Dave Gerhardt (Founder of Exit Five, former CMO) and guests help you grow your career in B2B marketing. Episodes include conversations with CMOs, marketing leaders, and subject matter experts across all aspects of modern B2B marketing: planning, strategy, operations, ABM, demand gen., product marketing, brand, content, social media, and more. Join 5,000+ members in our private community at exitfive.com.
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I'm a marketing exec. turned creator. Sharing what I'm learning building Exit Five here.
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Dave Gerhardt sits down with an entrepreneur or investor in the Boston startup community to talk about building a company in Boston. Learn more at techinboston.co.
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Welcome to Friends with Benefits, the business podcast about revenue-generating partnerships. Not "business time" with friends. This podcast is for those looking to build professional relationships that last and add tremendous value to your company and maybe even, you personally. Join hosts Jason and Sam Yarborough, who happen to be married, as they talk with some of the best in the industry. We will be tackling topics like what good partnerships looks like, how relationships can build immen ...
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95% Content is a show for B2B content teams who want to build trust with the 95% of buyers who are out-of-market today, but will be ready to buy in the future. You can call it many different things: content marketing, demand creation, brand marketing, dark social, or zero-click content. No matter what you call it, the goal is the same. You want to reach future buyers on the social and content platforms they hang out on every single day, and in a way that compels them to want to work with you ...
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Join world-renowned economist and Columbia University Professor Jeffrey Sachs for lively conversations with the authors of scintillating, inspiring and remarkably important books about history, social justice, and the challenges of building a decent world. Learn more and get involved at bookclubwithjeffreysachs.org. The Book Club with Jeffrey Sachs is brought to you by the SDG Academy, an initiative of the UN Sustainable Development Solutions Network. Produced by Karena Joslin. Audio editing ...
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This show is an attempt to document how some people court challenges with persistence. It’s about how their struggles have led them where they are, and how they think about life, and work, and the world around them. There are no hacks. No tactics. Just lives. And their itches. Interests and obsessions. Questions and discoveries. It’s an effort to provide a window on to our own struggles, and hence, trigger an inquiry towards a more meaningful life.
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Build gives you the inside track on all things product and product management. Host Maggie Crowley, former Olympian turned Harvard MBA turned Director of Product Management at Drift, sits down with the best of the best across product management, design, and engineering to bring you lessons from product greats at Atlassian, Pluralsight, VMware, and more.
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The Future of B2B Buying Experiences and the Role of AI in GTM with Jaleh Rezaei
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37:45#248 Marketing Strategy | Dave sits down with Jaleh Rezaei, founder and CEO of Mutiny, the personalization platform for B2B websites. Jaleh brings a unique blend of founder perspective and deep marketing expertise from her time building go-to-market teams at VMware, Gusto, and now Mutiny. She’s on a mission to help marketers ditch the spammy, scale…
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The Channel Architect: Jen Waltz on Building Real Partnerships in a Noisy World
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43:00Send us a text Jen Waltz doesn’t just build partner programs, she rewires them for impact. In this episode, Jen joins Jason and Sam to drop an absolute gem on authentic networking, channel evolution, and the art of partner-led scale. She dives into everything from being “voluntold” into channel, to the difference between real partnership and just p…
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The Lead Nurture Email Playbook: What Works and What Doesn’t
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58:59#247 Lead Nurturing | In this episode, Danielle is joined by Samar Owais, founder of Emails Done Right; Sheri Otto, CEO of Growth Lane Strategies; and Sofia Silva, Marketing Manager at Reachdesk. These three email experts came together for a live roast of real B2B lead nurture emails, submitted by marketers from the Exit Five community. You’ll hear…
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Fixing the Disconnect Between Marketing and Sales with Talya Heller
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41:01#246 Sales Alignment | Danielle welcomes Talya Heller, founder of Down to a T, a B2B consultancy helping marketers turn competitive positioning into high-impact sales assets. With experience in engineering, product management, and product marketing, Talya knows how to bridge the gap between what marketing builds and what sales actually uses. Togeth…
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B2B Outbound Best Practices: What’s Working Now with Cold Email and Paid Ads (with Alex Fine)
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39:29#245: Cold Email | Danielle Messler sits down with Alex Fine, co-founder of Understory, the agency behind some of the most effective outbound and paid strategies in B2B right now. Alex is leading the charge on a smarter approach to outbound called “Allbound”, a tightly integrated blend of outbound, paid media, and LinkedIn tactics that actually con…
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High-Pressure CMO Roles, Avoiding Burnout, and Growing your Personal Brand with Amanda Goetz
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45:33#244: Professional Growth | Dave is joined by Amanda Goetz, a 2x founder, 3x CMO, and the author behind the popular weekly newsletter, Life's A Game. Amanda shares her expertise in personal and professional growth, brand building, and content creation. Amanda and Dave cover: How Amanda transformed her LinkedIn strategy to grow her following and eng…
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The Zero to One Partnership Playbook with Joe Henderson
