Statistically Speaking is the Office for National Statistics' podcast, offering in-depth interviews on the latest hot topics in the world of data, taking a peek behind the scenes of the UK's largest independent producer of official statistics and exploring the stories behind the numbers.
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Orbition Group is delighted to bring you this podcast series, which is designed for Data Enthusiasts, to hear from some of the most high-profile Data, Analytics and AI thought leaders from around the globe. Each episode will detail the guests journey to the top while bringing unique insights, drawn from first-hand experience on the industry’s most trending topics. This podcast was created as a way for our industry's most respected leadership figures from across the world to give back to the ...
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S5 | Ep 50 | Rebuilding Trust: How the ONS Is Turning Data Lessons into Lasting Change with James Benford, Director General for Economic, Social and Environmental Statistics at Office for National Statistics ...
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50:59In Episode 50, the season finale of Season 5 of Driven by Data: The Podcast, Kyle Winterbottom was joined by James Benford, Director General of Surveys, Economic and Social Statistics at Office for National Statistics, where they have a candid discussion regarding the turnaround job at hand after recent public scrutiny and high-profile errors. They…
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BONUS EPIOSDE: Driven by Data LIVE; Panel Discussion 1: The Biggest Challenges in Data, Analytics & AI and How They're Being Tackled!
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55:37In October 2025, Orbition Group hosted Driven by Data LIVE, where they welcomed 120 CDOs/Data Leaders to Tobacco Dock in London for a half-day event, which included 3 panel discussions and some roundtable conversations. The first panel discussion saw Kyle Winterbottom joined by; Davin Crowley-Sweet, Chief Data Officer at National Highways Kelly Hul…
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S5 | Ep 49 | AI Innovation; Succeed by Letting the Business Lead with Adrian Estala, Field Chief Data & AI Officer at Starburst
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48:21In Episode 49, of Season 5 of Driven by Data: The Podcast, Kyle Winterbottom was joined by Adrian Estala, Field Chief Data & AI Officer at Starburst, where they discuss how to deliver successful AI innovation and transformation by letting 'the business' lead, which includes; Why we need to let business teams to lead AI innovation for meaningful tra…
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S5 | Ep 48 | Building AI for AI: How Trust Models and Data Marketplaces Are Changing the Game with Susan Laine, Chief Technology Officer (Data) at Quest Software
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57:15In Episode 48, of Season 5 of Driven by Data: The Podcast, Kyle Winterbottom was joined by Susan Laine, Chief Technology Officer (Data) at Quest Software, where they discuss the concept of building 'AI for AI', which includes; The state of data in the AI era and why garbage in equals disaster out How ‘AI for AI’ is helping organisations manage data…
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S5 | Ep 47 | AI Readiness: What Comes Next for Data Teams and Their Careers with Mike Leverington, Senior Director of Data & Analytics at SkyScanner
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54:02In Episode 47, of Season 5 of Driven by Data: The Podcast, Kyle Winterbottom was joined by Mike Leverington, Senior Director of Data & Analytics at Skyscanner, where they discuss the evolving landscape of data analytics in the era of AI, which includes; How AI and GenAI are transforming not only the way we work but the way we think, impacting creat…
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Crime data: Numbers, narratives and nuance
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38:05In "Crime: Numbers, Narratives and Nuance" our host Miles Fletcher speaks with Nick Stripe, Joint Head of Crime Statistics at the ONS and John Rentoul, leading commentator on crime, policing, and the media, about the challenges in interpreting crime data. Transcript MILES FLETCHER Hello and welcome to another episode of Statistically Speaking – the…
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S5 | Ep 46 | Data & Digital and the Future of Healthcare with Ming Tang, Chief Data & Analytics Officer & Chief Digital & Information Officer at NHS England
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48:53In Episode 46, of Season 5 of Driven by Data: The Podcast, Kyle Winterbottom was joined by Ming Tang, Chief Data & Analytics Officer & Chief Digital & Information Officer at NHS England where they discuss the the governments 10-year strategy for the future of healthcare and the role that data and digital will play, which includes; From pharmacist t…
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S5 | Ep 45 | Climbing the Data & AI Literacy Ladder with Pete Williams, Director of Data at Penguin Random House and Greg Freeman, CEO at Data Literacy Academy
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S5 | Ep 44 | From Loyalty to Literacy: Using Data for Good with Nick Blewden, Director of Data at Co-Op
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S5 | Ep 43 | Measuring for Success with Sarah Hardison, Product Director, Analytics Enablement at GSK.
