TPToA Podcast 412 – M3GAN 2.0

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M3gan 2.0

The B1tc# is B@ck is not the tagline for this movie… but it could very easily have been. After the surprise hit that was the first M3gan, Blumhouse have done what they do best, and that is turn around a moderately budgeted sequel in a surprisingly quick time. Does this make for an excellent film that expands the original property and deepens the lore and background of the character? No.

Does is make for an energetic romp that features not one but two murderous cyborgs with dead, doll-like eyes, doing martial arts and ridiculous stunts? Possibly. Listen in the full review to get the down low on the download.

D10n , Qu1nny and J1ll are all on board for this episode and you better believe they not only have opinions, but a bunch of ways the film could have been SO much better.

Synopsis

Two years after M3GAN, a marvel of artificial intelligence, went rogue and embarked on a murderous rampage, its creator, Gemma, has become an advocate for government oversight of AI. Unbeknownst to her, a defense contractor has created a military-grade weapon known as Amelia, the ultimate infiltration spy. However, as Emlia’s self-awareness increases, it becomes less interested in taking orders. Hoping to stop Emilia, Gemma decides to resurrect M3GAN, making it faster, stronger, and more lethal.

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Dion

Ohh yes.

Speaker 7

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Speaker 4

Play diva humpty. Yeah, yes.

Dion

That’s what’s yes, it’s it’s all it’s all about female empowerment. You’re right about what else you’re right about here.

Quinny

Sort of, yeah.

Dion

No.

Jill

We trained our AI writing script on 1000 hours of RuPaul’s Drag Race and. This is what it came up with.

Dion

And yeah, and it’s actually better than.

Quinny

You you spent so long working out whether you could, you didn’t see whether you should but but but funnily. Going on this next week, sorry.

Dion

Enough that AI chat bot is still better than grok so.

Quinny

Yeah.

Dion

Hello, welcome to period. My name is and.

Jill

Jillian on. I am J1 all.

Quinny

QY Q1 and bifurcated numbers.

Dion

Yes. That’s right. And and Quinn, three, who’s there? And tonight we are talking about the sequel to the 2023.

Jill

Movie, yeah.

Dion

Methree again, I refuse to call anything else than. That Reagan 2.

Speaker 8

I guess.

Dion

Yeah. Oh my God.

Jill

3 and 2.0.

Dion

Yeah. Sorry. You’re right. 3 and 2.0, which if we’re going to follow these conventions, it’s going to be math. 3 gun version 4. Beta. Yeah, well, no version 4.1 final final use. This one final please. Final.

Quinny

Yeah. So no, really no really final and then you’ll find it in the wrong folder cause you for some reason chose the wrong place where you saved.

Dion

It. Yeah, yeah. Or someone will desperately call you and go. Did you make a backup of it? I deleted it accidentally.

Quinny

Always. No.

Dion

No or you start writing it in like a cloud based service and then suddenly someone will produce the movie 3 months before you were releasing it and.

Speaker

Thanks.

Dion

You’re like, OK.

Quinny

Hey, it looks like you’re trying to write a. Script for a. Sequel, you want me to **** it?

Dion

Up for you. Completely bad news. We’ve already scraped it and. Really. Sit in China. It’s bad when you get to the point where even asylum films are being outdone by people stealing the once.

Speaker 7

That’s awesome.

Quinny

Oh, it hurts. It hurts and it hurts.

Dion

That’s not miss Reagan.

Quinny

No. So I want to know.

Speaker

Yeah.

Quinny

I I can’t remember. Did we all enjoy? I think we all enjoyed Megan, didn’t we?

Jill

We did quite thoroughly. We actually looked up the scores that we gave.

Dion

We did.

Quinny

It ohh damn you know.

Dion

Yeah, we did, yeah. When you weren’t here because you were late. COVID and I. Yeah. Now Jill and I went back and looked it up and we reviewed it in 20 January of 2023. And we gave it got a full score.

Quinny

Ohh Jesus Christ, because I’ve got for ********.

Dion

85 because Karina’s score dropped it down from what would have. Been like nothing.

Quinny

Oh.

Dion

So we all had a nice time.

Jill

Thanks Karina.

Dion

Yeah.

Quinny

Good. Damn it. I mean, she’s in the chat right now. She could enter.

Speaker 8

Yes. Yeah.

Quinny

For herself, yeah.

Dion

100%.

Quinny

And incomes cash for with. Like that.

Dion

Subbing subbing for that.

Jill

Thank you. Thank you. As 51 month streak.

Quinny

Oh my God. Jesus. That’s incredible.

Speaker 4

Wow. Wow.

Dion

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it’s.

Jill

God. Is that like how? Long. We’ve been. Yeah, it’s on Twitch.

Dion

Just swinging here. Yeah, yeah, at least.

Quinny

Yeah. Yeah, look.

Jill

Rocky.

Dion

We had to. We had to do all this stuff when it all became apparent that we couldn’t get together and talk about it, and now we just kept doing it.

Speaker

Hmm.

Dion

Yeah. So.

Quinny

We’re we’re still rocking and also Karina, I love the carinas. Not even sorry with her mark. She’s like, whatever.

Jill

Yeah.

Dion

Sorry.

Jill

No regrets.

Dion

Totally, no regrets. Look, I mean, thinking back to the time when we saw the original, I had a great time with it. It was a fun, quirky, slightly creepy Horror Story. It was.

Jill

Yeah.

Dion

We gave it a good score. It had a a fun thing in it. It had the weird dancing. It had the the, like sort of animal running. Very. Yeah. Very camp. But also kind of very creepy. And you just didn’t know how things were going to go.

Jill

Yeah, it was highly camp.

Quinny

It had a bit of style to it too, like it was, it was, you know, a pretty standard like slasher kind of thing. It was. It was child’s play, but with ale.

Jill

Yeah, it’s like, how do we ask the fibroid a.

Quinny

Chucky. Yeah. And I I was was very, very much into that. And like, you know. The the bit with. Yeah. Weird doll face thing chasing kids through the woods and you know, like a dog and ****.

Jill

Yeah. Pushing them in front. Of cars or?

Quinny

Yeah, yeah, there was. There was a whole bunch of cool **** in that first film, but I was like, oh, yeah, that’s actually kind of fun. There’s a.

Jill

Lot really kind of subverted the horror genre as well, but like being so overtly camp, I mean there are quite a lot of camp horror movies that, you know, become cult classics. But this was like.

Dion

Yeah.

Jill

For the modern era, you know about AI and.

Speaker 7

Yeah.

Dion

Yeah. Yeah. Like, yeah.

Jill

What it’s doing to kids and that kind. Of stuff so.

Dion

It was near futurism, you know, it’s kind of like it’s, you know, we’re building robotics.

Jill

Syfy slant.

Dion

Yeah, robotics are more incorporated. It’s close to where we are. It’s a bit Black Mirror, but also it was, it was funny. Because watching. That’s creepy. It’s creepy. Funny you.

Quinny

That was the thing I think that. Know that was the thing that that really worked for me the first time around was that it was. Funny and like when it did creepy, it did creepy well, but there was enough knowing nods and funny to make.

Dion

Yeah.

Quinny

You go oh. Yeah, this this knows what it is. This.

Dion

Knows where it’s at and to be completely honest, begging for a sequel. You know, as soon as that the the credits rolled on the first one I was like, Yep, that will do. Yeah. Now we got a new franchise of the freaking.

Speaker 7

Hold.

Dion

Killer Sassy killer robot *****. I like her. Let’s go. And now, what are we almost 2 and a bit years later, we’ve got 3 and 2.0.

Speaker

Yeah. Hmm.

Dion

Which is.

Speaker 4

Yeah, yeah, I mean.

Jill

I mean, I don’t think patina particularly. No, really. We’re like, OK, So what were all the things about? The first one that made it successful and what everybody loved, it’s like, great, let’s do that again, but more.

Speaker

Yeah. Hmm.

Dion

Yeah, I love. Like all of it when I think about the marketing for it. I was watching this come. I was like, oh, they’re now sound. Like, great, this sounds good. And then it was just catch phrase, catch phrase, neon catch phrase. And I’m like, oh, no.

