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Comedian Mo Fry Pasic wants to know: how’d you get your act together? Every week, Mo is interviewing one of today's most captivating entertainers about their creative process. Listen in as writers, directors, and performers like Julio Torres, Sudi Green, and Demi Adejuyigbe reflect on their careers, the projects that mean the most to them, and why they make their art. A Good Get and Disco Nap Co-Production. Join us on Patreon for ad free episodes, bonus video episodes, and more! https://www. ...
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Each week on My Favorite Lyrics, comedian and SNL cast member Devon Walker invites people he thinks are cool to talk about the music that shaped them and the lyrics they can't get out of their heads. Iconic, idiotic, or accidentally profound, no bar is safe. My Favorite Lyrics is hosted by Devon Walker and produced by ⁠⁠⁠Disco Nap⁠⁠⁠.
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Power Naps have been proven to help you get the rest and energy you need and get back on track. In as little as 20 minutes, the Power Nap podcast can help get you in and out of sleep quickly - easily and (best of all) naturally. Our unique isochronic tones have been shown to help people easily enter a sleep state and bring you back to being fully awake, refreshed, and ready to take on the rest of your day. So forget the coffee and, take a power nap podcast instead. We have power naps in a va ...
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Director Anu Valia has a knack for staying present, whether she's on set for a hit comedy series or in post-production on one of her films. This week, she joins Mo to discuss finding the feeling in every scene, trusting outside voices, and looking to other art forms for inspiration. Anu's on Instagram @anuvalia. Her feature film We Strangers is in …
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Comedian and fellow lyric dissector Langston Kerman joins Devon on the pod this week to break down the legacy of Bow Wow, Usher’s biggest fanbase and the underrated genius of 2 Chainz. Langston Kerman is self-described in his Instagram bio as a “stand-up comedian, actor, writer, thot.” Kerman’s most recent Netflix special is titled “Bad Poetry,” di…
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What happens when your creative outlet becomes a career? It’s a question that comedian Devon Walker has navigated ever since being cast on SNL. He joins Mo this week to discuss his journey to 30 Rock, how he’s let go of audience expectations, and why he’d rather hear about your job than talk about his. Devon’s on Instagram @internetdevon. You can h…
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If you’re a music process lover, this episode is for you. Acclaimed musical savante and Saturday Night Live Music Director Eli Brueggemann joins Devon on the pod this week!The duo discuss the lyrical genius of “WAP,” talk through how popular music has changed and reflect on Eli’s involvement in the ‘conscious rap’ era. Keyboardist, producer, compos…
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Josh Sharp has just begun rehearsals for his Off-Broadway debut. It’s billed as a solo show, but technically, Josh has a scene partner: a 2,000-slide PowerPoint presentation. He joins Mo this week to discuss what it's been like to find synchronicity with a slideshow, how theater feels different from any film or TV set he’s worked on, and why he's r…
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Strip club aficionado and fellow stand-up Sam Jay joins Devon on the pod this week to break down her favorite Chingy song, reminisce on her “last straight day,” and pay some major respect to the talent of Ludacris. Sam Jay is a stand-up comedian and writer. She is best known as a writer for Saturday Night Live, her Netflix comedy special 3 in the M…
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Joel Kim Booster knows the power of pining: if there’s even a chance that a script he loves can be produced, he’ll work tirelessly on it. But you won't find him waiting around for a yes—for every project he has in development, he's already drafting another. This week, he joins Mo to discuss how he reverse-engineered self-confidence on stage, what i…
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Can we talk our sh*t? The supremely talented musician Vagabon joins Devon on the pod this week to reveal which songs she thinks “have drugs in them,” lay out her ideal music festival lineup, and get to the root of why musicians are ultimately cooler than comedians. Laetitia Tamko better known by her stage name Vagabon, is a Cameroonian-American sel…
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Vico Ortiz sees their career as a relationship. And they're putting in the work to keep it from becoming toxic. That means pursuing projects that feel aligned with their values, invite them to hone new skills, and fulfill their spirit—like their new solo show Rise of a King. This week, they join Mo to discuss their experience writing both English a…
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It's Reezy, baby. Comedian, podcast host, and dating expert Marie Faustin joins Devon this week to break down her five favorite types of songs, the formula for a perfect Tyler Perry movie, why she cannot listen to a full Future album, and what "Encore" by Linkin Park did for race relations. Marie Faustin is an NYC-based comedian and actress. She ha…
