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Road to the Trials

Peter Bromka, Lindsey Hein, and Matt Chittim

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Co-hosts Matt Chittim, Lindsey Hein, and Peter Bromka interview every 2028 Olympic Marathon Trials Qualifier along with a wide-ranging group of industry professionals in preparation for the 2028 Olympics in Los Angeles.
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A running podcast dedicated to conversation, commentary, and fun. Our team has someone for everything, from pros to amateurs, track nerds to ultra athletes, shoe experts, and coaches. We love discussing all-things running with enough hilarious tangents to keep you on your toes. Like being on your favorite group run with friends. The Relay team of contributors includes Kofuzi, Stefanie Flippin, Lindsey Hein, Laura Thweatt, Tommie Runz, Peter Bromka, Marcus Brown, and Matt Chittim.
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This week on group chat, we have Lindsey Hein, Matt Chittim, and Peter Bromka. Episode Rundown: Boulderthon recap Travel-to-race vs PR-chasing mindset Boston Marathon cutoff talk and tightening standards Chicago Marathon expo plans and live show plug Trail and Ultra World Championships VKs, 200-mile races, and why they’re surprisingly watchable Roa…
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As Relay's first-ever Team USA competitor, we couldn't resist the chance to dive deep with Erika into the whole experience, including the heat, humidity, ice hats, and pacing strategies. Sunglasses, after parties, and all things Tokyo. Running in the heat is TOUGH! But this was a fun one. If we missed anything leave a question in the comments and w…
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In this episode, hosts Matt Chittim, Peter Bromka, and Lindsey Hein sit down with legendary coach James McKirdy, the founder of McKirdy Trained. Over the past decade, McKirdy has built one of the most recognizable and influential coaching groups in the U.S., guiding dozens of athletes to Olympic Trials Qualifiers and shaping the way amateur runners…
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This week on group chat, we have Tommie, Kofuzi, Peter, Erika, and Marcus. Episode Rundown: The extreme Tokyo heat and humidity and how it affected athletes and fans Marathon experiences, aid station violations, and Susanna Sullivan’s race Standout events: men’s and women’s steeplechase, women’s 800m, men’s 1500m, men’s 400 hurdles Mondo Duplantis …
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Host Matt Chittim and co-host Peter Bromka sit down with marathoner Mike Duggan to relive his one-second OTQ at CIM on the final day of the window and the chaos of gun time versus net time. Duggan shares lessons from a rough Berlin attempt and jet lag, the power of Jeff Cunningham’s Austin training group and why Chicago is next. He talks pack dynam…
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Co-hosts Peter Bromka and Matt Chittim sit down with elite coach Jeff Cunningham to unpack the multi-year, step-by-step process of developing athletes for the U.S. Olympic Trials. The conversation explores how to structure seasons for steady progression, what differentiates first-time Trials qualifiers from veterans, and how clear communication and…
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Today on group chat, we have Lindsey Hein and Peter Bromka. Episode Rundown: Erika Kemp in Tokyo — Lindsey and Peter hyping up Erika’s marathon and her confidence, calling her a “crusher” and “pleasant surprise” on the show. Brooks’ identity shift — the back-and-forth about Brooks trying to go from “run happy” to “we’re serious now,” with the high …
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On this episode of Road to the Trials, Olympian Dakotah Popehn shares her journey from Division II walk-on to placing third at the 2024 Olympic Trials and finishing 12th in Paris. She talks about the belief and consistency that carried her rise, the heat prep that made Orlando feel almost routine, and the big goals she’s chasing next—including a PR…
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Road to the Trials welcomes Olympian Jared Ward, fresh off a year in the UK completing an MBA, for a focused conversation on sustainable high-performance training and mindset. Jared explains how he’s reframed workouts as stimulus for long-term adaptation, what he learned from the 2016 Trials and sixth place in Rio, and why he’s still chasing meanin…
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Join us as we dive into the inspiring journey of Theresa Hailey, a dedicated marathoner who has qualified for the Olympic Trials twice. In this episode, Theresa shares her experiences overcoming injuries, her mental strategies for racing, and her goals for the future. Discover how she balances her passion for running with her new role as a foster p…
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Welcome to Season Four of Road to the Trials! This will be the most epic season yet as we look to interview every qualifier to the 2028 Olympic Marathon Trials in Los Angeles as well as plenty of industry professionals along the way. Our expanded goal is matched by our expanding team! We now have three co-hosts - Matt Chittim, Lindsey Hein, and Pet…
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Today on group chat, we have Erika Kemp, Lindsey Hein, and Matt Chittim. Topics we covered: Cooper Lutkenhaus goes pro at 16 and signs with Nike NIL deals, college eligibility, and the value of NCAA programs vs. professional contracts Risks and benefits of skipping the collegiate system (facilities, coaching, social/educational experience) Fall mar…