Speaker

Yeah.

Dion

Oh, no, no, no. Oh, no, no, I didn’t like. I didn’t like the catch phrases from the first movie. I like the creepy murderbot.

Speaker

Yeah.

Jill

Yeah, they’re. Yeah, they’re like ohh quick. Culture is like really latched on to this, like, let’s pander to them more and just like, turn her into hunty diva boots, the house down, Yas Queen.

Dion

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 8

And it lost all.

Speaker 4

Of the horror.

Quinny

Like, I mean, what was what was the?

Dion

Thing with it was like, ohh Miss Megan’s the the the horrible murderous robot. Oh yeah, that should be the person. We’ve got to empathize with. And following the sequel, it’s like, No, No, we don’t.

Quinny

No, no, you there are many things that you have taken away from this first film that you’ve taken away role.

Speaker

What have we?

Dion

What if we made her the antihero? No, please. No, no, guys, no.

Quinny

So do do you do you want a synopsis? I have the synopsis.

Speaker 4

Ohh please.

Dion

Sure. I actually don’t have any music, but.

Quinny

No, no, that’s OK like.

Dion

There you go. I’ll put a little bit in.

Quinny

The background. There we go, OK. And I I don’t think I can do any kind of. Robot voice for this.

Dion

No, you.

Quinny

Cause like she’s, she’s auto tuned. It’s it’s all very, you know, Glados. It’s not a.

Speaker

Quinny

Thing.

Speaker 7

Quinny

Two years after Megan. Mr. Egan. Whatever you wanna call it, a marvel of artificial intelligence went rogue and embarked on a murderous rampage. Its creator, Jammer, has become an advocate for government oversight of AI. Very exciting. Unbeknownst to her, a defense contractor has created a military grade weapon known as. Amelia. Here, the ultimate infiltration spy. However, as Amelia’s self-awareness increases, it becomes less interested in taking audits, hoping to stop Amelia. Gemma decides to resurrect at Merigan, making it faster, stronger, and more lethal. That’s not entirely. Accurate, no. I also I’m gonna assume that an idiot wrote this because it goes from being Amelia to Amelia, like there are typos and she had. All through it.

Dion

So what you’re telling me? Is the AI wrote this?

Quinny

I think it may have been written.

Speaker

No.

Quinny

By II cause it’s. Yeah, like it’s Amelia, the Emilia, and then something else.

Dion

Yeah.

Quinny

Well done everybody.

Dion

All of the characters that were there in the first one are back in the second one, and that’s yeah, kind of great. Like, you know, there wasn’t anyone who was offensive.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Dion

You know, and that some of the ideas that were presented were pretty good, you know, like, as in, how do you do a sequel? What are we gonna go here? I I have to say it’s not one of those ones that is kind of really dumb. Dumb logic. Like there’s a few jumps. Yeah. Yeah.

Quinny

No.

Jill

No, I mean like when I heard the plot for the film, I was like ohh, that sounds dumb. I’m in. Yeah, but like, in a fun way of like, it’s gonna be a camp horror film again. I can. I can buy into the ridiculousness of the movie, especially because like the cast is so good at selling it as well.

Speaker

Hmm.

Quinny

Yeah. And then. Yeah, and and I. Mean you’ve kind of got that tradition. Of something like Terminator and then Terminator 2 where you know the first one kill the robot second one. Ohh we make the robot the protector. But like cool. Yeah. And as Casper says, a worst to murder too. Yes. Yeah, Terminator 2 where like the the bad guy doesn’t have any. Any of the interestingness of the T1000.

Speaker 7

I’m worse.

Dion

Kind of. Or, yeah, yeah, a major Japanese. Do you know, like Arnold Schwarzenegger always wanted to do more comedy, more comedy. You know, anything. Imagine if they just let him into. Medicine.

Speaker

Oh.

Quinny

Do you remember the the the the shots in Terminator 3 where he’s like he puts on the the the star sunglasses and stuff?

Dion

Yeah. And that’s kind of. Kind of weak. Yes.

Quinny

All that, yeah.

Dion

And that is kind of this version of of Megan. It’s like the yassif tied. Meghan.

Speaker

It’s yeah.

Dion

Versus.

Jill

To the to the absolute enth degree. Like they they went too far. They turned the dial too far.

Dion

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Fighting. Yeah. Fighting her as well. Not sister, but like cousin.

Quinny

All the way to levity, stupid. Cousin ****.

Dion

Sorry. Yeah, shin hottie from Asoka has has has appeared now as a murderous. Another murderous girl in this one which is, you know more realistic. And that was one of the things that kind of made me a little annoyed too. Was like ohh they took the idea like the the building blocks of Megan and made another one. And this one looks like a real person though. It’s like no part of the reason Meghan was creepy. You know. Well, yeah. No, she’s just murder robot, like stock standard dog standard murder robot. You know who’s hot? Ish. Hmm.

Jill

Yes, exactly.

Quinny

For for a yeah, in a prepubescent, weird way. Like, yeah, it’s.

Jill

Don’t get me wrong, I still had a good time. I still enjoyed the movie. I enjoyed the movie. I was.

Quinny

I was. I was. OK, that’s what I wanted to know.

Jill

Spying the plot. 2°.

Speaker

Yeah.

Jill

The actors again really sold it.

Quinny

Yeah.

Jill

They you know, they they were committed to the bit. You could tell that they were on the emotional journey. Just the thing that bothered me was it was so obvious. That they were. Trying to go harder than they did the first time around and it really just kind of lost the specialness of it being a subversive horror film.

Speaker

Yes.

Quinny

100%.

Speaker

Yeah.

Dion

And I feel like they muted.

Jill

Yes.

Dion

Megan, in a certain way, because they were like, no, no, the actual murder 1 is this other robot who will do the evil murdering, and then we’ll limit.

Speaker

Oh, gorgeous.

Speaker 4

I feel.

Jill

Like Meghan in the first one was, like, really harsh and like a Serbian, but this one was just kind of like.

Dion

Again. Hmm yeah.

Jill

Yeah, yeah, Devo let’s do. It. I’m like, what? Yeah, no, like, compliant. I don’t really get.

Dion

Yeah. It, well, the creepy thing about the first one, which I really liked is she was quiet. She was observant and she would be calculating, and that was the creepy thing about it. You, you. She’d be standing there looking and you’re like, what the **** is that thing thinking about in this one? They just put that internal monologue straight out.

Quinny

Yeah.

Speaker

Yeah.

Jill

Yeah, it was way too vocalised.

Dion

In that. Of like.

Quinny

Yeah, yeah, at no point in time. Are you questioning what her thoughts are? I mean, the the they do their best to give you a whole bunch of twists and turns and you know, shouldn’t be just a who’s a good.

Dion

I’m doing this now.

Jill

Yeah, I appreciated that because yeah, there was a lot of moments where I was like, oh, OK.

Quinny

Guy who’s a bad guy.

Jill

It’s not the that’s not what I thought it was. OK, well, we’re going somewhere else on this journey. But Megan, just monologue too much.

Quinny

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Jill

So like all of her motives were like out there.

Dion

Yeah.

Quinny

But also it felt like it had it had taken it from being a like a a creepy little, you know, stalky horror film like hand that rocks the cradle. Is this this cute thing suddenly deadly? It literally turns it into a candy coated weird sci-fi like superhero film like and I I’m look ************, I’m all down for candy coated superhero sci-fi, but this felt like Shark boy and lava girl a lot more of the time than it felt like Megan.

Jill

Yeah.

Dion

Including that you know the the images, it’s just off to the side there where she looks like love the girl like.

Quinny

You know.

Dion

You’re saying?

Jill

Oh yeah, yeah. That moment from like, the the thing where she was in a costume. I’m like, when I saw that. I’m like, wanna cosplay it?

Dion

Dancing comp the Ayo.

Speaker

Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Yeah.

Jill

That was, yeah, it was a fun outfit.

Dion

Don’t. Don’t do the dance, though. Do the the original dance like. I mean, that just felt like it was trying to replicate the dance that we saw in the first one. Which was weird. Umm yeah?

Jill

That’s the thing they’re like. How do? We do. Do all of the things from the first one that everybody loves but like, do it again and have them love it again.

