You were told your body was broken. That your dreams would have to wait. That family life and freedom couldn’t exist in the same lifetime. You were wrong. The Shift 5 Podcast is where high-performing families break free from burnout, poor health, and over-scheduled chaos—and realign with the deeply connected life they were designed to live. Hosted by Chase Thornock, creator of The Shift 5 and cofounder of Tionatam, each episode features raw, powerful moments from inside the Tionatam dojo—whe ...
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"Beam Me Up!" Rewriting the Energy of Your Home From the Inside Out
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35:57In this episode of Tionatam, we use home and travel as a mirror for your inner world—and show how your body, house, and health are all speaking the same language. Chase and Carly unpack the “rule books” you inherited about how a home should look, feel, and function (hello, flat sheets, lighting battles, and antlers on the wall), and connect it to y…
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When Shift Hits The Fan: How Surrender Opens the Door to Creation
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9:27In this powerful coaching minisode, we explore what it really means to surrender while staying open to creation. When we try to control how a miracle arrives, we close ourselves off from infinite possibilities. But when we release the “how,” trust our body’s signals, and take the next aligned step, life expands in ways we couldn’t have imagined. Yo…
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Belief As Biology: Harnessing the Power of the Placebo Effect
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31:43In this episode of Tionatam, we connect the dots between belief, biology, and behavior. We unpack the placebo effect (and why throwing it out of studies made us miss its power), explore the “Magnificent Matrix” for moving insights from subconscious → conscious, and show how clearly naming what you want lets you direct your body’s chemistry toward h…
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When Shift Hits the Fan: How the Nervous System Hides (and Heals) Old Wounds
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12:49In this powerful minisode, we walk through a live coaching moment that reveals how anger often protects a much younger, hurting part of us. When old beliefs—like “I should always be able to help”—collide with present-day realities, they trigger deep emotional echoes from our past. Through this session, we explore how shame hides beneath anger, how …
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Stop Looking at the Rocks: Expanding Around Health
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38:38In this heartfelt minisode, you’ll hear real-life stories and learn more about how surrender, peace, and support can exist even in moments. From there, we dive into health as a continuum (from illness to ever-greater capability), revisit ITCs—Invitations to Contract—and show you how to create an inner healing environment no matter what’s happening …
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When Shift Hits the Fan: Home, Travel, and the Space Between
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10:19This week inside Tionatam, we opened up the floor for live coaching around travel, money, home (and more!) and the emotional undercurrents that come with both. What started as a conversation about vacation styles turned into a masterclass in emotional awareness, relationship synergy, and surrendering the how. When we stop trying to fix circumstance…
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In this episode of Tionatam, we revisit the Shift Sifter—a simple, soul-anchored tool to separate inherited rules and autopilot “shoulds” from what you actually want. We’ll apply it to travel, home, and overall lifestyle so you can make aligned choices that feel like you (not your Pinterest feed or in-law playbook). You’ll learn how to create a per…
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When Shift Hits the Fan: Knowing Your Next Right Step
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8:58In this When Shift Hits the Fan minisode, Chase walk a husband and father through a moment of real-life uncertainty — the kind that hits when you’re standing between who you’ve been and who you’re becoming. You’ll hear what it looks like to move from future worry into present peace, using the sensations of the body as the compass toward alignment. …
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Financial Health & The Five Levels of Creation
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33:12In this episode, we apply the Shift 5 lens to financial health. You’ll see how inherited money rules shape today’s choices, why invitations to contract often show up right before (and after) miracles, and how to move through the five levels of creation so your finances start serving your life—not the other way around. This is a practical roadmap fo…
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When Shift Hits the Fan: The Fear of Wanting Too Much
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8:36In this heart-centered minisode, Chase and Carly coach through a familiar crossroads—the moment when everything you want seems to be in conflict. Through gentle questioning and guided awareness, they help a guest move from confusion to calm clarity—anchored in the body, emotion, and trust. 💡 What You’ll Hear: How to sense your body to find what you…
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How Rules and ‘Shoulds’ Quietly Wreck Our Relationships
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29:26In this rich and relatable episode, Chase and Carly dive deep into one of the most universal parts of being human—relationships. From the way we load the dishwasher to the way we handle hurt, this conversation unpacks the invisible rules and shoulds that quietly run our homes, marriages, and friendships. If you’ve ever wondered why the smallest thi…
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When Shift Hits the Fan: The Fear That Keeps You From Healing
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9:47Sometimes the thing keeping us sick isn’t our body—it’s our fear. Fear of being wrong. Fear of trying again. Fear of what healing might actually ask of us. In this “When Shift Hits the Fan” session, Chase and Carly walk through a powerful real-time coaching moment with a woman who feels trapped in her health journey. Beneath her frustration lies so…
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ARM Your Health: Breath, Cold, Meditation + Real-World Nutrition for Autoimmune Recovery
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When Shift Hits the Fan: Navigating Illness, Overload & Asking for Help
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11:01Show Notes In this “When Shift Hits the Fan” minisode, we dive into one of the most common but least-talked-about triggers in family life: what happens inside of us when we get sick or our partner does—and everything suddenly feels heavier. You’ll hear a real-time coaching conversation about: 🌿 Shifting from shame to self-compassion when you’re unw…
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Breaking the (Money) Rules & Choosing Miracles