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In this lively conversation, Lindsey Hein, Erika Kemp, Tommie Runz, and Peter Bromka discuss various topics ranging from recent running events to internet culture and memes. They share hot takes on food preferences, analyze Faith Kipyegon's performance from the Diamond League, the importance of points in track and field, and the dynamics of communi…
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In this conversation, Lindsey, Tommie, Matt, and Peter are joined by Sandy Roberts and Pat Price, founders of the Sir Walter Miler. They dive deep into the history and evolution of the Sir Walter Miler event. Topics discussed: Introduction to the Sir Walter Miler event The community engagement aspect Evolution of the event over the years The role o…
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Today on group chat, we have Tommie Runz, Erika Kemp, Lindsey Hein, Peter Bromka, and Matt Chittim. Top Topics Covered: 1. Doping Scandals Rock Running: Deep dive into Ruth Chepngetich’s doping news, reactions from within the running world, and how it impacts both elite athletes and fans. 2. What Mainstream Audiences Actually Hear About Running: Wh…
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Today on group chat, we have Lindsey Hein and Peter Bromka. Episode Rundown: Track and Field Summer Highlights: From Bailey Hertenstein's world standard in the 5K to Diamond League drama and Noah Lyles vs. Letsile Tebogo. Hardrock 100 and Trail Running Talk: Why 50-year-old Ludo dominated, Katie Schide's calm dominance, and the challenge of long ul…
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Today on group chat, we have Peter Bromka and Erika Kemp. Episode Rundown: 50th anniversary atmosphere and in-person experience at Pre Classic Standout performances across events, including Gudaf Tsegay’s and Faith Kipyegon’s world records Sage Hurta-Klecker’s standout pacing job and pacing strategy overall Long jump drama and showmanship from Tara…
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Today on group chat, we have Erika Kemp, Peter Bromka, Tommie Runz, Kofuzi, and Marcus Brown. Episode Rundown: Running in the Heat and the “Park” Workout Debacle The Ethics of Running in Cemeteries Peachtree Road Race Preview Faith Kipyegon and Breaking 4 Event Legitimacy vs. Storytelling How Track Can Be More Fun (Without Losing Respect) Should Ki…
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Western States 100 is always one of the highlights of the running calendar and the 2025 edition was no different! There was more pre-race hype than we've ever had before and the race absolutely delivered. In this episode, Stefanie Flippin, Peter Bromka, and Matt Chittim break the men's and women's races, talk about lasting impressions from the race…
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Petear Bromka and Matt Chittim preview the Western States Endurance Run in a year that is so full of storylines that they didn't come close to mentioning them all in an hour long episode! With that said, they cover the Return of the King (Killian), the hunt for course records (and the attrition that could result), and a look at the potential Top 10…
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Today on group chat, we have Erika Kemp, Peter Bromka, Lindsey Hein, and Kofuzi. Topics Covered: How elite runners train and race in extreme heat Behind the scenes at Brooks HQ Kofuzi accidentally holding Des Linden’s prototype race shoe What running gear says about your race-day confidence Thoughts on breaking the women’s mile world record (Breaki…
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In this episode of Relay, host Lindsey Hein introduces the newest member of the Relay team: Erika Kemp. Erika is an accomplished professional distance runner for Brooks, a 2:22 marathoner, and a two-time U.S. champion. She made headlines in her debut marathon at Boston in 2023, running the fastest time ever recorded by an American-born Black woman.…
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Today on group chat, we have Peter Bromka and Matt Chittim. Episode Rundown: All of the subscriptions that you need to be a track fan The recent news on Grand Slam track Boston Marathon’s consideration of downhill courses Changes to the Boston Marathon registering process Oslo Diamond League Nico Young’s breakout 5k win The Women’s 400m race in Osl…
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This week on group chat, we have Erika Kemp, Lindsey Hein, Stef Flippin, and Peter Bromka. Episode Rundown: Some love for Ali Feller Erika’s mini 10k race and World Championship team selection We Out Here Trail Fest The Zooming Demons NCAA athletes now being paid and what that may mean for track and field Catching up on the Diamond League performan…
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Trail and ultra running coach, runner, and commentator Brett Hornig joins the Relay crew of Stefanie Flippin, Peter Bromka, and Matt Chittim to hit some important trail topics headed into the summer. Specifically, we dive into: 1. Opposite yet equally exciting men’s and women’s storylines for the Wester States Endurance Run and our picks for who we…