Speaker

Yeah.

Jill

And there was like another I’ll, I’ll say I won’t spoil it for anyone, but it was another musical moment where I was kind of like, ah, OK, it was funny.

Speaker 7

Oh.

Jill

The first time around, but now. I I don’t think I can be in this moment. Seriously.

Quinny

Yeah. Yeah, I when when we come to talking about this, the spoilery stuff or whatever. Yeah, I’ve got real issues with that like.

Dion

There was some. There was, yeah, there was some genuine like, I mean this is. The thing like I. I think as a whole I didn’t. Really enjoy the film. But.

Speaker

Dion

There were bits in it that I was when I was going through it was like I had a fun time. Like I felt like it was a good fun time and I was going with no, this is moving really. This is moving pretty quickly. It’s it’s complicating itself, but then it’s kind of untangling those complications. I got lots of shades of like 80s movies that I didn’t think I’d get. Like I got a lot of Superman 3, like a lot of Ghostbusters.

Quinny

It was a massive Superman three, yeah.

Dion

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But also the Superman 5 nuclear man. I got that too. So was that four. Sorry. Apologies. Sorry.

Quinny

Yeah, there is number. 5.

Dion

No, no, that’s no, that was I was thinking about Highlander 5. But yes, Superman stuff and and some Ghostbusters, some other stuff that was thrown in there. I was kind of like.

Jill

Bit of Metropolis imagery as well.

Quinny

Sure. Very much so.

Dion

Yeah, yeah, yeah. A couple of twists, which I was like, oh, that was quite a. That was a good twist. Or that was interesting. And then a lot of the other stuff I was like, that’s just this is. Fine, but not great. And yeah, by the end of it, I’m like, I don’t need a myth organ or a mafia.

Quinny

Like I I would be happy to go back and and you know, re explore the Megan math Regan thing like. But I would want like something that went back to formula.

Dion

You know.

Quinny

I want something that is crappy. I want something that is about killer robots that.

Dion

Yeah.

Jill

Yeah. I mean, did Halloween or Friday the 13th, like, ever screw the pooch on the second film?

Quinny

You don’t trust.

Speaker 8

Like.

Quinny

Probably.

Jill

Oh, OK. Well, how do you have like such?

Dion

Yeah.

Jill

A long series in a in a horror franchise still be scary every movie, but like you.

Quinny

Know this and this is where this one fell down for me. Is that like it forgot that it was?

Speaker 7

Hmm.

Quinny

Horror movie. Yeah, like it totally, totally lost its its teeth. You know, there, there were a couple of. Heads spun around and stuff like that, but.

Jill

Yeah, there was like some gore, but like, that was about it. None of it was like terrifying.

Speaker

But.

Quinny

And there was no, no tension, no thriller like that, yeah.

Dion

Yeah, the the like some of the violence was there and remember it was all committed on the screen. It was mainly committed by the new one. Amelia, which in and sorry acronyms. I’m. Like. Oh, sorry acronyms, not acronyms. Acronyms. People must be sitting down trying to write. How like what name? Is this because of we have to make it into an acronym. I felt that that was a bit of a stretch, but like you know, they had all of those things done by her. But when it came to Megan, you know, nothing very bloody. Dement it happen and then they use a you know, a writing tool to stop her from doing that stuff. And it was so frustrating because that was what you wanted. You wanted this homicidal robot that you don’t trust to do those things which make you not want to trust that you want her to be an unreliable. Narrator.

Jill

Umm yeah, but I kind of felt by the end I was like, ohh, come on, Megan, you can do it like I was cheering her on.

Dion

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Betray them. Betray them. Betray. Yeah.

Speaker 8

Yeah.

Dion

That’s kind of what you’re going for.

Speaker

Hmm.

Jill

Yeah, it was way too much a a hero’s arc.

Dion

And I felt. Like in the.

Jill

Redemption.

Dion

In the in the setup too, you’re you’re given to Gemma the character Gemma. You’re given all the tools at the start of the movie to actually go. You’re being. It and you deserve to have something bad happened to you. You deserve to have your trust broken because you’re being sheet and that was just a bit of a let down to not have that kind.

Quinny

Of thing come through? Yeah. Yeah. Like they were. They were introduced a few new characters. Get rid of them very quickly. In most cases, like you know, and some of the fun, like I I thought Jermaine Clement was having a. Lot of. Fun yes.

Dion

Ohh he’s he’s he’s sort of cameo character was great.

Speaker 8

It is great value.

Dion

Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you ever gonna. If you ever gonna create a tech, bro, you don’t like.

Quinny

Yeah, done, man. And and I, I felt like.

Jill

He works. He wearing a prosthetic chest.

Quinny

100 yeah. Like I love that because it was just so musky. Like it was screaming the ******* Musk. All the way.

Dion

Yeah. And look.

Quinny

I mean, yeah, I would watch Megan versus Chucky, like the new Chucky that is the robot doll version.

Dion

I haven’t seen you.

Quinny

Jackie. Ohh that that one.

Jill

You need.

Quinny

God. Came out a few years ago now I think I’m not like. And then you’ve got the the mystery or you know, mythology of demons versus technology. Yeah.

Dion

Oh. I like, I feel like that. That’s something that they like. They went for that in the third film and it was like Megan versus Chucky. I’d be like, OK, fine. I’m. Back in, we’re.

Quinny

We’re on this, yes.

Dion

Let’s get back to this. It’s about them compare like competing with each other about how to do the most gruesome murder. I’d be like, great. That’s OK. Back on track, you know, steered in, you steered into the skid, and now you’re right. Everything.

Speaker

Yep.

Quinny

Yeah. Because they’ve definitely they’ve they’ve hit this one well and truly sideways, and they’re heading right for the ******* barrier. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Like there are moments in it that I laughed and I really enjoyed, like, you know, there’s a a point where Megan takes it over a car and and you know that like.

Speaker

Yeah.

Jill

They’re complaining.

Quinny

Just because I’m a fan of of Knight Rider, I was like no. OK, thank you. But then I thought you may have laid it on a. Little thick there guys.

Dion

Except for its catch.

Jill

Yeah, you can’t imagine Kit saying hold. On to your. Vaginas. Yeah, no.

Quinny

And yeah.

Dion

And that’s what I’m saying. There’s like, catch phrase. Everyone’s laughing, right. And I’m like. No, everyone went. It’s like they you. It was the first. We all know you don’t have one. And secondly, come on. You know you’re supposed to be a 12 year old girl thing or or are you now a teenager because you’re growing up in the AI space.

Speaker 7

Hmm.

Dion

You know, and it’s like, OK, you’ve got the the metaphors that you’re going for here, you know, the the difference is everyone has to grow and become different. I’m like, yeah, but that doesn’t mean you go from. Homicidal robot too. Maybe I’m the savior.

Quinny

I mean there, there is some other interesting stuff that I I do want to talk about that is less fun, right?

Jill

Ohh, like the narrative around technology and intelligence.

Quinny

Yeah. Yeah. Like the there’s, there’s. Like they’re trying to say something here and that’s the thing that occasionally feels.

Speaker

Yeah.

Quinny

Interesting, but also at odds with the kind of film that it is like they’re they’re very definitely making some pretty big swings at, you know, is AI a problem and what is? What are the questions of the the ethics of it and everything. But the thing that got me.

Dion

Yeah.

Quinny

And that kind of weirded me. Out a little bit. So the guy Christian is, is an AI ethicist and is somebody who’s trying to get AI shut down, basically. There is. There is a podcast I listen to quite regularly and. The weird thing about is the person. One of the two hosts of this one. It’s OK. It’s from a place called the Center for Humane Technology. And they’ve been doing talks and speeches around the world about the AI dilemma and what it’s actually doing to. What? What it’s heading towards, it’s not good. The lead guy of the podcast is a guy called Tristan and the fact that they kept he’s not Tristan. He’s not Christian, he’s Christian. I was like ohh ****. Are you taking a swipe at Tristan?

Jill

Tristan is gone. Ohh, do you think it was like actually?

Quinny

I’m almost 100.

Speaker 8

Quinny

Percent sure they are, because like.

