Growth In Reverse is the must-listen podcast for anyone serious about growing an email list and turning a newsletter into a thriving business. Hosted by Chenell Basilio and Dylan Redekop, two leading voices in the newsletter space, this show pulls back the curtain on how today’s top newsletter operators actually grow and make money. Episodes include deep-dive teardowns of the strategies behind the most successful newsletters. You’ll hear how creators like Justin Welsh, Codie Sanchez, Sahil B ...
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Chenell Basilio Podcasts
On this podcast, Chris Savage, Wistia's CEO and loudest talker, turns up the volume on insightful conversations with other SaaS founders, tech. leaders, marketers, and creators about what it takes to build businesses, top-notch products, and unforgettable brands.
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Podcasting Business School
This show will deliver podcasting tips about forming a successful business around your podcast as we focus on podcast monetization and podcast growth strategies. Whether you are looking to create a side hustle or replace your income and become a full time podcaster this show will help you get there!
Adam Schaeuble is an online business coach for podcasters. He specializes in teaching online business owners how to leverage their podcast to get more clients. This show will deliver podcasting tips about how to launch, grow, and monetize a podcast. If you are looking for podcasting tips from a full time podcasting pro then you are in the right place. This podcast will provide valuable insights for entrepreneurs, solopreneurs, small business owners, content creators, online coaches, consulta ...
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>> Join the 30-Days of Growth Social Challenge: https://growthinreverse.com/social -------------------------------------- “The first 6 months taught me that consistency beats everything — even if you’re not perfect." In this episode of the Growth In Reverse podcast, Dylan and Chenell rewind the clock to when Chenell was just starting her newsletter…
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583: Podcast growth & listener to client conversion tips. (Live Coaching)
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1:10:11This episode included TWO live podcast audit coaching sessions. The first segment is an Online Business Academy For Podcasters Hot Seat Session where we discuss strategies for selling your offers to your podcast listeners. The second segment starts at minute 35:45 and Coach Traciana does a podcast growth audit and dishes out some podcast growth str…
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5 Newsletter Growth Lessons From 2.5 Years of Publishing
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41:59“If you spend 80% of your time making incredibly good content, you probably only have to spend 20% marketing it." In this special episode, we’re bringing you Chenell’s conversation with Darrell Vesterfelt, VP of Growth at Mighty Networks, for a recent Creator Summit. In the chat, Chenell talks about why she started a newsletter — and why she chose …
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How to Align Marketing, Product, and Sales with Amplitude's CMO
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45:14AI is transforming marketing — making alignment between product, marketing, and sales more critical than ever. In this episode of Talking Too Loud, Amplitude CMO Tifenn Dano Kwan shares how she bridges team cultures, drives trust, and uses deadlines to turn the GTM tug-of-war into growth. Links to Learn More: Follow Tifenn Dano Kwan on LinkedIn Fol…
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582: How I maximize podcast guesting opportunities.
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32:44In this episode I dive into: Strategies for how to be a guest on podcasts. Strategies for how to optimize each podcast guesting opportunity. Links mentioned in this episode: Sign up for a FREE Podcast Profit Potential Discovery Call: https://www.podcastingbusiness.school/ Want more strategies for podcast launch, growth, and how to leverage your pod…
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How CJ Gustafson Grew Mostly Metrics to 60k+ Subscribers & Multi‑Six‑Figures in Revenue
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53:43The Growth Vault is LIVE: https://growthinreverse.com/vault ---------------------------------------------------------------- “During my last year as a CFO, I made more money from my newsletter and podcast than my full-time job." — CJ Gustafson, Mostly Metrics We sit down with CJ Gustafson, former tech CFO and now full-time creator of two newsletter…
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581: Why your online business needs a small bite offer. (Special Guest Amanda Walker)
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42:13Links mentioned in this episode: Sign up for a FREE Podcast Profit Potential Discovery Call: https://www.podcastingbusiness.school/ Want more strategies for podcast launch, growth, and how to leverage your podcast to get more clients? Get my FREE weekly Podcasting Business School Newsletter every Thursday! https://www.podcastingbusiness.school/news…
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Turning a Niche Newsletter of 30k Subs Into a Full-Time Business
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1:01:21The Growth Vault is LIVE: https://growthinreverse.com/vault ---------------------------------------------------------------- “You don’t need to create for everyone. You need to create for the people who value you most — and they’ll carry your newsletter further than you think." — Matt Johansen, Vulnu.com We sat down with Matt Johansen, creator of t…
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Building for Delight with Superhuman’s Rahul Vohra
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42:43What does it take to build a product people fall in love with? Superhuman founder Rahul Vohra joins Chris and Sylvie to talk about designing for delight, why speed still matters, and how AI fits into the future of joyful software. Plus: how the Grammarly acquisition opens a new chapter for Superhuman. Links to Learn More: Follow Rahul Vohra on Link…
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580: My online business evolution from having a consulting offer to a scalable group coaching offer.