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If you have one takeaway from this episode, it’s that it’s time to leave Drake alone. Our resident Caucasian bops expert Jaboukie joins Devon on the pod to pay Nicki Minaj her respects, recount the delusion of creating his own music, and to flag Lady Gaga’s latest album a recession indicator. Jaboukie Young-White is a writer, comic, actor, musician…
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Sometimes the most meaningful art exists in the interstices, where a blank canvas becomes a space that's separate from work or family or the churn of everyday life. And this week, we're celebrating this type of art with a very special guest: Mo's sibling Anna Pasic. Listen in as Mo and Anna discuss removing urgency from their art, what mutual aid h…
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Ronald Young Jr. is building his career in audio the same way that he'd like to build a house: with care, intentionality, and a strong foundation. And with each project that he releases, he wants listeners to hear that he's making progress. This week, he joins Mo to discuss how he approaches his critically acclaimed podcasts like Weight For It, the…
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Gitchie gitchie ya-ya, da-da… Sydnee Washington is on the pod this week! Syd and Devon dive deep on the lyrical magic that comes from Lil’ Kim, explain the “drugs to Jesus pipline,” and claim that a lack of mystique is hurting R&B. Sydnee Washington is a comedian, actress, model, and podcaster. She appeared on Comedy Central's Up Next showcase and …
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Devon is joined by a true homie, Mary Beth Barone — stand-up comedian and star of Prime Video’s Overcompensating — to talk about some lyrics. There’s the song that flatlined a college hookup, a surprising case for Lil Wayne as the voice of the working class, and a vulnerable moment where Mary Beth asks herself the toughest question of all: does she…
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Becky Chicoine and Sam Reece met as UCB interns more than a decade ago. Since then, they've headlined comedy festivals across the country and co-written and co-starred in filmed projects like their upcoming short Apocalypse Besties. This week, they join Mo to reflect on their enduring creative partnership as Girls with Brown Hair—with talk of theat…
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Hosting a popular web series wasn’t part of Catherine McCafferty’s plan. But when her friends Sam Reich and Elaine Carroll asked her to collaborate, she leapt at the opportunity. What resulted was the dating show Pretty Gay, which has seen twenty-fold growth in just over a year. She joins Mo this week to discuss her non-linear creative path, how sh…
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Punctual Petey is in the building! This week, Devon is joined by Bronx native Petey DeAbreu to talk about the music born out of his community, Cardi B’s teeth, and DMX’s very real spiritual connection to dogs. Whether you grew up on mixtapes or just love hearing two comics obsess over lyrics, you’ll want to be on time for this one. My Favorite Lyri…
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For the very first episode of My Favorite Lyrics, Devon kicks things off with one of his funniest friends and favorite creative partners: stand-up comedian (and debatably gifted vocalist) Alex English. In this episode, Alex breaks down why R&B is “straight people’s business,” passionately defends bisexual king Frank Ocean, and shares his hot take o…
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Ashley Ray was told that she would need to choose between writing comedy and writing about it. But as an acclaimed critic, TV writer, and stand-up comedian, she's having the last laugh. This week, she joins Mo to discuss bringing her critical sensibility to all of her creative work, how she juggled a full-time job with a burgeoning stand-up career,…
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Each week on My Favorite Lyrics, comedian and SNL cast member Devon Walker invites people he thinks are cool to talk about the music that shaped them and the lyrics they can't get out of their heads. Iconic, idiotic, or accidentally profound, no bar is safe. The first episode drops Tuesday, April 29th. My Favorite Lyrics is hosted by Devon Walker a…
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Experiencing Richard Perez's comedy is a lot like riding a rollercoaster: one moment, you're laughing your head off; the next, you're clutching your heart. This week, Richard joins Mo to discuss taking big swings on stage, his leap from photography to comedy, and why he's never written down his solo show I Have To Do This. You can see Richard on to…
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Vinny Thomas lets his characters speak to him, whether he's playing a pigeon at Pride or Clarence Thomas's grandson. He joins Mo this week to discuss his viral comedy videos, his dream of hosting a Jeff Corwin-style show about animals, and his absolutely, one hundred percent neutral opinions on a certain early 2000s reality TV host. Vinny is on Ins…