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43:17In Episode 43, of Season 5 of Driven by Data: The Podcast, Kyle Winterbottom was joined by Sarah Hardison. Product Director, Analytics Enablement at GSK where they discuss the results from a research project on the investment and value in Data and AI that was conducted to support an MBA Thesis in partnership with University of Cambridge, which incl…
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S5 | Ep 42 | The Leadership Shift; Running Data Like a Business Function with Carl Smith, Group Data Officer at JCB
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57:38In Episode 42, of Season 5 of Driven by Data: The Podcast, Kyle Winterbottom was joined by Carl Smith, Group Data Officer at JCB, where they discuss why everyone hates data governance, the motivation behind his 3-part book series, and why organisations face in implementing effective data strategies, which includes; Why everyone hates governance (un…
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S5 | Ep 41 | Effective Change Leadership with Joyce Myers, Chief Data Officer at MTSI
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52:10In Episode 41, of Season 5 of Driven by Data: The Podcast, Kyle Winterbottom was joined by Joyce Myers, Chief Data Officer at MTSI where they discuss the critical facets of effective change leadership, which includes; Why we should aspire for 'Change Leadership' not 'Change Management' Joyce's journey from the military to Data Leadership. The use o…
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S5 | Ep 40 | Two Streams of Transformation; Accelerating Value While Building for Scale with Carlos Soares, SVP Data, Analytics & AI at Brenntag
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59:23In Episode 40, of Season 5 of Driven by Data: The Podcast, Kyle Winterbottom was joined by Carlos Soares, SVP Data, Analytics & AI at Brenntag, where they discuss how Brenntag is reshaping global operations by applying data, analytics, and AI to drive measurable business value. From tackling transformation through dual streams to building a data cu…
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S5 | Ep 39 | Successful AI Adoption with Alex Sidgreaves, Chief Data Officer at Zurich Insurance, Indhira Mani, Chief Data Officer at RSA and Greg Freeman, CEO at Data Literacy Academy
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56:28In Episode 39, of Season 5 of Driven by Data: The Podcast, Kyle Winterbottom was joined by Alex Sidgreaves, Chief Data Officer at Zurich Insurance, Indhira Mani, Chief Data Officer at RSA and Greg Freeman, CEO at Data Literacy Academy where they discuss how to successfully adopt AI inside organisations, which includes; Why AI adoption is a business…
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S5 | Ep 38 | The Evolving Data Leadership Landscape; What It Means for Your Next Career Move with Executive Career Coach, Julia Westland
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59:21In Episode 38, of Season 5 of Driven by Data: The Podcast, Kyle Winterbottom was joined by Executive Career Coach, Julia Westland. Julia spent many years as a Data & Analytics professional working in management consulting before transitioning into headhunting where she led Spencer Stuarts Digital, Data & AI practice, before becoming a career coach.…
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S5 | Ep 37 | $100m+ in EBIT Impact with Ash Dhupar, Chief Data & AI Officer at Analog Devices
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52:12In Episode 37, of Season 5 of Driven by Data: The Podcast, Kyle Winterbottom was joined by Ash Dhupar, Chief Data & AI Officer at Analog Devices (Fortune 500) where we explore how data leaders can link their work directly to measurable EBIT and revenue gains, and how the Chief Data Officer role has shifted from “data quality” to “profitability driv…
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S5 | Ep 36 | Why Most Businesses are Placing the Wrong AI Bets with Daniel Hulme, Chief AI Officer at WPP / CEO at Satalia and Conscium
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54:38In Episode 36, of Season 5 of Driven by Data: The Podcast, Kyle Winterbottom i re-joined by Daniel Hulme, a leading authority in the world of AI and Chief AI Officer at WPP (as well as being CEO at Satalia and Conscium) Kyle and Daniel discuss the rapid evolution of AI and its implications for various sectors. They explore the concept of agentic AI…
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S5 | Ep 35 | Data Products: The Key to Value Delivery with Dan Taffler, Group Director of Data & Analytics at Reach Plc
