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Endurance State of Mind

Anthony Herrington & Zach Vogt

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Endurance State of Mind is your go-to podcast for all things endurance—from the long miles to the mental grind. Hosted by Zach Vogt and Anthony Herrington, two everyday athletes with an obsession for pushing limits, this show dives into the training, mindset, and lifestyle of endurance sports. Each episode brings candid conversations, local race highlights (especially in Mississippi), interviews with inspiring guests, and plenty of laughs along the way. Whether you’re chasing a PR or just tr ...
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Dave Ricks, the CEO of Eli Lilly, the world's most valuable pharmaceutical company, sits down with John to discuss the complex business of drug development. Dave explains the true origin story of GLP-1s (from Gila monster saliva), why their potential goes far beyond weight loss to addiction and inflammation, and how "self-pay" has become the #1 way…
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Introduction: In the latest episode of our podcast, we dive into the exhilarating experience of the Tunnel Hill 100, where our co-host Zach completed the race in an impressive time of 18 hours and 56 minutes. This episode unpacks the emotional rollercoaster, physical challenges, and invaluable lessons learned from this remarkable endurance event. T…
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Zach Abrams, the CEO and cofounder of Bridge, the leading stablecoin orchestration platform, and Henri Stern, CEO and cofounder of Privy, the leading crypto wallet infrastructure, sit down with John to discuss the future of stablecoins, issuing, and what it will take for crypto to become ubiquitous. Both companies recently joined Stripe, and are un…
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In this episode of Endurance State of Mind, we sit down with runner and data enthusiast Whit Kendall, whose methodical yet mindful approach to training led to a stunning 2:37 finish at the Chicago Marathon. Whit shares how he transformed from a former football player to a marathoner obsessed with progress — running music-free, driven by intuition a…
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Description Casey Handmer is the founder of Terraform Industries, who is developing a machine that makes synthetic natural gas from sunlight and air. He joins the podcast to explain his solar maximalist worldview, why he believes solar costs will drop another 10x, and the core physics that doomed Hyperloop from the start. They also discuss the less…
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In this episode of Endurance State of Mind, we sit down with Lacey Saul — a 13-time Ironman finisher, registered dietitian, and newly minted Kona qualifier through the Ironman Legacy Program. Lacey opens up about her decade-long pursuit of Kona, how she learned to pivot instead of quit, and why racing smart often beats racing fast. From battling br…
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Seasoned public and private investor Dan Sundheim sits down with John to discuss the harrowing GameStop short squeeze, waking up at 3am for the European market open, and the emotional asymmetry of managing billions of dollars. They cover why he thinks successful private companies should avoid the public markets, the real genius of Elon Musk's busin…
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Description: In this special “just the hosts” episode of Endurance State of Mind, Anthony and Zach sit down to catch their breath and reflect on a wild stretch of endurance action. They revisit key takeaways from recent guests — Derrick Baker, the “Ambassador of Havoc,” and Warren Kimball, the maestro of the negative split — and unpack how consiste…
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From the weight room to 200-mile races, Derrick Baker is built different. A 12-time 100-mile finisher and 2-time 200-mile finisher from North Mississippi, Derrick embodies discipline, humility, and purpose. Once a 250-pound powerlifter, he discovered ultra running after seeing David Goggins on YouTube — and never looked back. In this episode, we di…
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RJ Scaringe, founder and CEO of Rivian, sits down for a cheeky pint with John Collison to discuss what it takes to build a car company from scratch, developing the first electric pickup truck, the shift to a software-defined zonal architecture, Rivian's AI-driven approach to autonomy, and the strategy behind their recent $5.8 billion deal with Volk…
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Shopify founder and CEO Tobi Lütke joins John Collison to discuss the philosophies driving one of the internet’s most foundational companies. Tobi shares his perspective on why companies are a form of technology, how internal tools and "opinionated software" shape an organization's culture and accelerate its evolution, and why the best gift is find…
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Marc Andreessen, cofounder of Netscape and Andreessen Horowitz, sits down for a Cheeky Pint with John Collison and Charlie Songhurst to discuss the history of Silicon Valley, spotting bubbles in real time, the "Elon method" of management, and why the mistakes that haunt you are the companies you don't invest in. Show notes: Roger Lowenstein: When G…
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No guest—just Anthony and Zach catching up after work travel and stacked weeks. We trade notes on chasing Strava crowns coast-to-coast, a rope-assist climb at Mount Storm King, and turning a seven-day, 36-holes-a-day golf trip into a stealth ultra. We shout out recent guests (Travis, Jed, Hezekiah, Chris), celebrate comebacks and dubs, and sketch a…
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Des Traynor, cofounder of Intercom, sits down for a Cheeky Pint with John Collison to discuss the growth of Fin (Intercom’s AI customer service agent), why selling AI products is hard, advice for product marketers, and cofounder dynamics. Full transcript on Substack: https://cheekypint.substack.com/p/des-traynor-on-reinventing-intercom Timestamps: …
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In this episode of Endurance State of Mind, we sit down with Travis Stewart—a husband, dad, and real estate professional whose endurance journey began during COVID with the Couch to 5K program. What started as a way to cope during a tough season quickly grew into something bigger: running led to cycling, cycling led to triathlon, and soon Travis wa…
