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Are you obsessed with everything running? We are too! We'll discuss our journeys leading up to big races and much, much more. We will bring to light some of the everyday pitfalls we run into (pun intended, I think) as runners in addition to some of the things we've learned along the way. We hope to entertain you during your long runs, workouts and easy paced days.
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Endurance State of Mind

Anthony Herrington & Zach Vogt

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Endurance State of Mind is your go-to podcast for all things endurance—from the long miles to the mental grind. Hosted by Zach Vogt and Anthony Herrington, two everyday athletes with an obsession for pushing limits, this show dives into the training, mindset, and lifestyle of endurance sports. Each episode brings candid conversations, local race highlights (especially in Mississippi), interviews with inspiring guests, and plenty of laughs along the way. Whether you’re chasing a PR or just tr ...
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Holley Fueled Nutrition podcast will provide you with nutrition knowledge for all things running, endurance sports, preventing injury and burnout and more. I’ll interview every day runners and athletes making it happen-just like you- and chatting about their experiences as a runner. We’ll chat about how nutrition and fueling impacts training, performance, and your overall health and adjustments you can make to be the best runner you can be! Want to learn more about working with me? Check out ...
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In this week's episode of TRUE BELIEVERS, chrs and ALANA cover episode one of Netflix Original JUPITER'S LEGACY based on the comic book by MARK MILLAR and FRANK QUITELY. Sound Effect by Luca Di Alessandro from Pixabay Sound Effect by DRAGON-STUDIO from Pixabay Sound Effect by Mauricio Póvoa from Pixabay ⁠Website⁠ ⁠Instagram⁠ ⁠Facebook⁠ ⁠Discord⁠ ⁠T…
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Rhonda Hayden joins the podcast for a deep dive into one of the South’s most iconic races, the Rocket City Marathon in Huntsville, Alabama. We break down everything runners can expect from this year’s event: a fast, thoughtfully designed course, the continued growth of the marathon weekend, and the personal touches that make Rocket City a fan favor…
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Introduction: In the latest episode of our podcast, we dive into the exhilarating experience of the Tunnel Hill 100, where our co-host Zach completed the race in an impressive time of 18 hours and 56 minutes. This episode unpacks the emotional rollercoaster, physical challenges, and invaluable lessons learned from this remarkable endurance event. T…
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In this episode I chat with Stephanie Roth-Goldberg, LCSW about how "running is my therapy" as a popular phrase used within the endurance community is problematic. We discuss how running and exercise can absolutely be a therapeutic tool for people and also where runners could use additional therapeutic tools to manage their mental health. Stephanie…
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In this episode of Endurance State of Mind, we sit down with runner and data enthusiast Whit Kendall, whose methodical yet mindful approach to training led to a stunning 2:37 finish at the Chicago Marathon. Whit shares how he transformed from a former football player to a marathoner obsessed with progress — running music-free, driven by intuition a…
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In this episode of Endurance State of Mind, we sit down with Lacey Saul — a 13-time Ironman finisher, registered dietitian, and newly minted Kona qualifier through the Ironman Legacy Program. Lacey opens up about her decade-long pursuit of Kona, how she learned to pivot instead of quit, and why racing smart often beats racing fast. From battling br…
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In this episode I cover the basics of nutrition considerations for the breastfeeding athlete & runner. Resources: Breastfeeding Athlete Nutrition Masterclass: https://holleyfuelednutrition.thinkific.com/courses/breastfeeding-athlete Pregnant Athlete Nutrition Course: https://holleyfuelednutrition.com/pregnant-athlete LactMed Database: https://www.n…
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Description: In this special “just the hosts” episode of Endurance State of Mind, Anthony and Zach sit down to catch their breath and reflect on a wild stretch of endurance action. They revisit key takeaways from recent guests — Derrick Baker, the “Ambassador of Havoc,” and Warren Kimball, the maestro of the negative split — and unpack how consiste…
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From the weight room to 200-mile races, Derrick Baker is built different. A 12-time 100-mile finisher and 2-time 200-mile finisher from North Mississippi, Derrick embodies discipline, humility, and purpose. Once a 250-pound powerlifter, he discovered ultra running after seeing David Goggins on YouTube — and never looked back. In this episode, we di…
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In this episode I chat with my colleague Ben Tzeel, RD, CDCES, CSCS about his own journey navigating learning how to fuel for sports with type 1 diabetes along with his top evidence based approaches for helping fellow athletes who have type 1 diabetes. Ben is a registered dietitian, strength coach, and T1D vet of over 20 years who specializes in pr…
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No guest—just Anthony and Zach catching up after work travel and stacked weeks. We trade notes on chasing Strava crowns coast-to-coast, a rope-assist climb at Mount Storm King, and turning a seven-day, 36-holes-a-day golf trip into a stealth ultra. We shout out recent guests (Travis, Jed, Hezekiah, Chris), celebrate comebacks and dubs, and sketch a…
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In this episode I discuss the top 3 root causes I see of GI issues in runners & my thoughts on the recent study linking endurance running with increased risk of colon cancer. Thank you BetterHelp for sponsoring this episode! To save 10% on your first month of therapy, visit: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.betterhelp.com/holleyfueled⁠⁠⁠⁠ To work with me in my…
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In this episode of Endurance State of Mind, we sit down with Travis Stewart—a husband, dad, and real estate professional whose endurance journey began during COVID with the Couch to 5K program. What started as a way to cope during a tough season quickly grew into something bigger: running led to cycling, cycling led to triathlon, and soon Travis wa…