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58:17In Episode 35, of Season 5 of Driven by Data: The Podcast, Kyle Winterbottom was joined by Dan Taffler, Group Director of Data & Analytics at Reach Plc, where they discuss Dan's journey in data leadership, and managing Data & Analytics for a group of 120 brands. They also delve into the impact of AI on journalism, and the importance of a product mi…
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Migration: The needle in the data haystack
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32:51With migration continuing to make headlines in the media, we unpack what actually defines a "migrant", and how the UK's largest producer of official statistics goes about counting them. We also shed light on the misuse of migration figures. Transcript MILES FLETCHER Hello and a very warm welcome to a new series of Statistically Speaking - the offic…
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S5 | Ep 34 | Limiting Beliefs; The Chasm Between Value Potential and Value Realisation with Malcolm Hawker, Chief Data Officer at Profisee
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55:57In Episode 34, of Season 5 of Driven by Data: The Podcast, Kyle Winterbottom was re-joined by Malcolm Hawker, Chief Data Officer at Profisee, fresh off the publication of his new book 'The Data Hero Playbook' They discuss what prompted him to write the book and the insights from within it, how he kept witnessing the same issues and challenges while…
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S5 | Ep 33 | People, Skills and Culture: The Keys to Data & AI Success with Cali Wood, Head of Data & AI Strategy & Culture at AXA UK & Ireland
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44:08In Episode 33, of Season 5 of Driven by Data: The Podcast, Kyle Winterbottom was joined by Cali Wood, Head of Data & AI Strategy and Culture at AXA UK and Ireland, where they discuss the evolution of data culture within AXA, the importance of balancing innovation with governance in AI, and the strategies for promoting data literacy across the organ…
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S5 | Ep 32 | The Success Factor for Enterprise Leaders to Adopt and Scale AI with Arun Nandi, Chief Data & AI Officer at Carrier
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55:12In Episode 32, of Season 5 of Driven by Data: The Podcast, Kyle Winterbottom was joined by Arun Nandi, Chief Data and AI Officer at Carrier, where they discuss the transformative role of AI in business and its potential impact on climate change. They explore the importance of a value-first mindset in AI initiatives, the need for cultural alignment …
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S5 | Ep 31 | The AI Disconnect Between Technology and it's Promises with Catarina Miranda, Global AI Director at Pandora
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55:03In Episode 31, of Season 5 of Driven by Data: The Podcast, Kyle Winterbottom was joined by Catarina Miranda, Global AI Director at Pandora, where she shares her unique journey from biomedical engineering to AI and machine learning. She discusses the importance of AI literacy and governance within organisations, the recent breakthroughs in AI techno…
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S5 | Ep 30 | From Data to Profit; Navigating the AI Transformation Journey with Vin Vashishta, CEO/Founder at V Squared
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58:16In Episode 30, of Season 5 of Driven by Data: The Podcast, Kyle Winterbottom was joined by Vin Vashishta, CEO & Founder of V Squared and author of best-selling book 'From Data to Profit' where they discuss the evolution of AI and data strategy in businesses. Vin shares insights from his book 'Data to Profit', discussing the importance of data in ac…
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S5 | Ep 29 | Green Intelligence: The Role of AI and Data in Sustainable Energy with Sam Hancock, Global Head of Data Science at Octopus Energy
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49:11In Episode 29, of Season 5 of Driven by Data: The Podcast, Kyle Winterbottom was joined by Sam Hancock, Global Head of Data Science at Octopus Energy. Sam shares his unconventional career journey from Capital One to Google and Waymo and ultimately to Octopus Energy, where he focuses on leveraging data to drive the company's mission of accelerating …
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S5 | Ep 28 | AI Upskilling: Rethinking Readiness, Responsibility, and Real Impact with McKinley Hyden, Director of Data Value & Strategy at Financial Times.