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Mackenzie Burnett joins John Collison to talk about American agriculture, labor and immigration challenges, building rural resilience, ERPs, and the principle of money movement. She also shares some feedback for Stripe. Show notes: Where Soil is Holy, and Climate Change Is Seldom Mentioned Farming goes digital The End of Accounting and the Path For…
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From the heart of Hattiesburg’s Longleaf Trace, Jed Darby has built more than a bike shop—he’s built a movement. The Cajun-born runner-turned-cyclist/coach shares how early boxing shaped his endurance mindset, why he qualified for Boston (and Kona) then chose the work over the spotlight, and what he learned from coaching greats like Rick Crawford. …
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Have you ever wondered how your favorite movie or book—or podcast, TV series, documentary, or article—got made? Origin Stories has you covered. Each week, veteran journalist Matthew Shaer talks to a different writer or director about the creation of a work close to their own hearts. Nothing is off the table: not the frustrations and the joys, not t…
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Keller Cliffton joins John Collison to talk about Zipline’s journey to 115 million miles flown, the lost art of American airplanes, building 50k drones a year in California, getting to 99.9% reliability, and US vs. Chinese manufacturing. Books referenced: The Right Stuff by Tom Wolfe Skunk Works by Ben Rich Apple in China by Patrick McGee Timestamp…
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At just 23, Hezekiah “Hezzy” Miller is a walking shot of energy gel—equal parts hype man and humble grinder. Raised in the Mississippi Delta, Hezzy went from black-sheep kid to endurance engine, once jumping from two miles to a DIY 50-miler in two weeks (yes, really). But this conversation goes far deeper than mileage. He opens up about depression,…
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In this special episode of Endurance State of Mind, it’s just Zach and Anthony behind the mics. The guys swap endurance shoes for golf spikes as they recount their first scramble together in Hattiesburg, where the “student became the teacher” and golf proved to be a surprising mirror for running lessons. From patience and humility on the fairway to…
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Scott Wu joins John Collison to talk about Cognition’s AI software engineer, the Moneyball-ification of everything, math competitions with Alexandr Wang in 6th grade, acquiring Windsurf over a weekend, whether coding tools will be replaced by the labs, and why he thinks we already have AGI. Full transcript on Substack: https://open.substack.com/pub…
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In this episode of Endurance State of Mind, we sit down with Chris Mixon—an ultra runner with podium finishes at the Pinhoti 100 and Lake Martin 100, and a course record at Fondren Urban Ultra. But what makes this conversation powerful isn’t just his racing resume—it’s the fact that Chris is sharing his story mid-comeback. After surgery, setbacks, …
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Brian Armstrong joins John Collison to talk about what’s happening behind the scenes at Coinbase: battling North Korean hackers, war stories from early scaling, confronting people who won’t use AI to code, Coinbase becoming people’s primary financial account, and why banks are now embracing crypto. Full episode transcript on Substack https://cheeky…
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For more than two decades, Ed Daly has been the gold standard of Mississippi endurance. With over 20 consecutive years of logging 2,000+ miles annually, Ed’s journey is about more than races — it’s about attitude, perseverance, and lifting others up along the way. In this episode, Ed shares how running became a lifelong habit, why community matters…
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Vlad Tenev joins John Collison to discuss Bulgarian hyperinflation, Robinhood Banking, details from the GameStop saga—including advice from Marc Benioff, Mark Zuckerberg, and Elon Musk, payment for order flow economics and Michael Lewis’ Flash Boys, his approach to leadership through the Frank Slootman framework, and how he would change the SEC. Fu…
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What does it take to push your body to the brink—and then keep going? In this episode of Endurance State of Mind, we sit down with ultra running enigma Arrmon Abedikichi, a four-time 100-mile finisher, five-time Fondren Urban Ultra champion, and co-course record holder. Arrmon shares how a single moment of curiosity ignited a journey into self-impr…
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Dario Amodei joins John Collison to talk about Anthropic's growth to ~$5 billion in ARR, how AI models show capitalistic impulses, predictions for an agentic future, the economics of model businesses, and the 19th-century concept of vitalism. Full episode transcript on Substack: https://cheekypint.substack.com/p/a-cheeky-pint-with-anthropic-ceo Tim…
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In this episode of Endurance State of Mind, we sit down with Susan Dobson a triathlete, marathoner, and mom whose story is a testament to resilience, grit, and growth. From learning to swim in her 30s after a traumatic childhood experience to conquering three full Ironmans, qualifying for Boston, and juggling the chaos of family, career, and traini…
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Anthony and Zach go full host-mode for a no-guest episode of Endurance State of Mind—and it’s one of the rawest yet. From scorching heat and quad cramps to dry heaves and digging deep, the guys break down every brutal, hilarious, and inspiring moment of the Big Butts Ultra. They recap race strategy, near-meltdowns (literally), and what it takes to …
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What do you get when you combine sub-2:30 marathons, high school cross country chaos, and a son named Miles? You get Jacob Plocher—state record holder, school counselor, coach, and Mississippi’s own marathon man. In this episode of Endurance State of Mind, Jacob takes us through his journey from overweight middle schooler to breaking state records …
