Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wr ...
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Indeed Stranglehold Gets Tighter and Tighter
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53:37Buckle up, kids, the boys are comin' in hot this week. Personio just chopped headcount and abandonded its U.S. strategy. Chad sees defeat; Joel sees a standing ovation for the competition. The bloodbath is real. 📉 Indeed's dropping its new Connect offering. Chad calls it a "shakedown with jazz hands." Joel warns there's something darker going on. 💸…
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Shredded: Ridepanda, Planbase, Boostie, Scribe, LinkedIn, hireEZ, GigRadar, & More
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5 Must Have Agents for TA w/ David Weinstock
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47:00LIVE from the Recfest USA stage in Nashville! David Weinstock is a modern Talent Acquisition leader who actually unlocks value by fixing how companies hire, not just adding more process. As VP of Talent Acquisition at New Story, he leads talent strategy across 16 very different companies. Before that, he built and scaled TA at Hopebridge, one of th…
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In this episode, we ask if SAP + SmartRecruiters and/or Workday + Paradox can go FULL Amazon and collapse candidate friction into instant conversion, while LinkedIn and Indeed go to war over who actually owns the hiring assistant era. And Handshake? They’re pivoting into AI trainer labor like Mercor because the real money is in feeding the machines…
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Shredded: VeroSkills, ADP, Pequity, Personio, Waymo, Deel, Upwork & More
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High-volume recruiting is officially in its “everything is on fire” era. Applicant fraud is exploding. Screening is eating recruiter calendars alive. And scaling sourcing without torching your team? Good luck doing that manually in 2025 and beyond. So we’re bringing in the people who actually lived it… not analyst fantasy land. In this session — le…
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iCIMS Awakes, Amazon Axes, and Monster Shambles On
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55:20Another full serving of red meat on The Chad & Cheese Podcast. Joel unleashes the layoff bloodbath: Amazon axes 14K corporate jobs for automation, Target cuts 1.8K amid sales slumps, GM drops 3K+, Rivian 600, UPS a brutal 48K. Military.com? DOA via Valnet. Chad blames UPS pain on automation, ditching Amazon volume, and shrinking wallets; ties GM to…
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Shredded: AuditBoard, FairNow, Amazon, Mercor, Eightfold AI, Greenhouse Software, UKG, & More
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Supercharge Your Conversions w/ Shay Johnson
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36:37What happens when a global powerhouse doing 180,000 hires a year gets tired of lighting cash on fire? Gotta listen to find out. In this live RecFest session, the boys sit down with Shay Johnson, VP of Strategic HR Partnerships at Compass Group USA, who reveals how his team went from 2% conversion rates and duplicate job posts to building a hiring m…
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Facebook Jobs Rises While OpenAI Gets Dirty
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59:41This week's episode opens with a layoffs avalanche that could bury a small HR department. Nestlé slashes 16,000 jobs—mostly white-collar, as AI now crunches numbers faster than accountants can say “chocolate river.” Meta cuts 600 from its super-intelligence team (the irony writes itself), Paycom drops 500 engineers (guess the bots finally learned t…
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Shredded: Aragorn AI, Jack & Jill, Armstrong, Appcast, Micro1, Veritone, Casium & More
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In this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, hosts Joel Cheesman and Chad Sowash interview Barry Wolfe, a former Fortune 500 HR leader turned consultant and author of It’s All In Your Head: Why Psychology Doesn’t Help Your Employees Deliver Value – And What Can (2025). Wolfe critiques the "bullshit psychology industrial complex," comparing tools l…
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A Scotsman, two clowns and a whole bunch of TA professionals walk into a Chicken Cock speakeasy ... No, it's not a joke, it's Chad & Cheese recording live from their recent visit to Louisville, Kentucky for some of the finest bourbon around and a little industry chat with Dan Heverin, Talent Acquisition Manager at Humana and Jacqueline Carow, North…
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Shredded: GigRadar, Upsky, Humanly, Sprockets, Qualifi, HourWork, Facebook & More
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In this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, the boys interview Malcolm Frank, former president of Cognizant Digital and current CEO of Talent Genius, a platform focused on AI-driven talent acquisition. Frank, an Ohio native, discusses his extensive experience in technology and consulting, highlighting Cognizant's growth from 10,000 to over 300,00…
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This week, the gang dives into a grim economic landscape, tackling the week's bad news with their signature candor before scraping for some silver linings. The bad news hits hard: the U.S. government shutdown, now in its eighth day, is costing $7-15 billion weekly, furloughing 1.9 million workers and delaying critical jobs data, with ADP and Moody’…
