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Demand Avoidance Decoded

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What actually is PDA?

Speech and language therapist Libby Hill cuts through the confusion with clarity and compassion, drawing on decades of clinical experience and her work with leading PDA researchers.
"There's demand avoidance, and then there's PDA," Libby explains, highlighting the crucial differences that parents and professionals often miss. While many children resist external demands for logical reasons—sensory discomfort, lack of interest, or burnout—true PDA involves an illogical resistance even to things the person wants to do. This distinction isn't just academic; it fundamentally changes how we should support these children.
Libby and I discuss the struggles parents face when it comes to PDA. The shame, isolation, and burnout experienced when supporting a child or young person with a PDA profile. "Who do you confide in?" she asks, highlighting how parents frequently suffer in silence, afraid to share their reality even with close family.
Whether you're a parent seeking answers, a professional enhancing your knowledge, or someone who suspects they might have a PDA profile themselves, this conversation provides invaluable insights.

People and support that were discussed in the episode:

Sally Cat: https://www.facebook.com/SallyCatPDA

PDA Society website: https://www.pdasociety.org.uk/ and helpline: https://www.pdasociety.org.uk/support-and-training/

Libby mentions the PDA practice guidelines which you can find here: https://www.pdasociety.org.uk/research-professional-practice/identification-and-diagnosis-process/

You can find Libby here:

Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn

And her new book "Born Naughty"

Support the show

I'm Liz, The Untypical OT. I support parents and carers in additional needs and neurodivergent families with burnout, mental health and well-being. When we support parents, everyone benefits.
If this episode made you laugh out loud or feel a little less alone, why not buy me a coffee? It's a small way to show your support and keep this podcast going.

Support the Show: https://buymeacoffee.com/the.untypical.ot

Connect with Liz: https://linktr.ee/the_untypical_ot

🔗 To connect with me, you can find all my details on Linktree:
https://linktr.ee/the_untypical_ot
And if you'd like to contact me about the podcast please use the text link at the top or you can email at:
[email protected].

  continue reading

Chapters

1. Demand Avoidance Decoded (00:00:00)

2. Meeting Libby Hill (00:00:59)

3. Perfect Parenting and Respect-Based Approaches (00:04:28)

4. What is PDA? Understanding the Basics (00:09:08)

5. PDA vs. Extreme Demand Avoidance (00:15:11)

6. Research Challenges and Diagnostic Confusion (00:21:59)

7. Born Naughty: Libby's Introduction to PDA (00:32:39)

8. Supporting Parents and Accessing Help (00:40:36)

9. New Book and Resources for Professionals (00:46:05)

31 episodes

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Enjoyed the episode, got a suggestion or a question send me a text

What actually is PDA?

Speech and language therapist Libby Hill cuts through the confusion with clarity and compassion, drawing on decades of clinical experience and her work with leading PDA researchers.
"There's demand avoidance, and then there's PDA," Libby explains, highlighting the crucial differences that parents and professionals often miss. While many children resist external demands for logical reasons—sensory discomfort, lack of interest, or burnout—true PDA involves an illogical resistance even to things the person wants to do. This distinction isn't just academic; it fundamentally changes how we should support these children.
Libby and I discuss the struggles parents face when it comes to PDA. The shame, isolation, and burnout experienced when supporting a child or young person with a PDA profile. "Who do you confide in?" she asks, highlighting how parents frequently suffer in silence, afraid to share their reality even with close family.
Whether you're a parent seeking answers, a professional enhancing your knowledge, or someone who suspects they might have a PDA profile themselves, this conversation provides invaluable insights.

People and support that were discussed in the episode:

Sally Cat: https://www.facebook.com/SallyCatPDA

PDA Society website: https://www.pdasociety.org.uk/ and helpline: https://www.pdasociety.org.uk/support-and-training/

Libby mentions the PDA practice guidelines which you can find here: https://www.pdasociety.org.uk/research-professional-practice/identification-and-diagnosis-process/

You can find Libby here:

Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn

And her new book "Born Naughty"

Support the show

I'm Liz, The Untypical OT. I support parents and carers in additional needs and neurodivergent families with burnout, mental health and well-being. When we support parents, everyone benefits.
If this episode made you laugh out loud or feel a little less alone, why not buy me a coffee? It's a small way to show your support and keep this podcast going.

Support the Show: https://buymeacoffee.com/the.untypical.ot

Connect with Liz: https://linktr.ee/the_untypical_ot

🔗 To connect with me, you can find all my details on Linktree:
https://linktr.ee/the_untypical_ot
And if you'd like to contact me about the podcast please use the text link at the top or you can email at:
[email protected].

  continue reading

Chapters

1. Demand Avoidance Decoded (00:00:00)

2. Meeting Libby Hill (00:00:59)

3. Perfect Parenting and Respect-Based Approaches (00:04:28)

4. What is PDA? Understanding the Basics (00:09:08)

5. PDA vs. Extreme Demand Avoidance (00:15:11)

6. Research Challenges and Diagnostic Confusion (00:21:59)

7. Born Naughty: Libby's Introduction to PDA (00:32:39)

8. Supporting Parents and Accessing Help (00:40:36)

9. New Book and Resources for Professionals (00:46:05)

31 episodes

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