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From the heart of Hattiesburg’s Longleaf Trace, Jed Darby has built more than a bike shop—he’s built a movement. The Cajun-born runner-turned-cyclist/coach shares how early boxing shaped his endurance mindset, why he qualified for Boston (and Kona) then chose the work over the spotlight, and what he learned from coaching greats like Rick Crawford. …
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In this episode I answer the following questions: how do I know if I am eating enough as an athlete? Holley what do you think about Serena Williams and athletes in general using GLP-1 medications for weight loss? Thank you BetterHelp for sponsoring this episode! To save 10% on your first month of therapy, visit: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.betterhelp.com/…
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At just 23, Hezekiah “Hezzy” Miller is a walking shot of energy gel—equal parts hype man and humble grinder. Raised in the Mississippi Delta, Hezzy went from black-sheep kid to endurance engine, once jumping from two miles to a DIY 50-miler in two weeks (yes, really). But this conversation goes far deeper than mileage. He opens up about depression,…
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In this special episode of Endurance State of Mind, it’s just Zach and Anthony behind the mics. The guys swap endurance shoes for golf spikes as they recount their first scramble together in Hattiesburg, where the “student became the teacher” and golf proved to be a surprising mirror for running lessons. From patience and humility on the fairway to…
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In this episode I address the recent NY Times Article that has been stirring up controversy in the sports nutrition space the past month on taking electrolytes. Oral Rehydration Solution: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C8fABvYRBO6/?igsh=MTFiOWl0M2gydTBqYg== Blog Post on Hydration for Runners: https://holleyfuelednutrition.com/blog/how-much-sodium-i…
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In this episode of Endurance State of Mind, we sit down with Chris Mixon—an ultra runner with podium finishes at the Pinhoti 100 and Lake Martin 100, and a course record at Fondren Urban Ultra. But what makes this conversation powerful isn’t just his racing resume—it’s the fact that Chris is sharing his story mid-comeback. After surgery, setbacks, …
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For more than two decades, Ed Daly has been the gold standard of Mississippi endurance. With over 20 consecutive years of logging 2,000+ miles annually, Ed’s journey is about more than races — it’s about attitude, perseverance, and lifting others up along the way. In this episode, Ed shares how running became a lifelong habit, why community matters…
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In this episode I cover my top 3 (with a bonus tip too) tips on negative splitting your next marathon so you can finish feeling strong and powerful instead of hitting the wall and crawling to the finish. Thank you BetterHelp for sponsoring this episode! To save 10% on your first month of therapy, visit: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.betterhelp.com/holleyfuele…
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What does it take to push your body to the brink—and then keep going? In this episode of Endurance State of Mind, we sit down with ultra running enigma Arrmon Abedikichi, a four-time 100-mile finisher, five-time Fondren Urban Ultra champion, and co-course record holder. Arrmon shares how a single moment of curiosity ignited a journey into self-impr…
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In this episode of Endurance State of Mind, we sit down with Susan Dobson a triathlete, marathoner, and mom whose story is a testament to resilience, grit, and growth. From learning to swim in her 30s after a traumatic childhood experience to conquering three full Ironmans, qualifying for Boston, and juggling the chaos of family, career, and traini…
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In this episode I cover the basics you need to know to start running! Whether you're a seasoned athlete needing to get back to the basics or a brand new runner, welcome! I hope you enjoy this episode- send it to a friend, family member, co worker, or partner who wants to start running! All are welcome :) My Amazon running gear favorites: https://ww…
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Anthony and Zach go full host-mode for a no-guest episode of Endurance State of Mind—and it’s one of the rawest yet. From scorching heat and quad cramps to dry heaves and digging deep, the guys break down every brutal, hilarious, and inspiring moment of the Big Butts Ultra. They recap race strategy, near-meltdowns (literally), and what it takes to …
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What do you get when you combine sub-2:30 marathons, high school cross country chaos, and a son named Miles? You get Jacob Plocher—state record holder, school counselor, coach, and Mississippi’s own marathon man. In this episode of Endurance State of Mind, Jacob takes us through his journey from overweight middle schooler to breaking state records …
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In today's Q&A episode, I cover: Is serum calcium via bloodwork a good measurement of bone health? What labs or scans are a good measurement of bone health? What labs do I recommend runners get tested each year? Thank you BetterHelp for sponsoring this episode! To save 10% on your first month of therapy, visit: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.betterhelp.com/holl…
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This week on Endurance State of Mind, we sit down with Louis Gagne—a cyclist, KOM chaser, and all-around ambassador for two wheels and transformation. Louis opens up about rediscovering cycling during COVID, trading in beers for big climbs, and how the bike became his therapy and his mission. From mountain biking in Mississippi to riding team-issue…
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Sometimes, the quietest room is the loudest place we’ll ever be. In this gripping episode, co-host Anthony Herrington opens up about the emotional spiral that followed the loss of his mother, the end of a long-term relationship, and the isolation that nearly consumed him. It was in the silence of an empty house—alone with his thoughts—that Anthony …
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