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24:23When most people think about improving their finances, they look for the how—budgeting tricks, investment strategies, or debt payoff plans. But in this episode of Tionatam, Chase and Carly reveal why the real blocks around wealth often have little to do with money at all. ✨ Inside this episode: Why finances, health, home, and relationships can’t be…
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When Shift Hits the Fan: Shrinking Dreams vs. Expanding Anyway
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7:21What do you do when your biggest dreams feel “irresponsible”? In this minisode, we dive into a raw coaching moment where fear, family expectations, and inherited “rulebooks” all push against the pull of a life that actually lights you up. This is the tug-of-war so many of us face: Do I cut my dreams down to size so they feel acceptable? Or do I exp…
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Autonomic Triggers, Autoimmunity, and the Path Back to Connection
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28:35Show Notes Welcome back to Tionatam! Today we’re unpacking the “why” behind autoimmune flare-ups through the lens of the autonomic nervous system—and how reconnection (to body, breath, and people) can change the trajectory. We’ll explore what pushes us into chronic fight-or-flight, why “adrenal fatigue” sets the stage for inflammatory cascades, and…
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When Shift Hits the Fan: Guilt, Rulebooks, and Other People’s Feelings
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6:30📍 In this minisode of When Shift Hits the Fan, we step into a coaching moment where guilt shows up in a surprising place: receiving something good. What happens when your body registers guilt, not joy, in the middle of luxury or abundance? Through guided body awareness and honest reflection, we uncover how guilt often acts as a protective shield—co…
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“The Trash, the Trust, and the Truth About Relationships”
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29:31This conversation dives into Step 5 of The Shift 5—Trim the Sails—applied to relationships. We rethink “trust” through the lens of radical self-ownership: you’re responsible for your emotions, they’re responsible for theirs. From marriages and money to parenting and daily chores (yes, even the trash), we explore how to set clean boundaries, release…
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When Shift Hits the Fan: Leading with Love When Rulebooks Collide
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8:16In this first When Shift Hits the Fan minisode, we step into a real coaching conversation with Pam, a volunteer leader in her church who oversees the children’s program. She’s wrestling with the tension between her vision of fun and love for the kids—and another leader whose serious, rigid style seems to be draining the joy out of the experience. I…
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From Impossible Dreams to Expansion: Redefining Travel, Home, and Desire
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6:17📝 Episode Show Notes: 📍 In this episode, Chase and Carly open up a conversation about travel, home, and the “optional” desires we often push to the side. Using real stories (like red-eye flights and dream vacations) as a springboard, they reveal how these discretionary desires are actually invitations into expansion—not indulgence. You’ll learn how…
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The Shift Sifter: How to Break Free from “Shoulds” and Create a Lifestyle That Lights You Up
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8:02📍 In this episode, Chase and Carly introduce the Shift Sifter—a simple but powerful tool to help you separate what you truly want from the “shoulds” you’ve inherited from family, culture, and programming. You’ll learn how to use words, phrases, and values that light you up as a compass for living the life you were actually meant to live. This is mo…
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Invitations to Contract: Breaking Free from Limiting Beliefs About Health and Healing
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9:49In this episode, we dive into what we call Invitations to Contract—the sneaky thoughts and beliefs that pull us away from healing, growth, and expansion in our health. Whether you’re facing chronic illness, supporting a loved one who is suffering, or simply pushing toward new health goals, these invitations show up everywhere along the spectrum. Yo…
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I Was Crawling to the Shower, Begging for a Miracle
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10:01📍 Welcome to the first episode of The Shift 5 Podcast. In this raw and foundational episode, host Chase Thornock shares the real story behind The Shift 5 and Tionatam—how a life-threatening autoimmune disease, a crumbling marriage, and the realization that no one was coming to save him cracked everything open and began the process of deep healing. …
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The Shift 5 Framework: How to Rewire Your Body, Break Old Cycles, and Create Miracles
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16:49📍 In this episode, Chase walks you through the full Shift 5 framework—a method designed to rewire the subconscious patterns that keep high-performing families stuck in cycles of burnout, illness, conflict, and hustle. You’ll learn how the body’s survival instinct can sabotage growth, how trauma creates default programming, and how healing starts by…
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Pain Is Part of the Process—So Choose Yours Wisely
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9:29📍 In this first live dojo session from inside Tionatam, Chase and Carly go deep on a foundational Shift 5 truth: You don’t get rid of pain. You just learn to choose the pain that aligns with what you actually want. Through real stories—from resigning a CEO role due to Crohn’s disease, to receiving a home they didn’t pay for, to facing a lifelong fe…
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Interdependence, Boundaries, and the Body That Finally Says No
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12:19📍 This week inside the Tionatam dojo, we explore one of the most life-changing concepts in both health and relationships: interdependence—and the boundaries that make it possible. From childhood codependence to adult burnout, Chase and Carly unpack how nervous system regulation, healthy separation, and spiritual responsibility shape everything from…
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Why You’re Exhausted in Relationships (and How to Stop Keeping Score)
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12:19📍 This week in the dojo, we’re diving into relationships—the real kind. Marriage, parenting, family, friendship, self, even God. But we’re not talking communication tips and date night tricks. We’re talking about the unspoken thoughts that slowly drain your energy, tighten your chest, and make you wonder why the people you love most are the ones yo…
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