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Coach Cunningham is back! After celebrating the marathon last fall and then again, Peter and Jeff are back to try and convince you to "play with running" and test yourself at the mile, 5k, 10k, or any other distance that feels like speed to marathon legs. Check out more of Coach Cunningham's content here. And please let us know what other questions…
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Episode Rundown: Stef’s first road race in 6 years!! Another round of Grand Slam chat and what’s changed with those meets Free Trail Podcast episode with Tommie Tommie Trails or Tommie Roads? Weight vests for improved performance - yay or nay? Lindsey’s Instagram algorithm Teasing a new Relay team member Things we are loving: The Four Seasons on Ne…
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On this week's group chat, we have Lindsey Hein, Peter Bromka, and Matt Chittim geeking out on all things running YouTube! Channels we recccomended: https://youtube.com/@hansisyoungandfit?si=q7Tpk_-F12lWa_q3 https://youtube.com/@kristi-eramo-oconnell?si=jgmc3g6JkOOT3835 https://youtube.com/@flobergruns?si=6KXwjVpZpL6JvAa1 https://youtube.com/@thehe…
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This week on group chat, we have Lindsey Hein, Kofuzi, Matt Chittim, and Peter Bromka. Episode Rundown: Boston Marathon Preview Where we’ll all be for Boston weekend The Runna App and future of AI coaching Breaking news from Lindsey Hein about her pickle ball career Getting nerdy about the trail racing scene Is Des Linden running the USATF 50M cham…
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In this engaging conversation, Haftu Knight shares his remarkable journey from Ethiopia to becoming one of the fastest marathoners in US history. He discusses his recent success at the McKirdy Micro Marathon where he ran 2:09:38. That performance made him the 22nd fastest marathoner in US history and the fastest Texas marathoner ever (he broke Alan…
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Today on group chat, we have Lindsey Hein, Peter Bromka, and Matt Chittim. Episode Rundown: Tommie at The Speed Project Steph Bruce signing with Tracksmith Trail and Ultra races we’ve been watching Show notes: Tommie Runz fundraiser for Release Recovery Foundation: https://fundraisers.hakuapp.com/tommie-runz?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAaZTEFLEX7kaqPI…
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This week on group chat, we have Lindsey Hein, Matt Chittim, and Peter Bromka. Episode Rundown: NCAA Indoors Matt’s basketball league NYC Half Recap The nitty gritty of form for sprinters and distance runners The unknown man (Matt Richtman) that ran a 2:07 marathon at the LA Marathon Keira D’Amato's career All-time greats in the sport Matt’s upcomi…
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Our man Tommie Runz is taking on The Speed Project SOLO! In this episode we get into the backstory, the funraising, the training, and the reason why he's heading to the desert for 340 miles of madness. Check out his announcement here! You can support his effort to support the Release Recovery Foundation here. Less than 2 weeks till we get to follow…
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Today on group chat, we have Lindsey Hein, Peter Bromka, and Matt Chittim. Episode Rundown: Natosha Rogers marathon result Kallup McCoy’s running journey What enneagram is Matt? Des and Kara’s 10k Helping Peter find love for the 10,000m The Speed Project Thank you to our sponsor: Cure Hydration ⁠⁠Curehydration.com/relay⁠⁠ and use the code “relay” f…
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Today on group chat, we have Peter Bromka, Kofuzi, and Tommie Runz. Episode Rundown: US Half Marathon Championships Yared’s mile world record attempt Josh Kerr pulling out of Milrose Games Clayton Young’s vulnerability on YouTube Notable documentaries in sport Thank you to our sponsor: Cure Hydration ⁠Curehydration.com/relay⁠ and use the code “rela…
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Today on group chat, we have Lindsey Hein, Kofuzi, Peter Bromka, and Tommie Runz. Episode Rundown: Nikki Hiltz on a tear this weekend Dawn Harper Nelson as a commentator Grand Slam Track versus Indoor World Championships Gate River Run this weekend USA Half Marathon Championships Tommie’s high volume training Kofuzi’s adventures in Morocco Thank yo…
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Today on group chat, we have Laura Thweatt, Lindsey Hein, Peter Bromka, and Matt Chittim. Episode Rundown: All of the world records that went down this weekend The race walk world record Tyreek Hill versus Noah Lyles Who is the fastest in the NFL? Matt's record breaking neighbor Media recommendations: Love is Blind Season 8 Peter’s writing in podca…
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Today on group chat, we have Lindsey Hein and Peter Bromka. Episode Rundown: Millrose games recap Sodium Bicarbonate The end of the Bowerman Track Club era Lindsey’s spring season of events Superbowl Sunday Media recommended: The Warm Hands of Ghosts Win the Inside Game David Sedaris books All the Hacks podcast Take on Barilla’s Protein Pasta Winte…
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Today on group chat, we have Lindsey Hein, Kofuzi, Laura Thweatt, Matt Chittim, and Peter Bromka. Episode Rundown: Indoor track recaps from the weekend Mike’s race and experience in Miami Shelby Houlihan’s return to racing Grand Slam meets to be broadcasted by CW Sports, Peacock, and NBC Balancing travel, work, and running Looking ahead to the Mara…
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