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56:43In Episode 28, of Season 5 of Driven by Data: The Podcast, Kyle Winterbottom was joined by McKinley Hyden, Director of Data Value & Strategy at Financial Times, where they discuss McKinley's journey from a background in literature to a career in data, the role of the Financial Times in providing quality journalism, and the importance of data in dri…
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S5 | Ep 27 | The Execution Disconnect: Closing the Distance Between Strategy and Delivery with Indhira Mani, Chief Data Officer at RSA
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48:07In Episode 27, of Season 5 of Driven by Data: The Podcast, Kyle Winterbottom was joined by Indhira Mani, Chief Data Officer at RSA, where they discuss the disconnect that often exists between strategy and execution, and what it takes to actually deliver, which includes; Transforming from legacy to modernisation and then innovation. Shaping data as …
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S5 | Ep 26 | Creating the Pull Factor for Value Creation with Steven Pimblett, Chief Data Officer at Rightmove
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42:39In Episode 26, of Season 5 of Driven by Data: The Podcast, Kyle Winterbottom was joined by Steven Pimblett, Chief Data Officer at Rightmove, where they discuss how to create the pull factor and aligning capabilities, operating model and value levers, which includes; Being the 1st CDO at Rightmove. Both a B2B and B2C business model and an expanding …
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S5 | Ep 25 | Creating Synergy: The Benefits of Centralisation with Matt Lovell, Group Director of Data & AI at JD Sports (Group)
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50:41In Episode 25, of Season 5 of Driven by Data: The Podcast, Kyle Winterbottom is joined by Matt Lovell, Group Director of Data & AI at JD Sports Group, where they discuss the benefits of centralising data & AI leadership, which includes; The importance of building centralised data leadership in complex, multi-brand organisations. Why federated model…
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S5 | Ep 24 | Benefit Realisation: A Business Focused Approach to Data & Analytics Leadership with Angela Pearce, Chief Data Officer at Pension Insurance Corporation Plc
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46:47In Episode 24, of Season 5 of Driven by Data: The Podcast, Kyle Winterbottom is joined by Angela Pearce, Chief Data Officer at Pension Insurance Corporation Plc, where they discuss how a varied career background and business focused approach allowed her to deliver multi-million pound benefits, which includes; Why working in hospitality early in her…
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S5 | Ep 23 | Rethinking Work: People, Agents & the Future of HR with Angela Le Mathon, Vice President; People Data & Analytics at GSK
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52:08In Episode 23, of Season 5 of Driven by Data: The Podcast, Kyle Winterbottom is joined by Angela Le Mathon, Vice President; People Data & Analytics at GSK, where they discuss the role of HR in an Agentic AI enabled world and it's implications on the workforce, which includes; Differences between applying analytics in HR versus other domains. Why pe…
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S5 | Ep 22 | Everything You Need to Know About Data Leadership Hiring with Kyle Winterbottom, CEO/Founder of Orbition Group
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55:45In Episode 22, of Season 5 of Driven by Data: The Podcast, Kyle Winterbottom shifts from host to guest as we're joined by a 'special guest host' where Kyle is quizzed on all things related to the data and analytics talent landscape, which includes; Spending almost 15 years in D&A Talent. Starting Orbition in lockdown in 2020. Having bold, controver…
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S5 | Ep 21 | The Intersection of Organisational Culture, Operating Models and Transformation with Dan Robertson, Chief Data Officer at Bupa UK
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49:45In Episode 20, of Season 5 of Driven by Data: The Podcast, Kyle Winterbottom is joined by Dan Robertson, Chief Data & Analytics Officer at Bupa, where they discuss the relationship between organisational culture, operating models, change and transformation and delivering value, which includes; How doing a business degree fuelled an interest in usin…
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S5 | Ep 20 | The Ocado Transformation Story: Redefining Grocery Through Data, AI & Automation with Gabriel Straub, Chief Data Officer at Ocado Technology