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This week on Endurance State of Mind, we sit down with Louis Gagne—a cyclist, KOM chaser, and all-around ambassador for two wheels and transformation. Louis opens up about rediscovering cycling during COVID, trading in beers for big climbs, and how the bike became his therapy and his mission. From mountain biking in Mississippi to riding team-issue…
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Pieter Levels joins John Collison to discuss building successful online businesses as a digital nomad, thoughts on European accelerationism, and Pieter’s unconventional methods and philosophy as a bootstrapped founder making over $3 million per year. Full episode transcript https://cheekypint.transistor.fm/4/transcript Timestamps (00:00) Intro (00:…
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Sometimes, the quietest room is the loudest place we’ll ever be. In this gripping episode, co-host Anthony Herrington opens up about the emotional spiral that followed the loss of his mother, the end of a long-term relationship, and the isolation that nearly consumed him. It was in the silence of an empty house—alone with his thoughts—that Anthony …
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From drumline director to gravel grinder, Andy Gilstrap didn’t just dip his toe into cycling—he cannonballed in. In this episode of Endurance State of Mind, we sit down with Andy to hear how he went from casual Trace rides with his family in 2023 to finishing the brutal 200-mile Unbound Gravel race just a year later. We talk Saturday group rides, t…
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The Bot Company founder and CEO Kyle Vogt—who also cofounded Twitch and Cruise—joins John Collison to talk about applying AI to home robots, the similarities between robotics and self-driving, and why the next $100 billion company will have fewer than 100 people. Full episode transcript https://cheekypint.transistor.fm/3/transcript Timestamps (00:0…
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In a powerful turn of the mic, co-host Zach Vogt steps into the spotlight to share his deeply personal journey—from a childhood rooted in love and discipline to a decade-long battle with addiction. Zach opens up about his rock bottom moment on a business trip to Canada and how it sparked a complete transformation. With raw honesty, he details how r…
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Susan Li of Meta—the youngest chief financial officer of a Fortune 100 company—joins John Collison to talk about capital allocation, managing investors, and how Mark Zuckerberg has changed over the 17 years of working together. Full episode transcript https://cheekypint.transistor.fm/2/transcript Timestamps (00:00) Intro (01:20) Early education and…
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Greg Brockman—OpenAI cofounder and Stripe's first engineer—joins John Collison to talk about research-driven product development, an early moment he thought OpenAI was doomed, S curves in AI advancement, and energy bottlenecks. Full episode transcript: https://cheekypint.transistor.fm/1/transcript Timestamps (00:00) Intro (02:51) Was OpenAI the fir…
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In this milestone 10th episode of Endurance State of Mind, Zach and Anthony sit down—just the two of them—for an honest conversation reflecting on their podcast journey so far. From their surprise nomination to the “Best of the Pine Belt” awards to building an organic listener base through Strava and real-world connections, the duo opens up about w…
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In this powerful episode, we sit down with David Slowik—a high-energy force in Mississippi's ultrarunning scene and a beacon of resilience. From battling addiction to toeing the line at 100-mile ultras, David opens up about the micro habits that saved his life and the running community that helped him rebuild it. He shares the emotional story behin…
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In this episode of Endurance State of Mind, we sit down with Michael Yarbrough—veteran of over 100 races, trail running advocate, and associate dean at Pearl River Community College. From his first steps in a post-Katrina Crescent City Classic to multiple finishes at the Mississippi 50 and beyond, Michael shares a two-decade journey of growth, grit…
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On this inspiring episode, we sit down with Brian Murphy—classical pianist, professor of music at William Carey University, and newly-minted ultramarathoner. Brian shares how his endurance journey began not on a racecourse, but during a deeply personal season of struggle as a father navigating his son’s diagnosis with PANDAS, a rare autoimmune diso…
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On this episode of the Endurance State of Mind podcast, we sit down with Jackson Wolf, a relentless ultra-endurance athlete who has conquered some of the sport’s most iconic races, including the Western States 100, Badwater 135, and the grueling Cocodona 250. Jackson shares his unique approach to training, why he often races without a crew, and how…
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In this episode, Rhonda Hayden shares her inspiring journey in the endurance sports world, detailing how her father's influence led her to embrace running and triathlons. She discusses the significant health challenges she has faced due to autoimmune disorders and how exercise has been a vital part of her coping strategy. Rhonda emphasizes the impo…
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In this raw and reflective episode, Anthony and Zach break down their full experience at the Fondren Urban Ultra — from unexpected setbacks to mile-by-mile strategy and emotional turning points. Anthony opens up about caring for his father after a heart attack just two weeks before the race and how that shaped his mindset going in. Zach shares what…
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In this inspiring episode of Endurance State of Mind, we sit down with Melinda Howard — founder of Mississippi Coffee Runners and a true champion of positivity in the endurance community. Melinda shares her incredible journey, from lacing up her shoes for a Couch to 5K program in 2011 to losing 170 pounds and becoming a marathoner, ultrarunner, and…
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