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38:41Links mentioned in this episode: Sign up for a FREE Podcast Profit Potential Discovery Call: https://www.podcastingbusiness.school/ Start a 10 Day Free Trial inside of my Online Business Academy for Podcasters: https://www.podcastingbusiness.school/academy *********************
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How to Turn 1 Subscriber into 10: Get More Referrals With These Tactics
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36:28The Growth Vault is LIVE: https://growthinreverse.com/vault ---------------------------------------------------------------- “This is the underrated growth strategy every newsletter should be using.” What if every subscriber could turn into 10 more? In this episode of the Growth In Reverse podcast, Dylan and Chenell unpack one of the most underrate…
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579: Podcast Growth & Client Conversion Strategies. (Live Coaching)
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58:25The 2nd coaching segment starts at 26:40. Ready for some help? Head on over to my main website: https://www.podcastingbusiness.school/ Step One: Watch the four minute video to find out WHO I help and HOW I help them. Step Two: Sign up for a Podcast Profit Potential Discovery Call to discuss the idea of working together. Step Three: Sign up for my F…
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His Paid Newsletter Launch Drove $50k+ (and 500+ paid subs)
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48:38“I waited to launch my paid newsletter until I had a solid strategy and felt like I’d earned it.” — Tom Orbach, Marketing Ideas Tom Orbach of MarketingIdeas.com — which recently crossed 44,000 free subscribers and over 500 paid subscribers in just the first few days after launching his paid tier — joins Chenell & Dylan to share the exact playbook h…
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How Brands Can Win in the Age of AI Search with Josh Blyskal
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39:32On this episode of Talking Too Loud, Josh Blyskal, AI Strategist at Profound, joins Chris and Sylvie to break down Answer Engine Optimization (AEO), why writing niche blog content still matters, and how brands can get seen (and convert more leads) in an AI-first search world. Links to Learn More: Follow Josh Blyskal on LinkedIn Follow Savage on Lin…
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578: My Podcast to Newsletter to Social Media content flywheel strategy.
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21:50Head on over to my main website: https://www.podcastingbusiness.school/ Step One: Watch the four minute video to find out WHO I help and HOW I help them. Step Two: Sign up for a Podcast Profit Potential Discovery Call to discuss the idea of working together. Step Three: Sign up for my FREE weekly newsletter. Every Thursday you will get FRESH conten…
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Newsletter Coaching Session: Scaling Deep Dives Into a Newsletter Growth Engine
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42:30“$250k is when growth changes. It’s when you need systems. You usually can’t do it solo.” — Matt Gira, The Quarter Matt Gira joins Chenell & Dylan — in person — to share how he went from building underwater drones to launching The Quarter: a newsletter that deep dives into how founders grow bootstrapped businesses to $250K. This is an interview, bu…
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577: The Podcast + Newsletter Strategy w/Chenell Basilio
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42:13Head on over to my main website: https://www.podcastingbusiness.school/ Step One: Watch the four minute video to find out WHO I help and HOW I help them. Step Two: Sign up for a Podcast Profit Potential Discovery Call to discuss the idea of working together. Step Three: Sign up for my FREE weekly newsletter. Every Thursday you will get FRESH conten…
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Your Newsletter Is Too Easy to Join — Here’s Why That’s a Problem
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31:34“I love unsubscribes. Don’t be here if you don’t want to be here.” It is insanely easy to subscribe to a newsletter—and even MULTIPLE newsletters all at once. But is that a good thing? Should newsletter creators be more choosy when determining who signs up? We're diving into one of the most overlooked and under-discussed aspects of newsletter growt…
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The Real ROI of Digital Accessibility with Wistia's Co-founder and CTO, Brendan Schwartz
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23:08Brendan Schwartz, Wistia’s Co-founder and CTO, joins Chris and Sylvie to break down the European Accessibility Act, share Wistia’s journey to making video truly accessible, and explain why inclusive design leads to better products for everyone. Links to Learn More: Follow Brendan on LinkedIn Follow Savage on LinkedIn Subscribe to Talking Too Loud o…
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576: Summer podcast content and monetization tips.