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41:24In Episode 20, of Season 5 of Driven by Data: The Podcast, Kyle Winterbottom is joined by Gabriel Straub, Chief Data Officer at Ocado Group, where they discuss how data, AI and automation transformed Ocado and redefined the grocery sector, which includes; Utilising 3rd party technology and the realisation that it wasn’t good enough. Evolving from a…
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S5 | Ep 19 | The Power of Instinct; Why We Could Be Less Data-Driven with Simon Jury, Chief Data Officer at Kingfisher
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49:21In Episode 19, of Season 5 of Driven by Data: The Podcast, Kyle Winterbottom is joined by Simon Jury, Chief Data Officer at Kingfisher, where they discuss the power of instinct and why you shouldn't always ignore it, which includes; Insights from decoupling ASDA from Walmart as VP of Data. Why building the right operating model for a group structur…
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S5 | Ep 18 | The Learnings of Being a CDO on the Board of a PLC with Rob Kent, Data & AI Leader at Greggs
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45:09In Episode 18, of Season 5 of Driven by Data: The Podcast, Kyle Winterbottom is joined by Rob Kent, Data & AI Leader at Greggs, where they discuss the learnings from reporting to a CEO and being on the board of a UK Plc, which includes; Starting a career in IT over 30 years ago. Building D&A functions from scratch on multiple occasions. How the com…
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S5 | Ep 17 | Behind The Curtain: The Self-Inflicted Barriers to CDO Success with Steve Green, Chief Data & Analytics Officer at Sumitomo Mitsui Banking Corporation (SMBC)
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53:18In Episode 17, of Season 5 of Driven by Data: The Podcast, Kyle Winterbottom is joined by Steve Green, Chief Data & Analytics Officer at Sumitomo Mitsui Banking Corporation (SMBC) where they discuss the self-inflicted barriers to CDO success, which includes: Transitioning from being a true technologist into a change agent. Setting up a chief data o…
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S5 | Ep 16 | Building a Data Confident Organisation with Helen Blaikie, Chief Data & Analytics Officer at Aston University
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57:23In Episode 16, of Season 5 of Driven by Data: The Podcast, Kyle Winterbottom is joined by Helen Blaikie, Chief Data & Analytics Officer at Aston University, where they discuss the comprehensive programme they've executed to help them build a truly data confident organisation, which includes; The implications of covid on the higher education sector …
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S5 | Ep 15 | Research on the Dark Side of Data; When Risks Outweigh Benefits with Heather Wade, Data Transformation Director at Johnson Matthey
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50:02In Episode 15, of Season 5 of Driven by Data: The Podcast, Kyle Winterbottom is joined by Heather Wade, Data Transformation Director at Johnson Matthey, where they discuss research findings that attempt to understand what happens when risks outweigh benefits, which includes; Learnings from taking all the best bits from consumer data into a differen…
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S5 | Ep 14 | The Secret to Data Democratisation with Bhagya Reddy, Executive Director of Empowerment and Collaboration at Virgin Media O2
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42:05In Episode 14, of Season 5 of Driven by Data: The Podcast, Kyle Winterbottom is joined by Bhagya Reddy, Executive Director of Empowerment and Collaboration at Virgin Media O2, where they discuss how having a role focused on empowerment and collaboration is the secret to data democratisation, which includes: Having a passion of making data accessibl…
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S5 | Ep 13 | Leading with Data: The CDO’s Path to COO with Tamara Castelli, Chief Operating Officer at UNiDAYS
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51:23In Episode 13, of Season 5 of Driven by Data: The Podcast, Kyle Winterbottom is joined by Tamara Castelli, Chief Operating Officer at UNiDAYS where they discuss her transition from leading a data and insights team to becoming the Chief Operating Officer, which includes: Falling out of love with the theory of academia Being driven by seeing applicat…
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S5 | E12 | Executive Leadership: The Barriers to Innovation with Murtz Daud, Director of Data & AI at British Gas Business
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53:16In Episode 12, of Season 5 of Driven by Data: The Podcast, Kyle Winterbottom is joined by Murtz Daud, Director of Data & AI Director of Data & AI at British Gas Business, to discuss the barriers to data innovation, which includes: The different views on what a Data & Analytics function is – starting with the fundamental question: why do we need thi…