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55:36Send us a text Joe Henderson, a seasoned expert in global partnerships, shares his journey from an accidental entry into the field to becoming a specialist in building partnerships from scratch. Joe discusses the nuances of establishing global partnerships, emphasizing the importance of understanding cultural differences and the necessity of face-t…
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Season 4, Episode 9: Ray Kurzweil, The Singularity is Nearer: When We Merge with AI
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49:11Send us a text Join Professor Jeffrey Sachs and futurist Ray Kurzweil for a compelling conversation on the accelerating pace of technological change and its profound implications for the future of humanity. In his new book, The Singularity Is Nearer, Kurzweil revisits and updates his groundbreaking predictions on AI & AGI, exponential growth, and h…
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The monday.com Content Strategy That Builds Trust With Future Buyers
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42:55In this episode of 95% Content, Erik Jacobson talks with Yael Miller (Director of Content Marketing at monday.com) about how they've built a content strategy designed to build trust with the 95% of potential buyers who aren't actively looking for a solution yet. Yael joined monday.com when there was no content team and has since grown it to a team …
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B2B LinkedIn Ads Playbook: What Works (and What Doesn’t) in 2025
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51:49#243 Linkedin Ads | In this episode, Danielle Messler sits down with Anthony Blatner (LinkedIn ads expert and certified instructor) and Tagg Bozied (Head of Brand Awareness at Docebo and award-winning B2B campaign strategist) to dig into what actually works with B2B LinkedIn ads in 2025. These two have spent years in the trenches, building campaign…
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The Quiet Shift: How B2B Teams are Winning Post-SEO
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52:56#242: Content Strategy | In this episode, Danielle sits down with Brendan Hufford, founder of Growth Sprints, to talk about what actually works in content and SEO today and why most B2B strategies are broken. Brendan went from high school teacher to leading content at top SaaS companies, and now helps brands move faster and build content strategies…
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From FBI Spy Recruitment to Building Unbreakable Alliances with Robin Dreeke
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59:15Send us a text Join Jason and Sam on the Friends with Benefits podcast as they chat with Robin Dreeke, a former FBI counterintelligence expert. Robin shares his unique insights on building trust and relationships, drawing from his 21 years of experience in the FBI. He talks about the importance of understanding others' challenges and priorities, an…
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Email Marketing Breakdown: How to Cut Through the Noise in 2025
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53:08#241: Email Strategy | Email isn’t dead – it’s just changing fast. It’s still one of the few B2B marketing channels where you can actually own your audience and reach your ideal customers with the push of a button. In this session from the Ultimate Roast of B2B Emails, Danielle hosts Beth O’Malley (Founder, astral.), Jay Schwedelson (Founder, Subje…
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Video in B2B: What Works, What Doesn’t, and Where to Start
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35:09#240: Video Strategy | In this episode, Danielle sits down with Connor Lewis, founder of Studio Lewis, to talk all things B2B video - what works, what doesn’t, and how to actually get started. Connor spent years building in-house video from the ground up before going solo. Now, he works with B2B brands on high-performing video ads and he’s here to …
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How To Measure Your Marketing Efforts (And Why Click Attribution Is Dead)
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54:55#239: Measurement | In this Exit Five live session, Dave sits down with Pranav Piyush, Co-Founder & CEO of Paramark (ex-PayPal, Dropbox, Adobe, BILL), to talk about the future of B2B marketing measurement. Spoiler alert: it’s not clicks. They break down why the old way of doing attribution doesn’t cut it anymore and why leading B2B teams are shifti…
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How to Stop The Busywork in B2B Marketing (with Dmitry Shamis)
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46:14#238: Brand | In this episode, Dave sits down with Dmitry Shamis, former Head of Brand at HubSpot and now founder of Oh Snap, to talk about what brand really means in B2B and why so many teams are stuck doing busy work instead of meaningful marketing. After leading a team of 150+ creatives and scaling HubSpot’s brand across multiple products, Dmitr…
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The Science of Authenticity with MK Getler-Porizkova
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51:37Send us a text -Porizkova You can’t automate authenticity. You have to earn it. In this episode, we sit down with MK Getler-Porizkova, CMO at Loop & Tie, host of The Connected Brand podcast, and someone who talks about human connection like it’s their life’s calling (because it is). We dive deep into the idea that real leadership starts with self-a…
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B2B Doesn't Have to Be Boring with Udi Ledergor, Chief Evangelist at Gong
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56:29#237: Strategy | Udi Ledergor (former CMO, now Chief Evangelist at Gong) helped turn Gong into one of B2B’s most iconic brands—and now he’s sharing how they scaled it to a multi-billion dollar valuation. In this episode, Dave sits down with Udi to unpack lessons from building Gong’s category, brand, and marketing engine (and why B2B marketing needs…
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The Role of Product Marketing in B2B: Strategies, Tools, and Metrics for Success
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52:55#236: Product Marketing | Product marketers are no strangers to change. Whether it’s navigating new responsibilities, proving impact to leadership, or balancing short-term wins with long-term strategy, the role is constantly evolving - and in 2025, that evolution is only accelerating. This Exit Five Live session is built to help you stay ahead. Dav…
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Benefits Worth Repeating: The Best Quotes with Sam and Jason.