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Shredded: Einride, Filament, Gullie, LinkedIn, Alex, Sage, Criterion HCM & More
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Juicebox Squirts, Waymo Leaks & Google Gushes
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57:07This week, the boys sling hot takes like baristas slinging lattes, diving into HR tech, AI, and corporate shenanigans with their signature wit. Kicking things off, they set the stage with a vibe check, chuckling over the wild ride of recruitment tech while side-eyeing the economic chaos of startups chasing venture capital like kids chasing ice crea…
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Shredded: Juicebox, Willo, Job&Talent, Orbio, Talentiqa, LinkedIn, DailyPay, & More
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The boys welcome Tiffany Anton, a sex therapist, to discuss the implications of workplace relationships, particularly in light of a recent affair involving a CEO and an HR employee at a Coldplay concert. Tiffany shares her insights on the dynamics of affairs, the power structures at play, and the societal shifts in understanding relationships. The …
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This week, hosts Chad and Joel, joined by career guru J.T. and Emi, sling snark and wisdom like a comedy roast for the recruiting world. They dive into The Muse’s shady “acquisition” drama, where a LinkedIn post from an engineering honcho claims a buyout, but with zero press release or website proof, it smells more like a corporate ghosting than a …
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Shredded: RefAssured, Dogwood Ventures, Appcast, Workfully, Shilling VC, & More
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Surprise! Work-Life Balance is Stressing You Out
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32:39Time management coach Elizabeth Grace Saunders discusses the complexities of flexible work schedules and their potential to lead to burnout. She emphasizes the importance of defining personal boundaries, understanding emotional drivers, and the need for effective communication in both professional and personal relationships. The conversation explor…
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Workday Shopping Spree & iCIMS' Panic Buy
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1:09:42Buckle up for The Chad & Cheese Podcast, where Joel Cheesman, Chad Sowash, and Maureen Clough dive into HR’s wildest waves with their signature no-filter banter! This episode tackles the HR tech consolidation frenzy: Workday’s $1.1B Sana acquisition, paired with recent Paradox and Flowise buys, signals a bold AI-driven strategy to streamline everyt…
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Shredded: DianaHR, Workday, Sana, Fiverr, Pack, and ZipRecruiter
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AI Won’t Save Recruiting with Matt Charney
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38:24AI isn’t fairy dust you sprinkle on your ATS latte—it’s duct tape on 20-year-old tech, sold to you with a shiny new buzzword. Enter Matt Charney, the HR-tech cynic who’s seen it all: Monster, SmartRecruiters, Employer.com, and enough bad vendor decks to wallpaper Vegas. In this episode, Charney calls BS on: Vendors selling “AI” that’s really just 2…
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OpenAI Takes Aim at Jobs : Indeed, LinkedIn Bring the Bots : BLS Chaos
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58:17In this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, with Chad Sowash sipping ouzo on a Greek beach, Joel Cheesman and guest J.T. O’Donnell dish out spicy takes on the workforce with their trademark snark. They kick off with a riff on empathy—or lack thereof—in today’s rage-fueled world, joking that community resilience is basically folks bonding over Wi-…
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Shredded: OpenAI, Throxy, Velocity Global, Shaker Recruitment Marketing, exaqueo, Remuner, & More
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Scale Your Suck: Sackett on AI and Talent
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31:56Tim Sackett is back, and he’s not here to sugarcoat your broken recruiting process. From running a family staffing biz (yes, his mom started it—nepotism FTW) to launching the HR Tech 100 Fund, Sackett’s got opinions, and Chad & Cheese are here to poke the bear. Inside this episode: Why most HR tech still runs on vaporware and broken promises The Sa…
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Google Wins, Meta Spins, and a Recruitics Fail?
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55:42From Google’s “flock of dead canaries” warning shot to Meta’s latest identity crisis, this episode is jam-packed with chaos. Recruitix buys a mystery box, Nestlé boots its CEO over an office fling, and Taco Bell AI goes full waterpark mode. Oh, and Chipotle drones are now dropping burritos from the sky. You can’t make this stuff up—so we didn’t.Cha…
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Shredded: InstaLILY, Welcome Tech, Darwin AI, Recruitics, Change State, Laborup, Hubert, & More
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AI in Hiring: Trust, Safety, and Why Compliance Freaks Out
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29:11What happens when you mix SmartRecruiters, a global AI pivot, and a comms pro who loves to “shake shit up”? You get Allyn Bailey dropping truth bombs on everything from why legacy ATS platforms should be left in a museum next to floppy disks, to how scheduling interviews is apparently the Mount Everest of HR tech problems. Joel and Chad dig into: W…
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Workday Buys Paradox | HR Tech’s Biggest AI Move Yet?