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24:32Head on over to my main website: https://www.podcastingbusiness.school/ Step One: Watch the four minute video to find out WHO I help and HOW I help them. Step Two: Sign up for a Podcast Profit Potential Discovery Call to discuss the idea of working together. Step Three: Sign up for my FREE weekly newsletter. Every Thursday you will get FRESH conten…
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9 Big Takeaways For Creators From Craft + Commerce 2025
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46:40“The real value wasn’t in the keynotes—it was the dinners, the hikes, the casual connections.” – Dylan Redekop, first-time C+C attendee Dylan and Chenell reflect on their time at Kit's Craft + Commerce email newsletter conference for creators in Boise. But this episode isn’t just a recap — it’s a deep dive into what made the conference unforgettabl…
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575: Podcast Content Strategy & Growth Tips (Live Coaching)
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1:04:54In the first segment of this live coaching episode I do a Podcast Audit of the Moving Tips & Tricks podcast. Topics discussed: Expert positioning. Simplified content strategy. My simple newsletter funnel. At minute 34:00 segment two starts with Certified Podcast Growth Coach Leah Bryant doing a podcast growth audit. *************** Links mentioned …
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From Tweets to 70k: How Jesse "Accidentally" Built a Newsletter of 70k Subscribers
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47:31"Every time I try to be an expert, I lose readers. When I’m just me, they stick around." – Jesse J. Anderson, Extra Focus newsletter For the first time ever, Chenell & Dylan have recorded LIVE, in-person podcast episodes! Coming at you in-person from Kit Studios in Boise ID, Chenell & Dylan connect with Jesse J. Anderson—better known online as ADHD…
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Marketing (But Make It Science) with Nancy Harhut
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54:46Behavioral science expert Nancy Harhut joins Chris Savage to reveal the subconscious shortcuts driving customer decisions, why autonomy and reciprocity fuel engagement, and how teams can use brain science ethically for unforgettable marketing wins. Links to Learn More: Follow Nancy Harhut on LinkedIn Follow Savage on LinkedIn Subscribe to Talking T…
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574: How to create simple offers that will convert podcast listeners into paying clients.
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22:54Links mentioned in this episode: Sign up for a FREE Podcast Profit Potential Discovery Call: https://www.podcastingbusiness.school/ Want more strategies for podcast launch, growth, and how to leverage your podcast to get more clients? Get my FREE weekly Podcasting Business School Newsletter every Thursday! https://www.podcastingbusiness.school/news…
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Talking Too Loud Mini: We're At the Wistia Offsite, Back Next Week
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4:01No full episode this week (we're at the Wistia offsite). But we wanted to say a quick hello, talk too loud about snorkeling, and Harry Potter, and let you know we'll be back to our regular programming next week. Follow Savage on LinkedIn Subscribe to Talking Too Loud on Wistia Watch on YouTube Follow Talking Too Loud on Instagram Follow Talking Too…
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Should your newsletter have a podcast? (Our take after 6 months of episodes)
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47:52"Podcasting isn’t a shortcut to growth—but it’s a hell of a way to deepen relationships." – Chenell Basilio What can happen when you commit to a weekly podcast for six straight months? You're about to find out. Chenell & Dylan pull back the curtain on the Growth In Reverse podcast—sharing the behind-the-scenes of what’s worked, what hasn’t, and wha…
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573: Content Marketing Strategies for Podcasters with Joe Pulizzi
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43:26Links mentioned in this episode: Sign up for a FREE Podcast Profit Potential Discovery Call: https://www.podcastingbusiness.school/ Want more strategies for podcast launch, growth, and how to leverage your podcast to get more clients? Get my FREE weekly Podcasting Business School Newsletter every Thursday! https://www.podcastingbusiness.school/news…
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Creators Are Flocking to Substack—but Should You Join Them?
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39:21“You can pretty much do anything on Substack—which is good and also makes me nervous.” – Chenell Basilio We've seen a wave of creators flocking to Substack over the last month and couldn’t help but wonder... what’s really going on here? In this episode, Chenell & Dylan unpack the why we believe this migration is happening. Are creators just chasing…
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572: A simple strategy to increase revenue and get better client results.