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41:20Send us a text In this episode, Jason and Sam dive into a playful game of quote recall from past episodes, sparking discussions on key partnership strategies. They explore the challenges of gaining board-level support, the importance of speaking the business language, and the pitfalls of spreading resources too thin across multiple partnerships. Th…
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Season 4, Episode 8: Prof. Lauren Benton, They Called it Peace: Worlds of Imperial Violence
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46:17Send us a text Join Professor Jeffrey Sachs and American historian Lauren Benton for a discussion on the hidden histories of empires and the lasting impact of imperial violence. In her book, They Called It Peace: Worlds of Imperial Violence Benton uncovers how European powers built and maintained their empires through relentless cycles of raiding, …
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The 7 Marketing Metrics Every B2B Leader Should Report On
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43:22#235: Strategy |In this episode, Matt sits down with Aditya Vempaty, VP of Marketing at MoEngage, to talk about a topic every marketing leader has wrestled with: reporting on the right metrics. Aditya has led marketing at companies like Nutanix, Amplitude, and Synthego - and he’s learned how to build dashboards and reporting frameworks that actuall…
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Mastering Messaging, Copy, and Clarity with Emma Stratton
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53:10#234: Messaging | In this episode, Dave sits down with Emma Stratton, founder of Punchy, to break down what great B2B messaging actually looks like - and how to get it right. Emma has worked with hundreds of B2B tech companies to sharpen their positioning, eliminate vague copy, and train marketing teams to write with clarity and impact. They cover …
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Ned Arick on What it Means to Build Meaningful Momentum
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1:02:43Send us a text Ned Arick, a successful leader with multiple exits, shares his journey of personal transformation and redefining success. He discusses the challenges of climbing the corporate ladder while losing sight of what truly matters. In this conversation, we explore the importance of self-discovery, setting boundaries, and finding joy in both…
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10 Timeless Content Marketing Principles (with Dave Gerhardt)
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53:16In this episode of 95% Content, Erik Jacobson welcomes back Dave Gerhardt (Founder of Exit Five) to discuss timeless content and marketing principles that never change, even as technology and trends change. Here’s the topics and principles Erik and Dave discuss in this episode: Knowing your customer and audience better than anyone else Being able t…
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Inside Exit Five: How We Doubled Community Growth in Under a Year (with Matt Carnevale)
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1:01:24#233: Inside Exit Five | In this episode, Matt Carnevale (Head of Community at Exit Five) joins the team at Circle to break down how we’ve doubled Exit Five community membership and boosted engagement—all by treating Exit Five like a product. He shares our playbook: audience growth, engagement systems, how we use member feedback to shape what we bu…
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How Marketers Can Be Better Partners with Sales (with Jen Allen-Knuth)
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54:09#232: Sales | Dave sits down with Jen Allen-Knuth, founder of DemandJen. Jen shares her insights from her 15+ years in B2B Sales, from managing a quota to building great working relationships with marketing. Jen and Dave cover: Co-creating content with Marketing and Sales that drives better customer engagement and grows your pipeline How Jen succes…
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Dave Gerhardt on Becoming the One Your Buyers Trust
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56:02Send us a text In this episode, Jason and Sam welcome marketing legend Dave Gerhardt. Known for his industry-shifting marketing approach at Drift and now leading Exit 5, Dave shares his journey from CMO to community builder. He emphasizes the power of human connection in marketing, especially in an era dominated by AI. Dave discusses the importance…