Dion

Come on, let’s be honest. They’re taking a swipe at whoever is anywhere near anything.

Quinny

Yeah. Oh, yeah, like.

Dion

They’re not. It’s it’s a shotgun effect. It’s they’re they’re not sort of sitting there going. Oh, no, we’ll, we’ll, we’ll use the scalpel on this one. And the scalpel on that one, it’s like. You know like. Who’s talking in this space that we can sort of base a few characters around? Yeah, that’s a. Bit of a thing off we go.

Quinny

Yeah, I don’t know. But also the fact that like where they kind of placed it at the end of that, the AI ethicists are actually the bad people. You’re like.

Speaker

Hmm.

Dion

Don’t worry though, if don’t worry if the big.

Jill

You they kind of subverted their whole message.

Quinny

Yeah, yeah, totally sure. What you’re saying here, folks?

Dion

If the. Don’t worry, don’t worry if the big, beautiful bill passes, then we’ll have 10 years of sorry, 12 years of unregulated AI stuff in America. So why regulate something if you don’t understand it?

Speaker 4

Ohh.

Dion

Yeah. I know, right?

Quinny

You know, let’s let’s send Miss Reagan to to alligator Auschwitz and she can, like, dance around through the.

Dion

Screen. That’s how it should be called I think. Sorry.

Jill

Yeah, they’re calling it our first cleaning.

Dion

Alligator, Alcatraz.

Quinny

Yeah, that’s what.

Speaker

They’re called.

Quinny

What they’re calling it, I’ve seen the.

Dion

Yeah, yeah.

Quinny

Photos that shoots out.

Dion

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We all know what this is, right? Right. Yeah.

Quinny

Like the literally, I watched a ******* speech from DJ. He talking about? Ohh yeah. We’ll let people out on day release to farms. I’m like that’s slavery.

Dion

That’s worse. That’s worse, Ryan. OK. Although predicting, thank you for updating me there. Apparently, it has been that that provision was was struck off. So I don’t know, maybe sure.

Speaker 7

Hmm.

Quinny

Sure. Ohh Aski has an idea and I do quite like Meghan goes into Tron. OK. Yep. And and then she can.

Jill

Yeah.

Quinny

Fight Jared Leto.

Dion

Yeah, betrogen. No, but do you know what that? Would do that would be. Because then it would. It would gasify Tron. Be like pink, pink light cycles and things going just just in.

Quinny

Just the right light up.

Dion

Yeah, she’s just she’s just throwing producer money at her. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly how much go for it, actually, to be fair. Yeah. Kind of a Yas. Tron would be a fun aside.

Quinny

Yeah, make it happen to Disney.

Jill

Gastro.

Quinny

The queer eye for the Tron. Guy.

Dion

Yeah, Jared, you’re looking so weird and and orange. It’s the old color. We need pink, pink everywhere. Let’s go. Like you know.

Quinny

Yeah, I would watch that.

Dion

Yeah. Yes, there we go.

Jill

Honey, you’re a winter, not a summer.

Quinny

And the more I think about the first Megan, the more I go. God, I really enjoyed that film. Yeah. And the more I think God, this film was kind of dopey.

Dion

Yeah. Also like, I mean, I. You know, talking about the way that they presented this to it’s like the villain of it is like, oh, it’s just this sorry we we created an assassin bot and it’s gone rogue and now it’s trying to do something and it’s kind of a bit like, so what’s it trying to do? Oh, well, we can’t really tell you till later in the film. And then we’ll explain sort of things. That has to do with photocopiers, and that’s a real plot point. Sorry, but you know, you’ve got this. It doesn’t actually make it like it’s not as bad as you.

Quinny

You know like.

Dion

There’s no great villain there. There’s like in this. It’s easy, it’s cause like, well, Megan’s the murderbot. So she’s bad. And this one, it’s like, OK, are they really bad? Is anyone really bad? Who’s the actual bad person here? And it’s like, no, no, no. Just give us our hat to hang it on. That’s all we’re after. We need a bad thing. Stop the bad thing. We don’t need the twists and the turns.

Speaker

Hmm.

Quinny

Yes. Yeah, and the the familial relationship between Gemma and and Katie like that. I was able to hang my head on that. For a lot more like. That still works, and there are actually a couple of bits in there that I really enjoyed. There was 1 moment that I was like oh ******* hell. Where like they they go into a bunker or something like that. And Katie’s cracked the ***** with Gemma. She ever tries to hold her hand, and then Katie just ******* jujitsu’s the **** out of her. And I was like, oh, oh, nice. Oh, sorry. Aikido.

Jill

Yeah.

Speaker

Yeah.

Dion

Sorry, which we all know is in a real martial art.

Quinny

Is coming for you right now. Yeah, well. You’ll be here in like 5 to 7.

Dion

Years. I always say that to the Aikido people. Like what are you going to do? Wait to redirect my energy? Just trying to start a fight. It’s all right.

Quinny

It’s never gonna work with my Peter.

Dion

No, exactly.

Speaker

Just.

Quinny

I’m gonna slap your hands.

Dion

Wait. Sorry.

Quinny

Anyway, yeah, like there there are. There are moments in there. There are relationships in there that work, but I feel like.

Jill

Yeah, I think there is definitely a better film that could have been made instead of pandering to the audience. I think wanted this movie, yeah.

Quinny

Yeah, I did see an interview briefly with the producer of it who is. So the other thing we haven’t actually mentioned the film. Has tanked really badly.

Jill

Oh.

Quinny

Yeah, like it has not done anything like the numbers they expected. And the producer was saying, yeah, we we probably followed the wrong directions and we have made wrong choices. And yeah, I’ve had a bad weekend.

Jill

Ohh.

Quinny

Which I I feel bad for them because. It must be really hard when you’ve had a massive success. To go. OK. What are the things that worked?

Jill

Here’s what I’ll give you for free, I bet you. All the money in the world, it was a team of white, straight CIS men that decided to write this film. They were like. Oh, OK. Well, if the gays and the girls love this, then let’s just do more of that and they’ll have absolutely like, no. Perspective around what actually made it good in the first place.

Quinny

Yeah, there is. So one of the writers of Aquila Cooper who wrote malignant. But yeah, you have a couple of writers, Gerard Johnson and James Wan.

Jill

James 1 you. Should have ******* known better bro like.

Quinny

He really ******* should have.

Jill

Yeah, cause yeah, he was on the first one as well and like that movie was such a sigh. But this one was just like.

Dion

It feels I know so like it does feel like they as you said it might not.

Jill

Away shante.

Speaker 8

Sashay away.

Dion

They might have fed too much, you know, RuPaul’s Drag Race into the idea. Shut out engine.

Jill

Yeah, 100%.

Quinny

Algorithm.

Dion

Yeah. And I do feel like you’ve got, it’s like a lot more complicated like in the first one, it’s pretty, it’s a pretty simplistic plot, you know? Yeah, it’s not too. It’s not too hard. This one feels like it’s like, oh, we’re going to get way more complicated. It’s bigger. It’s everything we’re going to treat this as a whole thing. You know, she’s now a, you know, internationally recognized. But on these things. You know, the whole thing wasn’t just swept under the rug. It like, you know, the first movie, the the stuff became an international in like, news story and all that kind of. Thing and I’m like, yeah. But no, sometimes it’s better to just be a bit smaller and a bit tighter like. I mean, it could have just been a whole thing of Megan trying to get her body back after being existing. In all these things, and they did have a few notes about that in this film, but I it jumped the shark for me when it went to like, how does Megan Switch herself around in between things? And I was like, wow, this makes. Absolutely no sense.

Jill

Yeah, they could have saved the military grade. Megan’s. For the third movie.

Dion

Sure. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Jill

Just build to it. Don’t do it. Don’t go.

Dion

Yeah, yeah, I know. But I mean, you know, like when at what point are we getting to the underground? Club of Megan’s.

Jill

Yeah.

Speaker

Never.

Jill

Yeah, full read. Never go full R word.

Quinny

Yeah, no. True, no.

Dion

Fight Club never go full Fight Club.

Quinny

And this film didn’t. Yet. No. Yeah. OK. Should we rate it? I do. There are a couple of little things I want to talk about in the spoils.