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20:24In this episode I will teach you about how I'm using Office Hours to increase sales revenue and ramp up client results. Topics Discussed: -What are office hours exactly? -How I execute an Office Hours session. -How to add Office Hours into your sales and offer building strategies. *********** Join my 21 Day High Value Newsletter Bootcamp for Podcas…
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30 Creators. 30 Days. 3,700+ Subscribers: How She Did It
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42:03"I thought this would grow my list. It did—but the real win was something else entirely." — Chenell Basilio on her 30 Days of Growth experiment. In this special episode of Growth In Reverse, Chenell & Dylan break down the whirlwind that was Chenell's 30 Days of Growth experiment. What started as a simple idea to improve my cross-promotions quickly …
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Marketing in 2025: What the End of Traffic Means for You with Rand Fishkin
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37:27What’s really happening in digital marketing today? On the latest episode of Talking Too Loud, Savage and Sylvie bring in Rand Fishkin—legendary strategist, founder of SparkToro, and indie game creator—for an unfiltered reality check. From the steep decline of web traffic and the end of easy SEO wins, to the explosive rise of AI-driven answers and …
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571: Newsletters, Offer Creation, and Solo episode strategies. (Live Coaching Episode)
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1:07:52In this episode I do two live coaching sessions. Session One: Newsletter strategies for podcasters. Session Two: (starting at 32:00) Offer creation , solo episode strategies, and podcast naming tips. Links mentioned in this episode: Sign up for a FREE Podcast Profit Potential Discovery Call: https://www.podcastingbusiness.school/ Want more strategi…
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How He Turned a Free Google Doc into $1.2M + 18,000 Newsletter Subscribers
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50:29Get 30 proven newsletter strategies to grow and optimize your email list FREE >> "There is a strong, undeniable correlation between the number of emails you send and the amount of money you make." — Olly Richards In this episode, Chenell & Dylan chat with Olly Richards — the founder of Storylearning.com and now a fast-growing personal brand — about…
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570: Five Content Collaboration Strategies for Podcast Growth.
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48:36In this episode I deliver FIVE of my favorite (free) content collaboration strategies! If you want to learn about how to leverage other content creator's audiences then you will enjoy this one! Links mentioned in this episode: Sign up for a FREE Podcast Profit Potential Discovery Call: https://www.podcastingbusiness.school/ Want more strategies for…
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From Confusion to Clarity: How to Fix an Overwhelming Newsletter
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31:12Get 30 proven newsletter strategies to grow and optimize your email list FREE >> "Faceless brands are forgettable. Put your name on it. Make it human." In this episode, Dylan and Chenell are back for another Newsletter Roast! Get out your marshmallows 🔥 This week we're roasting a newsletter all about podcast discovery. The Find That Pod newsletter …
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Subscribing On Purpose: Creating Sticky Newsletters with Chenell Basilio
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40:07Can you really grow a successful newsletter with just 600 subscribers? Chenell Basilio, founder of Growth in Reverse, joins Talking Too Loud to bust list-size myths, unpack the secrets behind engaging content, and explain why passion and community beat flashy growth hacks every time. Links to Learn More: Follow Chenell Basilio on LinkedIn Follow Sa…
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569: Email Marketing Tips for Podcasters w/ Mike Millner
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42:50In this episode email marketing expert Mike Millner joins the show to talk about ways we can grow our email list and utilize it to make some money! Links mentioned in this episode: Sign up for a FREE Podcast Profit Potential Discovery Call: https://www.podcastingbusiness.school/ Want more strategies for podcast launch, growth, and how to leverage y…
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Behind the Scenes of a Free 30-Day Newsletter Growth Sprint
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35:15Get 30 proven strategies to grow and optimize your email list FREE >> "This might be the most fun I've had growing my newsletter." — Chenell And here's how Chenell's doing it. We're giving you a behind-the-scenes look at how 30 Days of Growth is going—and how we’re planning to make the most of the final stretch! With over 2,600 signups already and …
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568: How I'm using the Threads app for podcast growth.
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32:30In this episode I break down: WHY now is a great time to invest some energy into the Threads platform. HOW I'm using the Threads platform to grow my podcast audience and get clients. ***** Use the code THREADS by Friday May 9th to save 50% on my new course Threads Strategies for Podcasters: https://www.podcastingbusiness.school/threads-course *If y…
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Steal These 5 Newsletter Growth Levers You Can Start Today
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38:44Get 30 proven strategies to grow and optimize your email list FREE >> In this episode, we’re unpacking five high-performing newsletter growth levers that creators are using right now to grow smarter—not harder. Each tactic comes straight from Chenell's 30 Days of Growth series, where creators shared the exact strategies that helped them attract tho…
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How to Win with Video Marketing in 2025 with Wistia’s Head of Content, Sam Balter
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38:13Curious about what’s actually working in video marketing right now? On the latest episode of Talking Too Loud, Savage and Sylvie get the inside scoop from Sam Balter, Wistia’s head of content, and the data mastermind behind this year’s State of Video Report. From high-performing formats and the rise of interactive features, to smarter production wo…
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