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51:53Strap on your helmets and tighten those chinstraps, Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman are celebrating their 1,500th episode with more swagger than a Cracker Barrel parking lot brawl. Expect: -Trump cosplaying as a mob boss at Intel and Cracker Barrel -Kelce + Swift rumors getting the “wink-wink” treatment -Fantasy football team names that would make yo…
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Shredded: Dayforce, Pintarnya, Folks, Glow Talents, ZipRecruiter, Workday, Paradox & More
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How Marriott Tackles AI, Complexity, and Fake Candidates
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21:49Marriott’s Tyler Weeks joins Chad & Cheese to unpack what it’s like running HR for a million humans (and possibly a few Roombas). Expect: Ritz-Carlton ghosting Joel harder than his prom date. Why Marriott’s HR is basically 9,000 mom-and-pop shops in a trench coat. The shocking discovery that AI doesn’t make great recruiters greater—it just stops th…
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Upwork’s €20M Bupty Bet, Denmark’s Deepfake Crackdown, and Europe’s 4-Day Work Week
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53:08Forget the Eiffel Tower, kids—we’re climbing the recruitment rollercoaster instead. Upwork’s shopping spree in Holland (Bupty? Buptie? Bupkis?), Denmark’s going full Face/Off to keep Nic Cage off Viggo’s jawline, and the UK is suddenly allergic to Fridays. Joel’s out dropping Cole at college, so Chad is joined by Belgium’s royal pain Lieven and Sco…
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🎧 This week on The Chad & Cheese Podcast: AI hiring lawsuits pile up faster than unread LinkedIn DMs Upwork tries on staffing’s Blockbuster costume Deel debuts creepy digital clones (no, not the cool Star Wars kind) And Joel cries in Bloomington while Chad rants about Tim Apple It’s HR tech, corporate drama, and just enough bad jokes to make you qu…
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Shredded: Visage, Rolebot, Workday, Upwork, Professional.me, Deel, & More
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Domino’s HR Tech Transformation with Matt King
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27:31Domino’s isn’t just delivering pizza in 30 minutes or less anymore—they’re trying to deliver candidates, too. In this episode, we sit down with Matt King, Director of HR Tech at Domino’s, to talk AI, ATS drama, and why franchisees always have “better ideas” than corporate. From killing off Kenexa (RIP, nobody misses you) to jumping into bed with Sm…
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It's the End of Entry Level Jobs as We Know It (and I Feel Fine) : Silicon Valley Gets Hard
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51:05Hold onto your headphones, folks, because the Chad and Cheese Podcast is serving up a hilarious, hot-mess buffet of insights that’ll leave you laughing and maybe a little worried about your career! This episode, your hosts sling snarky banter like baristas tossing espresso shots, breezing through early chit-chat about travel woes, Coldplay’s drama-…
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Shredded: ZipRecruiter, DHI Group, AgileATS, Kelly Services, Darwinbox, Upwork, Bubty & More
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Why Working in HR Sucks Right Now with Sarah Needleman
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28:25In this episode, the boys chat with Sarah Needleman, Business Insider’s Leadership and Workplace Correspondent, formerly of the Wall Street Journal for 23 years. Her article, “If You Think Your Job Is Hard Right Now, Try Working in HR,” dives into HR’s brutal post-2020 landscape: mass layoffs (like Microsoft’s 9,000 cuts) burden HR with soul-crushi…
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In this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, hosts Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman—HR tech's dynamic duo of snark and smarts—serve up a buffet of industry drama with their trademark banter that'll have you chuckling harder than a recruiter dodging ghosting complaints. They start by painting a gloomy economic picture, complete with workforce imbalanc…
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Shredded: Sparrow, Wingspan, Bullhorn, TargetRecruit, Tako, Workday, Recruit Holdings & More
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Bias: AI vs. Human - Mobley v. Workday is Just the Beginning
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31:12In this episode, the boys chat with Jeff Pole, the big brain behind Warden AI, for a no-holds-barred chat about AI bias in talent acquisition. They sliced and diced a juicy report comparing AI’s quirks to good ol’ human prejudice, serving up some spicy legal takes on what happens when robots play HR. The trio threw shade at sloppy AI systems, stres…
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On this week’s show: 🔌 Bold yanks the plug on Monster’s Euro-zone job boards faster than you can say “thoughtful transition.” Spoiler: if you had job credits, they’re as good as Monopoly money now. 🤡 Jamie & Doug send a painfully boring email instead of showing their faces. JT’s advice? Ditch the letter, pick up a camera, and maybe lose the flannel…
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Live from UNLEASH America 2025, we’re serving up serious talent strategy with Meghan Rhatigan, VP of Talent Acquisition Experience at Marriott—and spoiler alert: job boards are dying, chatbots are rising, and recruitment will never be the same. Inside this episode: 🤖 The rise (and limits) of chatbots 🔍 Why some candidates still prefer search over a…
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In this episode, hosts start off with, what else, soccer snark, discussing Chelsea's Trump drama, then a little Tour de France trash-talk. Chad roasts Monster Europe's collapse, blasting Randstad and Apollo as "corporate cowards" ditching workers like bad dates. They dissect HelloWork's lawsuit against Indeed for yanking ATS feeds—Chad calls it a d…
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On this week's episode, Moe comes out hot and spills on "Coldplay-Gate," that viral kiss-cam fiasco where a couple (turns out, cheating execs from Astronomer) bolted like they saw a ghost. It's not just gossip—it's schadenfreude gold, highlighting how the C-suite plays by different rules. Joel highlights ZipRececruiter's most recent marketing strat…
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