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By the age of three, comedian Ruby Karp had made her Upright Citizens Brigade debut. By the age of ten, she was performing stand-up across New York City. Now in her mid-twenties, she's settling into her comedic voice—and doing so with the maturity and grace of someone who's been working on their craft for more than half their life. Ruby joins Mo th…
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Comedian Kyle Ayers feels funniest when he's not in control. But after brain surgery for Trigeminal neuralgia, he wondered whether he could be funny at all. He joins Mo this week to discuss how he's reclaimed a sense of adventure on stage, why he thinks stand-up is becoming a more patient art form, and what it was like to perform in an Edinburgh pl…
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For Parvati Shallow, life is a game—and she's playing it authentically. She joins Mo this week to discuss what it's been like to take control of her own narrative after nearly two decades of appearing on reality TV competitions, how she creates a genuine rapport with on-screen allies, and why there's more to survival than fight or flight. You can f…
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This week, we're honored to present an episode of At Liberty, from our friends at the ACLU. Every other week, host W. Kamau Bell is asking the big questions on the big issues affecting our country. Recent episodes cover immigration rights and LGBTQIA+ rights, and today, we're sharing an episode about disability rights. We hope you'll listen, and su…
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Writer and actor Jeffery Self isn't afraid to let go—whether he's pursuing a creative path that doesn't feel generative or reflecting on an early project of his. He writes, too, with a reflexive self-awareness, and an openness that's as vulnerable as it is steady-handed. This week, he joins Mo to discuss treating mental health as a perpetual roomma…
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Artmaking can help heal us emotionally; for Kate Helen Downey, that healing process has also been physical. Kate's spent more than two decades living with severe period cramps, but it was only when she picked up a microphone for her new podcast CRAMPED that doctors started to take her seriously. This week, she joins Mo to discuss how she shows hers…
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Tim Platt is a creative polymath: he can write songs, he can draw, and he can commit so hard to a bit that he ends up infiltrating a multi-level marketing scheme for healthy energy drinks. At the heart of all his work is a desire for collaboration, and for over a decade, he's been Mo's other half in the comedy duo Pasic & Platt. Tim joins Mo this w…
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It’s one thing for an audience to separate the art from the artist. But what if an artist wants to keep aspects of their life separate from their art? Sasheer Zamata has spent over a decade navigating this precarious balance, from her early days on SNL to her recent turn in Agatha All Along. She joins Mo this week to discuss how she stays authentic…
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For actor and comedian Chris Grace, writing a solo show isn't the hard part. Neither is performing it. It's the feeling that he should always be doing more—more promotion, more show dates, or more new material—that he has to contend with. This week, Chris and Mo get into the complexities of staging a solo show—especially one at the Edinburgh Fringe…
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Writer and director Bri LeRose periodically asks herself: if a teenage Bri, living in Wisconsin, looked at her career today, would she think it was enough? And the answer's always yes: she would have thought it was the coolest thing in the world to even share space with the people she admired. Today, Bri joins Mo to discuss her comedy process, from…
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If you’re a regular listener of Worse Than You, then you know that Albertina Rizzo is inner circle. Albertina and Mo connect through the shared philosophy that life is funny, even the sad parts. And that being funny and interested in life is the key to joy. Albs joins Mo this week to discuss writing for late night, how she follows the fun on—and of…
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It's not every day that we get to witness someone's process on the eve of a major creative milestone. Today's one of those special days. Join us in celebrating our dear friend Chris Renfro as they make their Broadway debut in Oh, Mary! Mo and Chris discuss how Chris landed one of Broadway's most exciting roles as Mary's Teacher, the skills they're …
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A note from team Worse Than You: When we recorded our first batch of episodes for season two, we had no idea that we'd be releasing them amidst the ongoing, incomprehensible fires in LA. We hope that these conversations can bring comfort to our listeners as we process this difficult time together. Make sure you're following @meauxpas and @worsethan…
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Happy new year, dear friends! We figured you might want to start 2025 off with a burst of creative inspiration... and we've got you covered, with an early release from our new season, featuring Matt Rogers! Listen in as Mo and Matt reflect on their decade-long friendship, how they approach creative collaborations, and an early character of Matt's t…