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S5 | E11 | Speed to Value: The Benefits of Data Product Management with Darren Wood, Data Product Leader at BBC
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58:16In Episode 11, of Season 5 of Driven by Data: The Podcast, Kyle Winterbottom is joined by Darren Wood, Data Product Leader at BBC, and they talk about the benefits of Data Product Management, in which they talk about: The helpfulness and collaborative nature of the data community How the BBC is advancing digitalisation and personalisation Understan…
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S5 | E10 | Quantifying Your Value: The framework used to realise £100m profit with Peter Everill
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1:05:25In Episode 10, of Season 5 of Driven by Data: The Podcast, Kyle Winterbottom is joined by Peter Everill, AI, ML & Data Product Leader for a European Retailer for a LinkedIn Live event, and they discuss the importance of quantifying value, in which they talk about: How data can significantly impact P&L performance Why the USP of the data team lies i…
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S5 | E9 | Value as the North Star with Paul Hollands, Chief Data & Analytics Officer at AXA
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50:15In Episode 9, of Season 5 of Driven by Data: The Podcast. Kyle Winterbottom is joined by Paul Hollands, Chief Data & Analytics Officer at AXA where they talk about value as the North Star, in which they discuss: How structuring the data agenda can drive impact as the first CDAO at the UK & Ireland level. How a clear North Star helps AXA UK & Irelan…
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S5 | E8 | A Seat at the Table: Earning the License To Operate with Rosh Awatar, Managing Director - Group Data & Analytics at Sky
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45:44In Episode 8, of Season 5 of Driven by Data: The Podcast. Kyle Winterbottom is joined by Rosh Awatar, Managing Director at Sky, and they discuss the importance of getting data's seat at the table, which they discuss: The challenge of getting data leaders involved in key business decisions Why data leaders need to steer the business, not just suppor…
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S5 | E7 | Change & Transformation: The First & Last Mile with Matt Stebbings, Petcare D&A Transformation Director at Mars
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53:37In Episode 7, of Season 5 of Driven by Data: The Podcast, Kyle Winterbottom is joined by Matt Stebbings, Petcare D&A Transformation Director at Mars Petcare, where they discuss the importance of the first and last mile in change & transformation, which includes; Transitioning from an engineering and IT background to a growth function at Mars Petcar…
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S5 | E6 | Business Process; Data Management’s Moment to Shine with Aldwin Tito, Chief Data Officer at Shell
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52:36In Episode 6, of Season 5 of Driven by Data: The Podcast. Kyle Winterbottom is joined by Aldwin Tito, Chief Data Officer at Shell where they talk about Business Processes and Data Management, in which they discuss: How data management can be effective without relying on expensive tools. The critical role of asset management within Shell. How naviga…
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S5 | E5 | Why ‘The War for Talent’ is now ‘The War for Talent Intelligence' with Matthew Doucette, Director, Technical Recruitment at Deliveroo
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53:45In Episode 5, of Season 5 of Driven by Data: The Podcast. Kyle Winterbottom is joined by Matthew Doucette, Director of Technical Recruitment at Deliveroo to talk about the role of data within talent acquisition and how it's now a 'war for talent intelligence', where they discuss: How recruitment data hasn’t evolved much since 2009, despite having m…
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S5 | E4 | Bigger Data, Better Possibilities with Loretta Franks, Chief Data & Analytics Officer at Kellanova
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46:09In Episode 4, of Season 5 of Driven by Data: The Podcast. Kyle Winterbottom is joined by Loretta Franks, Chief Data & Analytics Officer at Kellanova, where they discuss the transition from Kellogg’s to Kellanova and the role of data in driving business success, which includes; Managing the transition from Kellogg’s to Kellanova during a historic or…
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