Dion

Yeah, sure. Runtime question that was in there. Yeah, 100. And 20 minutes it didn’t feel over long.

Quinny

To me, I don’t know. No, I was watching it and I I I kind of got to the the third act and I was ready for it to be done. Sure, you know.

Speaker 7

The world.

Quinny

Like I I all I wanted a big enough twist in that third act to make it worthwhile, and I didn’t really get it, so I was like.

Dion

Mean we you know.

Speaker

Sure.

Dion

Well, I mean, yeah, alright. Do you have an idea of ratings? Has anyone said in the chat? Check it, check the. Rating in there you.

Quinny

Yeah. If you’ve seen, it’s put a number, I will look for the number with the the 100 symbol because it helps me.

Dion

I’m going. I was lower and then I raised it back up a couple of notches because a couple of the times I went, that’s actually quite generally funny.

Speaker

To. Work out.

Dion

And especially 1 gag, which I was like. Ohh no, this is the worst. And then by the end of the gag, I was like it. Got better over time. It aged in the moment.

Speaker 7

It.

Dion

It aged in the moment and I went. That’s actually really ******* funny. Like it was awkward and awful and cringe for like 3 minutes and then by.

Speaker

Yes.

Speaker 4

I was like, I’m never doing it again.

Dion

The end of it I was like ohh this.

Speaker 7

Is all they all they just leave.

Speaker 8

And I’m like, actually, yeah, they they held it and you had to keep keep.

Dion

Yeah, don’t you? Don’t you dare go to the ******* chorus. Jill. So. So yeah, mine was lower and now it’s come back up to 60. 5:00 that’s fine.

Speaker

Yeah.

Quinny

OK, down as in as a 65, OK.

Jill

Oh wow. I gave. Megan won 90 last time. I really ******* loved it.

Dion

Wow. Yes, yeah.

Quinny

Yeah.

Jill

I still enjoyed this. Movie. I’m not gonna be ashamed about enjoying the movie like, especially because it it pandered to my tastes. The only thing that disappointed me was that there was not one horror element left in it, and that was the whole point of it being so great the.

Quinny

Don’t don’t be.

Dion

No.

Speaker 4

Yeah.

Jill

This time. So I mean, I still I. Still loved it. The characters are great. Megan is fantastic, the jokes were dumb. I I lived. Maybe a 75? OK, this time, yeah. If they had had, like, if it was still a true horror film, it would. Probably be another. 90 again but.

Speaker

Yes.

Quinny

Yeah, I’m. I’m. I’m probably gonna. Yeah. Split. No, actually, no. I’m going to close the deal on this one. Like. Yeah, I I. It’s so frustrating watching something where you can see the elements of something really fun and then go. Why did. Where, where, where. Did that go like? Where’s the tension? Where’s the the scares? Where’s the anything that feels slightly? Horrific or, you know, any of that and also, you know, as you said, you know, including shin hottie in there basically means that like if she’s meant to be the scary thing. Then use her as the the scary thing. But she’s not scary.

Jill

No, she’s just sexy and I’m like, can she stalk me?

Quinny

So sexy.

Dion

Yeah, yeah.

Quinny

I would, yes are you? Are you?

Dion

A guard.

Quinny

I’ll I’ll get. I’ll get chest and and Abby implants too, so. So yeah, I’m. I’m down with dark and I’m about. I’m a 65 as well. I it’s OK, but it’s not a patch on the 1st. 1. And there are a couple of points where I was like, I don’t even remember where Megan got damaged, but then she shows up with the horror of, you know, melted face and stuff. And I was like. Doesn’t feel earned. Doesn’t feel like you know. We. God. Yeah, it’s just, it’s just missing stuff.

Jill

I don’t know. Yeah, they tried to turn. Everything into a gag.

Quinny

They really did. They really, really did. OK, right. We have a a clippity Doo dah or something like.

Dion

We’ve got an extra long clip that I’m going to play the entire thing of, and this is after Miss Reagan has been upgraded. So now she knows Kung Fu.

Speaker

Speaker 1

Just wanted to say great job on those actuators.

Speaker

You’re welcome.

Speaker 1

Hey, so remember the time I strangled you and said the lab on fire? I just wanted to clarify that my programming only allowed me to count principles related to my primary user. As a result, I was unable to see you and Tess as being consequential. But I want you to know that won’t happen again. I want you to know. I see you.

Dion

Is she or? Is she not going to be murder? But again find out more when you go and see Miss Reagan. I’m putting this whole thing up. There we go. Perfect. Covering anyone thing. Yeah.

Jill

All right, we’re all dying to ******* talk about it.

Quinny

What the **** was up with the singing? The musical number that you’re just.

Speaker 8

Like.

Jill

Yeah, yeah, we got a an amazing rendition of titanium in the first film.

Quinny

Hmm.

Jill

Yeah. And this time around we got a bit. Of Kate Bush.

Dion

Redeemed.

Quinny

I didn’t recognize and I. Was just like, what are we? Singing here.

Dion

But I mean like that, that was a joke that I saw like that came up and that’s the one where I’m like, yeah, this is not great. This is just awful. What are they trying to do here? And then they really like, it’s it. I think that’s like a metaphysical like, you know, they’ve they’ve got the meta of this, it’s gone through and they know the inside the actual scene. They’re like this is. ******* terrible.

Speaker

Yeah. Yeah, what?

Speaker 4

Are you doing? Yeah.

Quinny

Yeah, yeah. And we’re we’re gonna keep it going to make it uncomfortable. And now it’s funny. Uncomfortable. Yeah.

Dion

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 7

And.

Dion

Yeah, look.

Jill

Come on. The whole cinema laughed when that.

Dion

Oh yeah, for that one, I was just thinking, man, photocopiers. Why the **** a photocopier is the worst thing? OK, that felt like a gag out of someone who’s like, oh, we saw office space, and we hate printers and stuff, right? So what if we made the actual villain of this entire thing a photocopier? That’s basically been kept at a gulag and is now the worst thing in the plan.

Jill

Ohh. Yeah, that was strange.

Quinny

Strange. Yeah. I mean, though technically not even a photocopier, it was just rob. It was rob from Nintendo.

Jill

Is that true that if you isolate like an AI from anything, it just grows smarter? Like to me that sounds like the complete and. To the system.

Speaker

What would actually happen?

Quinny

It was such periodic concept. That you know. Ohh it’s been left alone. So it’s just gotten more and more dangerous. I’m like, no, it would just be running exactly the same process as over and over and over.

Jill

Also, why is it? Why is it connected to any kind of power?

Dion

Yeah. Just turn it.

Quinny

On using it forward. And and that was the moment the Superman 3 moment where, like, they finally connect to the the black box or whatever the **** it was called. Motherboard. I don’t know. Yeah, the motherboard. And I was like, ohh cool. We gotta get a like. I was really hoping for a weird Superman 3 ******* like.

Dion

Yeah.

Quinny

Electrical **** coming out and overtaking people and like, you know, go full body horror, go a little bit of ******* Cronenberg, you know, really delve deep into the the the almost like. It’s the kind of **** if you’ve set up this horrific AI that has just been stewing in its own evil for 40 years. Then make that some cosmic horror ****. Don’t just make it shin hottie with glowing eyes. I was like, come on, **** sake. Yeah, disappointing. Got very, very angry at that bit.

Jill

Yeah, it was.

Speaker

Strange. And it was, yeah.

Dion

You know, it’s sad that like they made like some of the returning the returning supporting. Cast was also great. Yeah, like their interactions were still good and they were the voice of reason, which is all the audience going. What the **** are you doing? Why you’re even interacting with this thing that tried to kill everyone. UM. And then they try like they do that where, like putting it into that weird robo body, the little kind of one that was, that was actually a cute and fun way of doing that. And then that thing did nothing. And they immediately skipped past that. They moved all the jokes or anything you could have done with it, you know.

Speaker

Ohh yeah. Hmm. Yeah.

Dion

Fun you could have had tough. Yeah. If you have had it. Like in that way.

Quinny

I thought that was going to be half the film.

Dion

For half the film, sure.

