You were told your body was broken. That your dreams would have to wait. That family life and freedom couldn’t exist in the same lifetime. You were wrong. The Shift 5 Podcast is where high-performing families break free from burnout, poor health, and over-scheduled chaos—and realign with the deeply connected life they were designed to live. Hosted by Chase Thornock, creator of The Shift 5 and cofounder of Tionatam, each episode features raw, powerful moments from inside the Tionatam dojo—whe ...
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Chase Thornock Podcasts

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When Shift Hits the Fan: Guilt, Rulebooks, and Other People’s Feelings
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6:30📍 In this minisode of When Shift Hits the Fan, we step into a coaching moment where guilt shows up in a surprising place: receiving something good. What happens when your body registers guilt, not joy, in the middle of luxury or abundance? Through guided body awareness and honest reflection, we uncover how guilt often acts as a protective shield—co…
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“The Trash, the Trust, and the Truth About Relationships”
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29:31This conversation dives into Step 5 of The Shift 5—Trim the Sails—applied to relationships. We rethink “trust” through the lens of radical self-ownership: you’re responsible for your emotions, they’re responsible for theirs. From marriages and money to parenting and daily chores (yes, even the trash), we explore how to set clean boundaries, release…
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When Shift Hits the Fan: Leading with Love When Rulebooks Collide
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8:16In this first When Shift Hits the Fan minisode, we step into a real coaching conversation with Pam, a volunteer leader in her church who oversees the children’s program. She’s wrestling with the tension between her vision of fun and love for the kids—and another leader whose serious, rigid style seems to be draining the joy out of the experience. I…
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From Impossible Dreams to Expansion: Redefining Travel, Home, and Desire
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6:17📝 Episode Show Notes: 📍 In this episode, Chase and Carly open up a conversation about travel, home, and the “optional” desires we often push to the side. Using real stories (like red-eye flights and dream vacations) as a springboard, they reveal how these discretionary desires are actually invitations into expansion—not indulgence. You’ll learn how…
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The Shift Sifter: How to Break Free from “Shoulds” and Create a Lifestyle That Lights You Up
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8:02📍 In this episode, Chase and Carly introduce the Shift Sifter—a simple but powerful tool to help you separate what you truly want from the “shoulds” you’ve inherited from family, culture, and programming. You’ll learn how to use words, phrases, and values that light you up as a compass for living the life you were actually meant to live. This is mo…
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Invitations to Contract: Breaking Free from Limiting Beliefs About Health and Healing
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9:49In this episode, we dive into what we call Invitations to Contract—the sneaky thoughts and beliefs that pull us away from healing, growth, and expansion in our health. Whether you’re facing chronic illness, supporting a loved one who is suffering, or simply pushing toward new health goals, these invitations show up everywhere along the spectrum. Yo…
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I Was Crawling to the Shower, Begging for a Miracle
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10:01📍 Welcome to the first episode of The Shift 5 Podcast. In this raw and foundational episode, host Chase Thornock shares the real story behind The Shift 5 and Tionatam—how a life-threatening autoimmune disease, a crumbling marriage, and the realization that no one was coming to save him cracked everything open and began the process of deep healing. …
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The Shift 5 Framework: How to Rewire Your Body, Break Old Cycles, and Create Miracles
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16:49📍 In this episode, Chase walks you through the full Shift 5 framework—a method designed to rewire the subconscious patterns that keep high-performing families stuck in cycles of burnout, illness, conflict, and hustle. You’ll learn how the body’s survival instinct can sabotage growth, how trauma creates default programming, and how healing starts by…
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Pain Is Part of the Process—So Choose Yours Wisely
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9:29📍 In this first live dojo session from inside Tionatam, Chase and Carly go deep on a foundational Shift 5 truth: You don’t get rid of pain. You just learn to choose the pain that aligns with what you actually want. Through real stories—from resigning a CEO role due to Crohn’s disease, to receiving a home they didn’t pay for, to facing a lifelong fe…
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Interdependence, Boundaries, and the Body That Finally Says No
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12:19📍 This week inside the Tionatam dojo, we explore one of the most life-changing concepts in both health and relationships: interdependence—and the boundaries that make it possible. From childhood codependence to adult burnout, Chase and Carly unpack how nervous system regulation, healthy separation, and spiritual responsibility shape everything from…
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Why You’re Exhausted in Relationships (and How to Stop Keeping Score)
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12:19📍 This week in the dojo, we’re diving into relationships—the real kind. Marriage, parenting, family, friendship, self, even God. But we’re not talking communication tips and date night tricks. We’re talking about the unspoken thoughts that slowly drain your energy, tighten your chest, and make you wonder why the people you love most are the ones yo…
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