder and CTO, Brendan Schwartz
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23:08Brendan Schwartz, Wistia’s Co-founder and CTO, joins Chris and Sylvie to break down the European Accessibility Act, share Wistia’s journey to making video truly accessible, and explain why inclusive design leads to better products for everyone. Links to Learn More: Follow Brendan on LinkedIn Follow Savage on LinkedIn Subscribe to Talking Too Loud o…
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The Real ROI of Digital Accessibility with Wistia's Co-founder and CTO, Brendan Schwartz
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23:08Brendan Schwartz, Wistia’s Co-founder and CTO, joins Chris and Sylvie to break down the European Accessibility Act, share Wistia’s journey to making video truly accessible, and explain why inclusive design leads to better products for everyone. Links to Learn More: Follow Brendan on LinkedIn Follow Savage on LinkedIn Subscribe to Talking Too Loud o…
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I Made $120k+ With a Google Doc, 1000+ Subscribers In 19 Days For a New Newsletter, and More
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40:10Matt and Ryan discuss various strategies for building an audience, leveraging AI in marketing, and innovative sales techniques. They share insights on content creation, the importance of copywriting, and the effectiveness of using Google Docs for marketing. They also highlight the value of building a media brand and the tools to help entrepreneurs …
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576: Summer podcast content and monetization tips.
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24:32Head on over to my main website: https://www.podcastingbusiness.school/ Step One: Watch the four minute video to find out WHO I help and HOW I help them. Step Two: Sign up for a Podcast Profit Potential Discovery Call to discuss the idea of working together. Step Three: Sign up for my FREE weekly newsletter. Every Thursday you will get FRESH conten…
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Jordan DiPietro is the former CEO of Hampton, a community business that's scaled to over $10M in annual revenue. Episode Topics & Timestamps 00:00 Introduction to Hampton and Community Business Models 03:07 Marketing Strategies for Community Growth 05:56 Sales Process and Lead Conversion Techniques 09:12 Content Marketing and Lead Generation 12:09 …
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9 Big Takeaways For Creators From Craft + Commerce 2025
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46:40“The real value wasn’t in the keynotes—it was the dinners, the hikes, the casual connections.” – Dylan Redekop, first-time C+C attendee Dylan and Chenell reflect on their time at Kit's Craft + Commerce email newsletter conference for creators in Boise. But this episode isn’t just a recap — it’s a deep dive into what made the conference unforgettabl…
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575: Podcast Content Strategy & Growth Tips (Live Coaching)
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1:04:54In the first segment of this live coaching episode I do a Podcast Audit of the Moving Tips & Tricks podcast. Topics discussed: Expert positioning. Simplified content strategy. My simple newsletter funnel. At minute 34:00 segment two starts with Certified Podcast Growth Coach Leah Bryant doing a podcast growth audit. *************** Links mentioned …
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0 to 834 Subscribers In 15 Days: How I'm Building a New Newsletter From Scratch
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39:55Matt and Ryan discuss Ryan's recent venture into creating a newsletter focused on AI-assisted marketing workflows. He shares how he grew his AI-focused marketing newsletter from 0 to ~900 subscribers in 15 days using LinkedIn. The discussion covers effective content marketing tactics, the importance of high-quality lead magnets, and lessons learned…
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From Tweets to 70k: How Jesse "Accidentally" Built a Newsletter of 70k Subscribers
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47:31"Every time I try to be an expert, I lose readers. When I’m just me, they stick around." – Jesse J. Anderson, Extra Focus newsletter For the first time ever, Chenell & Dylan have recorded LIVE, in-person podcast episodes! Coming at you in-person from Kit Studios in Boise ID, Chenell & Dylan connect with Jesse J. Anderson—better known online as ADHD…
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232: Useful Not True, with Derek Sivers
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1:16:50Derek Sivers joins us to talk about personal agency, idea ownership, saying no, and (of course) journaling. This episode of Focused is sponsored by: Incogni: Take your personal data back with Incogni! Use code FOCUSED with this link and get 60% off an annual plan. Indeed: Join more than 3.5 million businesses worldwide using Indeed to hire great ta…
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Marketing (But Make It Science) with Nancy Harhut
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54:46Behavioral science expert Nancy Harhut joins Chris Savage to reveal the subconscious shortcuts driving customer decisions, why autonomy and reciprocity fuel engagement, and how teams can use brain science ethically for unforgettable marketing wins. Links to Learn More: Follow Nancy Harhut on LinkedIn Follow Savage on LinkedIn Subscribe to Talking T…
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The Ultimate Guide To Your First 1000 Email Subscribers
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38:40Matt shares a step-by-step guide to launching a newsletter and landing your first 1,000 subscribers. He breaks down niche selection, category design, the “job to be done” framework, and tactical strategies for idea validation, social media outreach, and subscriber growth. Want more content like this? Join Newsletter Operator for more strategies on …
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574: How to create simple offers that will convert podcast listeners into paying clients.