Quinny

Again that, yeah.

Jill

Yeah, then earn upgrade.

Quinny

Yeah. Yeah. And there was, there was a moment of something that they used that I was like, actually that’s kind of creepy and cool. There was a moment where they’ve been working on a, like, a exosuit that that, you know, helps people move and. And you know, that’s what they’re trying to move people around. And at one point that becomes animated by itself by, you know, something inside it. And I was like, that would have been *******.

Speaker 1

Yippee.

Quinny

You know, in a dark house, this thing that’s coming towards you that moves in completely in human ways.

Jill

If 2/3 of the movie was Megan jumping around things trying to get a new body, and then you pay it off in the third act, you give her a body and she defeats the bad guy that would have.

Dion

Yeah.

Quinny

**** yeah.

Jill

Worked. So much better than giving her a body at the end of the first act.

Quinny

Yeah, like she she goes through, like, cute little body. Then she goes her own half rebuilt.

Jill

Or if she started out in the weird like exoskeleton thing and then it’s like, Oh my God, it’s Megan. And she’s, like, trying to kill.

Quinny

And then.

Jill

People and. ****. Yeah, and.

Quinny

Yeah.

Jill

Then give her the harmless one. There’s no arm.

Quinny

And.

Dion

Yeah, I’m trying to remember.

Quinny

So much of that would be much more entertaining.

Speaker

A bit.

Dion

The film upgrade, but I was thinking more of like, do you remember the film, the horror film hardware from the 80s?

Speaker

Hmm.

Dion

You know which was about a, you know, a robot that slowly rebuilds itself out of. Junk. All right.

Jill

Ohh ******* poltergeist like.

Speaker

Yeah.

Jill

You.

Dion

Know yeah that like.

Jill

Possessing inanimate objects.

Quinny

Yeah, like they, they, they, they’ve forgotten the face of their fathers. They have forgotten where they came from. And you know, that’s what.

Jill

The horror films that paved the way? Yeah.

Dion

I mean, they feel like they. Had when they were doing the ideation for and they’re writing all the scenes and they’re thinking about the action pieces that they can have with it. It’s like, great, you’ve got enough content. There. For about what 5 movies? If you, but if you just took each one of those and gone hey. Yeah, exoskeleton version, then you know weird cutesy robot version then like oh body rebuilt version. It’s like great. That’s actually separate.

Jill

Yeah, exactly.

Dion

With cool, creepy things you could do along the way to to to make all that and include that kind of crazy sense of humour. And, you know, sassy attitude.

Jill

Yeah, what if they stumbled upon, you know, Megan rebuilding herself and she’s like, you know, that half created corpse dragging along the.

Dion

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4

Floor.

Dion

Exactly who wanted to play a tea party with a little girl? That that’s all she is in her brain. And she’s like I’m 43 years old.

Jill

Kind of. Horror motif.

Speaker 7

I’m not a little.

Dion

Girl anymore. You know, it’s kind of. Like ohh.

Jill

Yeah, they took the cheap way out. I.

Quinny

Think. Yeah. And they went for. Yeah, suffication. And they went for superheroes and they went and.

Dion

I feel like I feel like. They didn’t go for yes vacation. They went for merchandising opportunities.

Quinny

Yeah, yeah.

Dion

You. Know.

Speaker

Yeah.

Jill

The marketing team wrote the movie.

Dion

Yeah, I feel like a little like it looked like, you know, Megan had enough versions in the sequel that you’re like, ohh, that’s an action figure line.

Quinny

Yeah. So we’ve, we’ve, we’ve got sci-fi Robo doll. Megan, we’ve got, like, original Megan Reed rebuilt. We’ve got.

Dion

Assassin Amelia, Cyber Amelia, you know.

Quinny

Yeah. Yeah, motherboard God. Amelia. Amelia.

Dion

Or, you know, low jacking the brain implant. Megan, which is actually.

Quinny

Hmm yeah. Once again and there was an idea when Megan Labor, I love it, but.

Jill

That’s the one in the. Squirrel outfit, where she’s flying into the Silicon Valley.

Quinny

See and that was the whole number where I went. What the **** did we just become? Like, you know, Tom Cruise. At what point in time did Megan have to become Tom?

Dion

Yeah, exactly.

Jill

She’s a robot. She doesn’t show up on anything. Why is she flying in stealth mission?

Speaker 8

Like.

Quinny

It was dumb. It was just. It’s too dumb. Was Benoit Blunt dumb? Ohhh yeah. But yeah, like on a on a very surface level. Yeah. OK, that’s fun. Yeah, great. But it’s not because it’s dumb and it doesn’t add up to anything. And there are so many better ideas out there. Why aren’t they hiring us?

Dion

I don’t know. Corny start pitching them and then.

Quinny

I guess the well used to be. Have somebody who’s very good at pitching on our team, so maybe we.

Dion

Should, couldn’t you start writing it? Then you hand that writing over to Jill, Jill, Yasir, fly. The **** out of.

Jill

It. Yeah, it’s not within an inch.

Dion

I’ll I’ll add.

Jill

Of its life.

Dion

Yeah. And then she’ll give it to me and I’ll Add all the things that the executives want to cut out so that they feel like they’ve done something. And then we should be able to get it through, no worries. And then Peter, Peter will take all those ideas, screw them up, throw them away and make something worthy. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Quinny

Sweet, so. Actual thing that it’s doing.

Dion

That has nothing to do with killer robots and more stuff to do with. I don’t know crocodiles. Yeah. And like, sure environment. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Worthwhile. Projects.

Quinny

Dion

Well, you know, look, hey, that’s. All I’ve got to say about methadone.

Quinny

So I’m I’m very excited cause what are we doing next week? Folks.

Dion

Next week, you mean for the show or next week for the screening next next Wednesday special time again next Wednesday or we are going back to Dinotopia. That’s right. They made a movie about the Dinotopia books which are quite excellent. So all of those things here now is it seventh film in the franchise of Jurassic something.

Speaker

Yes. Mm-hmm.

Quinny

All I need to know, yes, this is the I I haven’t seen it yet because I came down sick and couldn’t go to the screening.

Dion

Don’t worry, we went for. You.

Quinny

Thank you. Thank you very much. Are they doing Dino riders yet? *************.

Dion

No.

Quinny

Like I don’t understand why this is so hard.

Jill

There’s some Dinos right in the.

Dion

Yeah.

Quinny

Actually, so uncomfortable with that.

Dion

I mean, there was also a lot of.

Jill

And yeah, Karina’s just said Jonathan Bailey’s ****** little glasses pressed to her. Even those ****** little glasses could not save this film.

Speaker 7

Although also next Wednesday, Jill hold hold off for for that one. Yeah. Yeah. Next week.

Quinny

Oh, oh, cards on the table early.

Jill

Everyone knows my love for wanton dinosaur destruction.

Dion

Yeah, it’s, it’s, it’s.

Speaker

Yep.

Quinny

I’m and I’m wanton dinosaur.

Jill

Destruction. Yeah, I I, yeah. Still want it.

Dion

Sure. I mean, we’ll do all that and more next Wednesday, but because we’re not, we’re doing it Wednesday because on Tuesday, what are we?

Speaker 4

We’re gonna watch. Yes.

Dion

Which is save us. Save us James Gunn, save.

Quinny

Very excited about that.

Speaker

Us.

Quinny

Just looking forward to Nathan Fillion’s Bowl cut more than.

Dion

Who knows? Who knows what that’s gonna be?

Quinny

Anything.

Speaker 4

Going to. Is he?

Jill

Playing guy Gardner.

Quinny

100%. How have you missed this job?

Jill

I keep saying I got it in the trailer, but I didn’t realize. It was nice.

Quinny

And when you look at it, you like, oh, that’s actually pretty. Much perfect for Guy Gardner.

Dion

Yeah. Yeah. And as long as he’s a complete ****.

Quinny

Yep, yeah. Have you seen the videos where he’s using his ring constructs as just big middle fingers?

Dion

Gotta be he just has to be. I’m like no.

Jill

Ohh God, I’m going to like this movie, aren’t.

Quinny

I I’m looking forward to it, if nothing else, just because there’s a whole bunch of ******* crypto.