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It's a new year, and we've got an all new season teed up for you! We're thrilled to announce that we'll be back on Wednesday, January 15, with weekly episodes to follow. And as a special gift for our listeners, we're releasing a full episode with Matt Rogers... today! So go take a listen, and make sure you're subscribed to the show so that you don'…
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We're celebrating our season finale with a very special guest: Sam Taggart! The Straightiolab co-host joins Mo to discuss millennial jokes, the fine line between judgement and critique, and the unforgettable night that Mo went blonde. We'll be back soon with new episodes, and an exciting new group of guests. Make sure to stay subscribed so you don'…
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Julio Torres has never let other people measure his success. This week, Julio joins Mo to discuss being a "zero waste" artist, embracing chaos and mess, and the Sex and the City scene that speaks best to his creative process. Plus, Mo shares a poem of Julio's that they've held for ten years. Julio Torres is an Emmy-nominated, Peabody-winning, and W…
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What does it mean to be gay? It's a question that actor and comedian Stephen Brower is working out in his stage show Palatable Gay Robot, where he plays HumaVibe's latest humanoid creation. Listen in as Mo and Stephen discuss sharing scenes with a voiceover, distinguishing theater from therapy, and the creative power of Snoopy! The Musical. Stephen…
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It's homecoming week for Worse Than You! Mo's back in LA and back in the saddle with their friend Greta Titelman to discuss the creative life cycle. When do we put the pen down and when do we run with the momentum; is a creation ever really complete? Greta Titelman is a comedian, actress, and writer. You know her from shows like Search Party and Lo…
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Part of the creative process is rest, and to mark the end of the Fringe festival, we're taking some this week! Instead of a Worse Than You episode, we're excited to share a conversation from our friends Chris Renfro and Fin Argus over at One of Us with Fin and Chris. Every week, they're hopping in a rocket ship and traveling to meet a new guest in …
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Was the real Edinburgh Fringe Festival the friends we made along the way? This week, Mo's unwinding with Catherine McCafferty and Demi Adejuyigbe before they all head back to LA. They talk about balancing their personal lives with their art, finding authentic relationships, and how far they'd commit to a bit for love. And hey, guess what, it's all …
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This week, we have two very special guests on the show: Brian McElhaney and Nick Kocher, also known as BriTANicK! Listen in as the duo talks about their decades-long creative partnership, how clowns have influenced their more recent work, and the "horrendous finale" that Edinburgh audiences couldn't handle. BriTANicK is an Emmy®-nominated sketch du…
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What starts as a catch-up between Mo and their best friend and creative collaborator Sudi Green turns into a sprawling conversation about what it means to “earn” a creative opportunity, the difference between a comedy show and a show that deploys humor, and why there’s no nuance on a poster. Missed Sudi and Mo's first conversation? Check it out her…
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When artist and comedian Kate Cheka looked at her astrological chart, she wasn't sure she'd make it to this year's Edinburgh Fringe Festival. We're so glad that she did. This week, Kate and Mo chat about how Kate addresses matters of race, class, and gender in her work; why morning people shouldn't be allowed to run society; and whether Kate is, in…
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This podcast's all about process, so we want to give you a peek behind the curtain of Mo's Edinburgh Fringe Festival run of Worse Than You! Listen in as Mo reflects on their first week of shows, the rapport they've been building with audiences, and the friends they're singing karaoke with along the way. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted by…
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Catherine Cohen's in the houuuuse this week! She and Mo chat about Cat's songwriting process, the joys of performing to a new crowd every night, and their first impressions of each other in New York's alt comedy scene. Catherine Cohen is a writer, singer, and comedian. You know her from her world tour and Netflix special The Twist... ? She's Gorgeo…
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Imagine a Victorian sprawled on a chaise lounge. Now give them tattoos or muscles, and place a boiled egg or other odd, unexpected object just out of reach. That's how Ella Evans describes her comedy. She joins Mo this week to discuss how she stretches the familiar, embraces the absurd, and tosses conventional writing wisdom out the window. Ella Ev…
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