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We Audited 100+ B2B Websites – Here's What We Learned (with Talia Wolf)
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52:54#230: Messaging | In this episode, Matt sits down with Talia Wolf, founder and CEO of GetUplift, to unpack what’s really wrong with most B2B websites – and how to fix it. After reviewing 100+ member-submitted sites from the Exit Five community, Talia shares what she sees over and over again: messaging that’s too focused on the product, poor design …
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Inside the Minds of Top CMOs: What’s Working, What’s Not, and How the CMO Role is Evolving in B2B Marketing
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1:00:58#229: Marketing Leadership | In this episode, Dave sits down with Megan Lueders (CMO at Sonatype), Ido Mart (CMO at Manychat), and Kimberly Storin (CMO at Zayo) for a live CMO panel discussion at Exit Five’s Austin marketing meetup. These marketing leaders share what’s working what’s not in B2B marketing today and how the role of the CMO is evolvin…
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Unlocking Your Potential through the Power of Thought with Mara Gleason Olsen
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55:06Send us a text Mara Gleason Olson shares her journey from witnessing a profound change in her father to becoming a leader in understanding human consciousness. She reveals how our thoughts shape our reality and how we can harness this to improve our lives. Through her work with Rebels for Peace, Mara empowers youth in Chicago to break free from lim…
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LinkedIn Ads & Strategy for B2B with Anthony Blatner
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44:18#228: LinkedIn Strategy | Anthony is one of the nine LinkedIn Certified Marketing Experts in North America. He’s also the Managing Director of Speedwork, a B2B LinkedIn Marketing Agency, and hosts the LinkedIn Ads Radio Podcast. He and Dave discuss LinkedIn Ad Creative & Consistent Branding Thought Leader Ads & Organic Reach Niche Audiences & Custo…
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The B2B Event Playbook: Building Revenue-Driving Events in 2025
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54:05#227: Events | In this episode, Dave hosts a live Exit Five session with Zuddl and panelists Stephanie Christensen (Event Marketing Leader) and Kristina DeBrito (Director of Strategic Events at Iterable) to break down how B2B marketers should be thinking about events in 2025. From small VIP dinners to large customer conferences, events are making a…
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How Sean Kester Built an Industry-Leading Partner Program at SalesLoft
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53:27Send us a text What does it take to build a partner program from scratch and make it a competitive differentiator? In this episode, we sit down with Sean Kester, an early employee at SalesLoft who played a pivotal role in building their partner ecosystem from the ground up. Sean shares how he transitioned from sales development to product leadershi…
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What’s Your One Key Message? Mastering B2B Messaging & Copywriting with Diane Wiredu, Founder of Lion Words
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49:46#226: Messaging | In this episode, Dave sits down with Diane Wiredu, messaging expert and founder of Lion Words, a consultancy that helps B2B tech and SaaS companies achieve message-market fit so they can stand out, market more effectively, and sell more. Diane breaks down why most B2B messaging falls flat, how to fix it, and why messaging is more …
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Content, Community, and Building a 200,000+ B2B Audience with Dave
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49:32#225: Q&A with Dave | In this episode, Dave joins Ross Hudgens on Content and Conversation: Organic Growth Insights from Siege Media to break down content strategy, brand building, and why organic marketing is the foundation of great B2B marketing. Dave shares his journey from marketing leader to building Exit Five and explains why community-driven…
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Season 4, Episode 7: Richard Overy, Why War?