Dion

We’ll see. And then at the end.

Quinny

And.

Dion

Of. The month? Yeah. At the end of the month. Don’t forget we’re doing the movie. That’s out today on Netflix, which is the old guard too.

Quinny

Good God, yes.

Dion

Yeah. There you go. You got your homework. Got your stuff there. Hey, just before we all end up, I just want to get a quick, quick litmus test. How are we all feeling about the running man trailer?

Quinny

Yep, Yep. Plenty of stuff out there.

Dion

Oh. Oh, wait, wait, wait. Jill.

Jill

I’ve been doing work at work, which sucks so.

Dion

Did.

Speaker

Well.

Speaker 7

More full you work.

Quinny

Are you at home, which sucks too?

Dion

Yeah, you should just have a window open on your computer that can hide quickly when someone walks past you with trailers running constantly.

Speaker

Do. Hmm.

Jill

How can I hear them?

Dion

One earpod like thing that’s.

Speaker 4

In there. Ohh Glenn Powell.

Quinny

Yes.

Dion

Did you watch the 80s? One Schwarzenegger running man.

Speaker 4

Maybe.

Dion

He’s a convict. He’s being chased down by Dynamo. And change does or and.

Quinny

You. You. Yeah. I was gonna say.

Dion

Like a bunch of 80s wrestlers are the villains in it who are like who have been Yasir fried and have come out and try to hunt down on Schwarzenegger.

Quinny

Exactly. It’s.

Dion

You’ll you’ll love it.

Quinny

It’s very 80s WWF like animal and hawk, ******* the The Undertaker and all that kind of stuff.

Dion

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Quinny

But the idea being that, yeah, this guy has signed up or has been essentially press ganged into participating in this televised Death Race. Yeah, where? Yeah. American Gladiators chase you all over the place and try. And kill you for real, yeah.

Dion

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And instead of just knock you out, they actually literally cut you and have the chainsaw.

Quinny

And it’s all televised. Yeah. Yeah. So it’s. Yeah. It’s based on Richard Backman book, Our Last Stephen King. Yep. And the original always had a bit of a kind of a darker, more kind of like, social commentary thing of like.

Jill

My cup of tea.

Speaker

Hmm.

Quinny

Could you imagine where our world gotten so bad that people take?

Dion

We’ll do this.

Quinny

A gig. You know where they just possibly get hunted down. But if they survive, they get all the money in the.

Speaker

Yeah.

Quinny

World or whatever. And that was before reality TV became the yeah. Yes, exactly. Like I love that Stephen King was like, oh, this is just reality TV before. OK.

Jill

Dion

Funnily enough, one of the one. Of the things I actually read the.

Quinny

You you have.

Dion

I watched the movie and I read the book and the book has a. Much different ending. Which is way, way ******* darker. Yeah, but now Edgar Wright is remaking the running man, and it’s Glenn Powell. And Glen Powell has been kind of again, press gangle set up to be in this game, and the game is the same sort of thing. But in this world. Of the current state, which is constant surveillance, people around you all the time, everyone has phones and everyone is playing like they’ve got some hunters that are trying to kill you. But if you feed the information of the location to the whereabouts of this person to a hunter, you can win money too.

Jill

Ohh.

Dion

So everyone’s on the hunt for you and you just have to survive 36 hours. That’s it.

Quinny

The the unfortunate thing is now looking at the State of America and like, yeah, you know, ice and stuff. I’m like, oh, ****, this is it’s kind of a little. Bit. ******* close, yeah.

Dion

Yep, I feel like it’s it’s we’re we’re six months away from this actually being a new thing.

Quinny

Mm-hmm. I’m just, yeah, worried that people are gonna go. Let’s do that. Let’s. Do that as as an actor. We’ll see.

Dion

But not here. We haven’t got there that just.

Quinny

No. Yet no, no, we’re we’re, we’re.

Dion

We’re doing OK. Hey, at the moment, look in in in NSW, the rain has stopped. It’s the the the cyclone bomb hasn’t been too bad and the sun’s out. So everything’s great. Peachy keen.

Quinny

Yeah. Yeah, we’re doing alright. You guys doing OK seeing you for.

Dion

Happy days.

Speaker

Yeah, we’re doing that.

Quinny

Dion

A while I don’t know. You’ve been where? D&D’s.

Quinny

Ohh yeah, actually I do want to give a little bit of a shout out to the the wonderful critters of Australia so.

Dion

Like echidnas and.

Quinny

Yep, drop beers. Tie pens.

Dion

Koalas. Kangaroos.

Quinny

Yeah, but yeah, no. Like, I went down to Melbourne last week, which is why I couldn’t do the show to go to.

Dion

And probably where you got.

Quinny

Yes, it’s possibility because that’s where I got the ropes.

Speaker

Sorry to know.

Dion

Anyone else who went to Melbourne to Rod Laver Arena last week? It’s Quinny Quinn gave. You COVID? Yep, all 11,000.

Quinny

Of you. I’m sorry. Sorry. Yeah, but yeah, it was. It was lovely. And, you know another 5 hour show of D&D, which was very entertaining. And Tom Cardy was very, very good. He did both shows very, very entertaining. Held his own against, you know, people who have been doing this for 10 years. And yeah, there’s nothing quite like seeing 11,000 ******* Dean Dean, nerds singing along to a, you know, a song and shining all their lights. It was it was like going to a massive music concert. But you watch them do maths on stage. Like at one point I’m pretty sure somebody was like adding up this goals and was like. 11,000 people watching me do maths. This is like every nightmare. I’ve ever had.

Dion

That’s good.

Quinny

Yeah. And we saw Tari, who was in the chat before. But I don’t think he’s there anymore. Yeah, and.

Dion

Ohh.

Quinny

You got a pretty unitary. Pretty kangaroo in Sydney, Tara and Melbourne caught up with some friends, had a lovely time. Generally it was ******* delightful and I have been paying for it ever since it’s been so.

Speaker

No.

Dion

Excellent.

Quinny

I’ve been watching a lot of TV. I watched weird TV show called Scavengers Reign and everybody should check it out. Actually, no, I’m I’m not going to say that. It is the weirdest ******* animated series I’ve ever watched and. It’s. I I have a thing called trypophobia. Where you know, seeing holes and uneven patterns and stuff like that creeps me the **** out. This show is just all that. It’s just Cronenberg body horror, ******* weird, alien mushroom, creepy. Oddness. But it’s really quite cool. Like very slow burn. Very weird. Have you ever seen the art of Mobius, the French designer?

Jill

Right.

Dion

Yes, I know of moob the moob.

Quinny

Yeah, it’s. It’s like a lot of that anyway. No, I didn’t go to the Lego Star Wars exhibition. I’m sorry.

Dion

How dare you? You’re not one of us anymore, Connie. I’m looking forward to going seeing some soccer soon. Oh.

Jill

Yes, we yes off to see Wrexham. I have, yes.

Quinny

Ohh Yep. Have you watched the last of the episodes? Of this season.

Dion

I have not. Yeah, I have not. Yeah. And Jill, you going to get your wrestle on soon?

Jill

Try again, yes. I am. I got *******.

Speaker 4

Tickets to ******* WWE.

Jill

In October, I’m going to smack down. I’m going to crown jewel. I’m going to roar. **** yeah.

Dion

Nice.

Quinny

That’s so cool. Where’s that on here in Sydney?

Jill

Or no? Is it the RC in Perth?

Speaker 7

Oh.

Quinny

They often go to Perth. I don’t know why.

Jill

Because they have a three-year contract with WA government.

Quinny

Ohh, I always wondered why like because that’s a long ******* way to go.

Speaker

Yeah.

Dion

Yes, but also the WA government has money and also all of the FIFO workers over there probably really do like the.

Speaker 7

Wrestling that’s be honest.

Quinny

Yeah, yeah. True.

Dion

That’s that thing.

Quinny

We’re well and truly down for.

Dion

That’s creating a stereotype and I’m like, I don’t care to that.

Quinny

That.

Jill

Very, very excited, though it was a little bit of a Taylor Swift moment trying to get the tickets. Ohh, we got them. We got the.

Quinny

There.