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22:54Links mentioned in this episode: Sign up for a FREE Podcast Profit Potential Discovery Call: https://www.podcastingbusiness.school/ Want more strategies for podcast launch, growth, and how to leverage your podcast to get more clients? Get my FREE weekly Podcasting Business School Newsletter every Thursday! https://www.podcastingbusiness.school/news…
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Organic Audience Growth is Getting Harder -- Here's What's Working Now
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50:26Matt and Ryan share strategies for growing on LinkedIn, converting engagement into email subscribers, and building long-term content engines. They also explore video content, email optimization, and rebranding the podcast. Want more content like this? Join Newsletter Operator for more strategies on how to grow and monetize your newsletter here: New…
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Talking Too Loud Mini: We're At the Wistia Offsite, Back Next Week
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4:01No full episode this week (we're at the Wistia offsite). But we wanted to say a quick hello, talk too loud about snorkeling, and Harry Potter, and let you know we'll be back to our regular programming next week. Follow Savage on LinkedIn Subscribe to Talking Too Loud on Wistia Watch on YouTube Follow Talking Too Loud on Instagram Follow Talking Too…
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Should your newsletter have a podcast? (Our take after 6 months of episodes)
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47:52"Podcasting isn’t a shortcut to growth—but it’s a hell of a way to deepen relationships." – Chenell Basilio What can happen when you commit to a weekly podcast for six straight months? You're about to find out. Chenell & Dylan pull back the curtain on the Growth In Reverse podcast—sharing the behind-the-scenes of what’s worked, what hasn’t, and wha…
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Chenell Basilio: How To Get Your First 50,000 Email Subscribers
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50:19Chenell Basilio is the founder of Growth in Reverse, a newsletter and podcast that reverse engineers how top creators grow their audiences to 50,000+ subscribers. Want more content like this? Join Newsletter Operator for more strategies on how to grow and monetize your newsletter here: NewsletterOperator.com Work with Ryan's agency Tailwind Work wi…
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573: Content Marketing Strategies for Podcasters with Joe Pulizzi
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43:26Links mentioned in this episode: Sign up for a FREE Podcast Profit Potential Discovery Call: https://www.podcastingbusiness.school/ Want more strategies for podcast launch, growth, and how to leverage your podcast to get more clients? Get my FREE weekly Podcasting Business School Newsletter every Thursday! https://www.podcastingbusiness.school/news…
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Creators Are Flocking to Substack—but Should You Join Them?