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51:34Send us a text Join Professor Jeffrey Sachs and historian, Professor Richard Overy for an insightful conversation on one of humanity’s most unsettling questions: Why do we wage war? In his book, Why War? Overy takes us on a journey across time, from the ancient battlefields of the Roman Empire to the devastation of the World Wars and the conflicts …
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#224: Website Teardown | In this episode, Danielle (Head of Content at Exit Five) hosts a panel with top SEO and content marketing experts: Rita Cidre, Head of Academy at Semrush; Ross Simmonds, CEO at Foundation & Distribution.ai; and Tom Whatley, CEO of Grizzle. Together, they break down real B2B websites, exposing the biggest SEO mistakes and sh…
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A Masterclass in Go-To-Network with Stephen Oommen
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57:56Send us a text Join us this July for the Arcadia Leadership Experience. Early Bird pricing through 2/28. Arcadialeadershipexperience.com Welcome back to Friends with Benefits! In this episode, we’re diving deep into the world of GTM (Go-to-Market) strategy, partnerships, and networking with our special guest, Stephen Oommen. Stephen is a powerhouse…
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Category Creation and Market Leadership with the CMO of 1Password, Melton Littlepage
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50:45In this episode, Dave sits down with Melton Littlepage, CMO at 1Password, to discuss how he’s transforming a well-known consumer brand into a B2B category leader in cybersecurity. With decades of experience in SaaS marketing, Melton shares insights on category creation, demand generation, and the intersection of brand and product marketing—and why …
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How To Build a High Converting Product Page
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53:05#222: Website Teardown | Do your product pages actually tell potential customers what they need to know—or are they just a list of features they’ll ignore? In this session from the Ultimate Roast of B2B Websites, Madhav Bhandari, Head of Marketing at Storylane, joins Robert Kaminski, Co-Founder at Fletch PMM and Dan Murphy, COO at Exit Five to tear…
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The Secret to Bigger, Better, Faster Revenue with Jason
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27:06Send us a text How do you break into new markets, shorten sales cycles, and build trust with buyers before your first conversation? Partnerships. In this special episode, we're replaying Jason’s B2BMX talk, "The Partner Effect", where he breaks down how partnerships can drive warmer leads, faster sales cycles, bigger deals, and deeper customer trus…
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Win/Loss Analysis: How to Turn Customer Insights Into Revenue
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47:34Episode #221: Strategy | In this episode, Matt Carnevale sits down with Drew Giovannoli, founder of Buried Wins, to dive deep into Win/Loss analysis and how product marketers can use it to drive better sales, positioning, and competitive strategy. Drew shares how he helps B2B companies turn customer insights into revenue-driving decisions, plus the…
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New On-Demand Training: AI Playbooks for B2B Marketers
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8:55Matthew Carnevale, Head of Community at Exit Five, introduces AI Playbooks, a new on-demand training program packed with expert-led tutorials and ready-to-use templates designed to help you drive better results with AI. No fluff, no theory—just real playbooks from 15 B2B marketers showing exactly how they use AI for ICP research, personalization at…
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Season 4, Episode 6: Jon Wolfsthal; Federation of American Scientists, Doomsday Clock
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51:26Send us a text Join Professor Jeffrey Sachs and global security expert Jon Wolfsthal to unravel the stark reality behind the Doomsday Clock - now set at a perilous 89 seconds to midnight. What does this ominous timepiece truly measure, and why has humanity never been closer to catastrophe? Wolfsthal offers a behind-the-scenes look at the decision-m…
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Strategies for Building a High-Converting B2B Homepage
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57:27Episode #220: Website Teardown | In this session from the Ultimate Roast of B2B Websites, Dave Gerhardt teams up with Diane Wiredu, messaging strategist and founder of Lion Words, and Lee Reshef, Head of Product Marketing & Retention at Fiverr, to break down what makes a high-converting B2B homepage. They critique real B2B homepages, analyzing mess…
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Creating Differentiated Content That Builds Trust (with John Bonini, Founder of Content Brands)
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49:53In this episode of 95% Content, Erik Jacobson talks with John Bonini (Founder of Content Brands) about how B2B companies can create truly differentiated content that builds trust and affinity with their audience. Here’s what you’ll learn in this episode: The problem with undifferentiated content in B2B and why it's getting worse with AI How to crea…
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#219: Strategy | ABM and AI for Outbound with Trinity Nguyen, CMO at UserGems
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51:36In this episode, Dave sits down with Trinity Nguyen, CMO at UserGems, to discuss her journey from first business hire to CMO, the role of product marketing in B2B, and how AI is transforming outbound sales. Trinity got started at UserGems’ by building their first website for free, then got hired as Head of Marketing and has shaped the company’s ABM…
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#218: Website Teardown | How to Build B2B Landing Pages That Actually Convert with Tas Bober, Founder of The Scroll Lab, Gabi Sellam, Conversion Specialist at Fiverr, and Will Hoekenga, Founder of Six ...
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58:19You work hard to drive traffic to your landing pages – they’re the backbone of lead generation and conversion. In this session from our Ultimate Roast of B2B Websites, Tas Bober, Founder of The Scroll Lab, Gabi Sellam, Conversion Specialist at Fiverr, and Will Hoekenga, Founder of Six Words Studio and expert copywriter, sit down to discuss how to n…
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#217: Marketing Leadership | Why Product Marketing is the Foundation of Great Marketing Leadership with Jessica Andrews, VP of Marketing at Copper
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45:00In this episode, Matt Carnevale sits down with Jessica Andrews, VP of Marketing at Copper, a CRM built specifically for agencies, consultancies, and media companies, designed to help relationship-driven businesses find ideal clients, win new business, manage projects, and nurture customer relationships. The two discuss Jessica’s journey from Senior…
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