Dion

Got the tickets.

Quinny

Well done.

Dion

Yeah, and that’s just trying think what else is coming out this week? Ohh, naked gun at the end of the month and Fantastic Four. So.

Quinny

Yeah, and and our, our, we are definitely keen to try and sort out Fantastic Four but yeah, we’ll we’ll see what happens like.

Dion

Yeah, we’ll see what happens. Who knows, there’s currently. There’s currently rumours that Pedro Pascal might even be here for the premier, which is making everyone panic. That who? Yeah, like I don’t.

Jill

Get the *******.

Quinny

So so if if he’s here for the premiere, we probably won’t be going to the screening.

Dion

No, we won’t be able to get within 400 kilometres of the screening cause of. Gaming.

Quinny

Yeah, ohh all of them are. Coming for it. Yeah, I. Mean we’re definitely not going to Australia.

Dion

No. Yeah. Maybe we will. Who? Who? Who knows? Like, you know, they’re just gonna do their thing.

Quinny

Put the request in but you know.

Dion

Yeah. Who? Who knows?

Quinny

Pretty Kangas you said. Yeah, strange new worlds coming back at the end of the week. End of the month.

Jill

Ohh no I have to resub to. Paramount back.

Quinny

Yeah.

Dion

Yeah. Yeah, that’s it. And also off, that’s like Foundation Foundation season is coming.

Quinny

Yes, your metal. Yeah, enjoying that?

Speaker 7

I like.

Dion

It fine.

Speaker 7

And.

Quinny

I know that’s your your old man so far that you’re into.

Dion

Leave me alone. We’re all fine.

Quinny

Yeah, as always, there’s plenty of stuff coming out. Yeah. Yeah. Many season 2. I I feel deeply ******* conflicted about Sandman season 2.

Dion

Everyone is including everyone who made.

Quinny

It yeah, like I’ve I’m watching the cast kind of go. Hey, I did a lot of work. Here it is, and I’d love it if you’d. Watch it. Yeah, well.

Speaker

Oh.

Dion

One of the good I think one of the nicest things about everyone involved with The Sandman season 2 of that, they’ve all gone, Oh my God, it would be really lovely if you watch it. But if you can’t, we understand. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They have. No one is coming out and going. It’s weird that you won’t watch it. They’re all like, no, no, we get it.

Quinny

Yeah.

Speaker 7

Oh.

Quinny

We get it. Yeah, yeah.

Dion

We get it.

Quinny

But also, I mean, he’s also done a a fairly significant job of divorcing himself from that production and a bunch of other stuff. Yeah, but I’m guessing he still makes money. Off it so well.

Jill

It’s like a JK Rowling thing.

Speaker

OK, rolling.

Quinny

Yeah, they’re like JK Rowling’s. Is an even bigger ***** ** ****.

Speaker

Yeah.

Jill

Tell you what though, the plot in Sanctuary Moon on murder bots getting interesting.

Speaker 4

Dion

Do you know what I haven’t actually gone back? I have to go back. I’m going to go for season 6, so episode 6.

Quinny

Of the season, so I have to go back and no watch it. I watched a couple more on the weekend because I was like, Yep, let’s get it into me while I’m sick. Let’s get that into my eyes even though they.

Jill

Yes, watch the next one.

Quinny

Very exciting. I watch sinners.

Jill

Ohh, also bizarre twist ending at the end of Squid Game season 3.

Quinny

Oh, haven’t watched that yet.

Speaker 4

Ah.

Dion

An over squid game. It’s too commercial.

Quinny

Well.

Jill

******* cross. God, it’s great.

Speaker

Ah.

Speaker 8

I loved it.

Jill

Except for the weird last.

Speaker 8

60 sections. I will tell you after.

Quinny

Much.

Dion

Much like much like 28.

Jill

The stream in. Case anybody in the chat wants to watch it? I. I him.

Quinny

Don’t want to spoil it for? Actually no, I think that’s a good idea because it’s. Only just come out and I’ve got.

Dion

Much like 28 years, 28 years later, which is like, oh, that was a weird last three minutes. ********. But Jill is just going to do this.

Quinny

Yeah, ******* glad that there’s a sequel to that coming out.

Dion

Straight away now, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe’s gonna do this because she’s gonna go. She hasn’t watched any of the 28th yet, so we’re gonna make sure she watches all 5 films in a row.

Quinny

Oh, right.

Dion

Yeah, and she knows all about it. The first one is is is funny, and then the second one is a big deviation. But we go there, it’s fine.

Jill

I mean for some homeless.

Quinny

Not entirely sure that I go that the first one is funny. But there you know.

Jill

There you go. What age to their own?

Quinny

See.

Dion

No, no, 28 days, 28 days.

Speaker

Later. Ohh.

Dion

28 weeks later, 28 years later.

Jill

That’s always confused about being 5 films.

Speaker 7

That’s what I. Said wait, no, no, no, no.

Dion

No, there’s there’s a. Point to this.

Quinny

The one playing the long game in common.

Speaker

Yeah.

Dion

Yes, yes, Karina.

Quinny

Yes, the joke. Did I have brain fog something fierce?

Dion

I know you weren’t even here for the podcast. We made those jokes already.

Quinny

Yeah, I I haven’t even listened to it yet, and I’m sorry. I will though, because I do want to hear what you thought of Last of Us season 2. Oh.

Jill

With it.

Speaker

Yeah.

Dion

Not a fan.

Quinny

Right. Interesting news that came out today, though, that Neil. Ruckman has dropped off. That’s right. Very worrying years.

Speaker 4

Me. Me. Why, Neil, it’s your baby. What?

Quinny

I don’t know and it’s steered. I with that’s the thing that worries me because like you look at in the past of when people like key creators have dropped off and it’s usually been because of creative differences. And I’m like, do not **** with that like.

Jill

Yeah, I feel like.

Quinny

Well, most of us part. 2 is very ******* tightly balanced. And if you **** ** that balance, you’re going to make it real ***** ** ****.

Jill

Yeah, I thought like Neil and Craig were like really same page about.

Quinny

Same. Yeah. OK. He wants to focus on Naughty Dog projects. OK, that’s cool.

Speaker 4

Yeah. OK.

Speaker

But.

Dion

Drama.

Jill

Yeah.

Speaker

Hmm.

Jill

As long as like they go to him with like for. Input or whatever.

Quinny

Well, yeah, I hope so. I mean maybe.

Jill

As long as it’s not ohh he left because because he was conflicting with what they wanted to do or anything like that. It’s not.

Quinny

Maybe they’ve written the scripts and he’s like. Yeah, maybe. Maybe he’s left left because he’s like, well, I’ve done my job. You’ve got the scripts. You’re fine.

Jill

Yeah, maybe. Or maybe he’s just like Craig. I trust you completely. Like do this.

Quinny

That would be nice. Yeah. Fingers crossed anyway.

Speaker

Hmm.

Speaker 7

All right. Thanks everyone.

Quinny

Yeah. Thank you. Thank you for everything joining us.

Dion

On this weird Thursday night that was really nice. Like, sorry, we threw out your schedule and it’s a bit. Weird for this month, that’s OK.

Quinny

I’m sorry I didn’t tell you until half an hour before. It came in. That’s right.

Dion

No, we’re all good. We’re all here. Is it there? It’s. It’s only one more day left. Yeah. Remember, the week’s almost over. It’s Friday. Tomorrow.

Speaker

****.

Dion

Or for one day, if we’re going through this whole friggin thing.

Jill

Yeah, I’m not going off early tomorrow.

Dion

Yeah.

Speaker 4

Poets.

Dion

Ohh it’s day.

Quinny

Yeah, I’ve. I’ve been having the last like I did a full day yesterday and regretted it because I’m still ******* sick, like and today I I hit 230 and I was like.

Jill

Yeah.

Dion

I’m.

Quinny

Going to lie down for a bit and then watch them at 3:00.

Dion

Sounds a good time. All right, everyone.

Quinny

We’re gonna go. Thanks everybody. Yeah.

Speaker 4

Enjoy your weekend. I want to.

Speaker

Live in a world full of heroes.

Speaker 4

Now sit here counting 0.

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