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We Audited 100+ B2B Websites – Here's What We Learned (with Talia Wolf)

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#230: Messaging | In this episode, Matt sits down with Talia Wolf, founder and CEO of GetUplift, to unpack what’s really wrong with most B2B websites – and how to fix it. After reviewing 100+ member-submitted sites from the Exit Five community, Talia shares what she sees over and over again: messaging that’s too focused on the product, poor design flow, and a lack of real customer understanding.

Matt and Talia cover:

  • Why most B2B sites focus too much on features and not enough on buyer emotion
  • How to use emotional targeting and customer research to write copy that converts
  • The biggest design mistakes B2B marketers are making (and how to fix them)
  • How to get stakeholder buy-in for website changes
  • Why great websites start with strong product marketing

Timestamps

  • (00:00) - – Intro to Talia
  • (03:38) - – Why most B2B websites fail to convert
  • (06:04) - – The common thread across 100+ website reviews from Exit Five members
  • (08:49) - – Why focusing on features instead of emotion kills conversions
  • (11:37) - – What is emotional targeting (and how to actually use it)?
  • (14:52) - – The power of customer research in website optimization
  • (18:14) - – How to apply emotional triggers to your homepage copy
  • (21:43) - – Mistakes B2B companies make with above-the-fold content
  • (24:45) - – Why you should write copy before designing the site
  • (30:18) - – Structuring your site around buyer intent and behavior
  • (33:35) - – How to get internal buy-in for messaging and UX changes
  • (36:52) - – The difference between product marketing and “just copywriting”
  • (40:08) - – The role of hierarchy, visual flow, and CTA placement
  • (43:34) - – When to simplify and when to educate on B2B websites
  • (46:56) - – Final takeaways and practical steps to start improving your site

Send guest pitches and ideas to [email protected]
Join the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletter
Check out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/
Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership

***

Today’s episode is brought to you by Zuddl.

We’re halfway through 2025, and one thing’s clear: events continue to be one of the highest performing marketing channels. Niche meetups, conferences, curated dinners, networking - you name it. Everyone’s leaning in.

Events are a core part of our playbook this year at Exit Five. So far, we’ve hosted two virtual sessions each month, one large virtual event, one in-person meetup, and we’re deep in the weeds planning our Drive conference coming back to Vermont this September.

Zuddl helps us run a smarter event strategy - from driving registrations, managing invites, automating comms, reminders, analytics, tracking. Their Salesforce integration also makes it simple to report on pipeline and revenue from events without pulling in ops.

On top of that, the differentiator with Zuddl is how their team is insanely good at supporting us. They always go above and beyond for us - and that’s how we’ve been able to keep the momentum going with 12+ events already this year, with plenty more to come.

If events are part of your marketing strategy, you need to look at Zuddl to see how companies like Zillow, CrowdStrike, and Iterable are using the top event platform for Business events in 2025.

Head over to zuddl.com/exitfive to learn more.

  continue reading

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#230: Messaging | In this episode, Matt sits down with Talia Wolf, founder and CEO of GetUplift, to unpack what’s really wrong with most B2B websites – and how to fix it. After reviewing 100+ member-submitted sites from the Exit Five community, Talia shares what she sees over and over again: messaging that’s too focused on the product, poor design flow, and a lack of real customer understanding.

Matt and Talia cover:

  • Why most B2B sites focus too much on features and not enough on buyer emotion
  • How to use emotional targeting and customer research to write copy that converts
  • The biggest design mistakes B2B marketers are making (and how to fix them)
  • How to get stakeholder buy-in for website changes
  • Why great websites start with strong product marketing

Timestamps

  • (00:00) - – Intro to Talia
  • (03:38) - – Why most B2B websites fail to convert
  • (06:04) - – The common thread across 100+ website reviews from Exit Five members
  • (08:49) - – Why focusing on features instead of emotion kills conversions
  • (11:37) - – What is emotional targeting (and how to actually use it)?
  • (14:52) - – The power of customer research in website optimization
  • (18:14) - – How to apply emotional triggers to your homepage copy
  • (21:43) - – Mistakes B2B companies make with above-the-fold content
  • (24:45) - – Why you should write copy before designing the site
  • (30:18) - – Structuring your site around buyer intent and behavior
  • (33:35) - – How to get internal buy-in for messaging and UX changes
  • (36:52) - – The difference between product marketing and “just copywriting”
  • (40:08) - – The role of hierarchy, visual flow, and CTA placement
  • (43:34) - – When to simplify and when to educate on B2B websites
  • (46:56) - – Final takeaways and practical steps to start improving your site

Send guest pitches and ideas to [email protected]
Join the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletter
Check out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/
Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership

***

Today’s episode is brought to you by Zuddl.

We’re halfway through 2025, and one thing’s clear: events continue to be one of the highest performing marketing channels. Niche meetups, conferences, curated dinners, networking - you name it. Everyone’s leaning in.

Events are a core part of our playbook this year at Exit Five. So far, we’ve hosted two virtual sessions each month, one large virtual event, one in-person meetup, and we’re deep in the weeds planning our Drive conference coming back to Vermont this September.

Zuddl helps us run a smarter event strategy - from driving registrations, managing invites, automating comms, reminders, analytics, tracking. Their Salesforce integration also makes it simple to report on pipeline and revenue from events without pulling in ops.

On top of that, the differentiator with Zuddl is how their team is insanely good at supporting us. They always go above and beyond for us - and that’s how we’ve been able to keep the momentum going with 12+ events already this year, with plenty more to come.

If events are part of your marketing strategy, you need to look at Zuddl to see how companies like Zillow, CrowdStrike, and Iterable are using the top event platform for Business events in 2025.

Head over to zuddl.com/exitfive to learn more.

  continue reading

276 episodes

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