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39:21“You can pretty much do anything on Substack—which is good and also makes me nervous.” – Chenell Basilio We've seen a wave of creators flocking to Substack over the last month and couldn’t help but wonder... what’s really going on here? In this episode, Chenell & Dylan unpack the why we believe this migration is happening. Are creators just chasing…
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231: Overwhelm, AI, and Life's Balancing Acts
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1:07:44In this feedback episode, David & Mike tackle listener questions about their use of AI, reset rituals, quitting books, and a variety of other focus-related topics. This episode of Focused is sponsored by: Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code FOCUSED. TRMNL: Clarity, at a glance. Get $15 off for 1 week only…
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If you’re running a “newsletter business” the way most people do, you’re doomed to fail. To explain why and what to do now, I’ll break down the history of newsletters and why founders and publishers must pivot to what I call newsletters 3.0. Want help building a media brand? Get in touch here: GrowLetter.com…
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572: A simple strategy to increase revenue and get better client results.
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20:24In this episode I will teach you about how I'm using Office Hours to increase sales revenue and ramp up client results. Topics Discussed: -What are office hours exactly? -How I execute an Office Hours session. -How to add Office Hours into your sales and offer building strategies. *********** Join my 21 Day High Value Newsletter Bootcamp for Podcas…
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5 Content Business Ideas You Can Start This Weekend (With $0)
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33:33Matt and Ryan discuss newsletter-first business ideas—from niche media brands to local community stories—sharing insights on engagement, monetization, and building with purpose. Want more content like this? Join Newsletter Operator for more strategies on how to grow and monetize your newsletter here: NewsletterOperator.com Work with Ryan's agency T…
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30 Creators. 30 Days. 3,700+ Subscribers: How She Did It
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42:03"I thought this would grow my list. It did—but the real win was something else entirely." — Chenell Basilio on her 30 Days of Growth experiment. In this special episode of Growth In Reverse, Chenell & Dylan break down the whirlwind that was Chenell's 30 Days of Growth experiment. What started as a simple idea to improve my cross-promotions quickly …
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Why We're Hosting a Founders Retreat (Behind The Scenes Look at Audience Camp)
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24:01Apply to attend: Audience.Camp Matt and Ahrif give you a behind-the-scenes look into Audience Camp, a new event for founders and creators in Asheville, North Carolina, this fall.By Matt McGarry and Ryan Carr
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Marketing in 2025: What the End of Traffic Means for You with Rand Fishkin
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37:27What’s really happening in digital marketing today? On the latest episode of Talking Too Loud, Savage and Sylvie bring in Rand Fishkin—legendary strategist, founder of SparkToro, and indie game creator—for an unfiltered reality check. From the steep decline of web traffic and the end of easy SEO wins, to the explosive rise of AI-driven answers and …
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571: Newsletters, Offer Creation, and Solo episode strategies. (Live Coaching Episode)
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1:07:52In this episode I do two live coaching sessions. Session One: Newsletter strategies for podcasters. Session Two: (starting at 32:00) Offer creation , solo episode strategies, and podcast naming tips. Links mentioned in this episode: Sign up for a FREE Podcast Profit Potential Discovery Call: https://www.podcastingbusiness.school/ Want more strategi…
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The Little-Known Way Creators Are Building BILLION Dollar Businesses
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11:39Matt McGarry discusses the concept of Negative CAC—how smart companies turn marketing into profit. He shares real-world examples from media and SaaS, showing how digital products and media can fuel growth and long-term profitability. Learn more about negative CAC: https://www.newsletteroperator.com/p/negative-cac Want more content like this? Join N…
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Why Legacy Media Doesn't Understand Newsletters, The Best Type of Lead Magnet, and More
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47:17Matt and Ryan discuss the digital transformation challenges facing legacy media, from shifting to subscription models to embracing email marketing. They explore innovative newsletter growth tactics, AI’s role in democratizing software development, and evolving strategies for software acquisition. They also share how tools can serve as lead magnets,…
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How He Turned a Free Google Doc into $1.2M + 18,000 Newsletter Subscribers
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50:29Get 30 proven newsletter strategies to grow and optimize your email list FREE >> "There is a strong, undeniable correlation between the number of emails you send and the amount of money you make." — Olly Richards In this episode, Chenell & Dylan chat with Olly Richards — the founder of Storylearning.com and now a fast-growing personal brand — about…
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