Welcome to The INSIDE Public Accounting Podcast — a show for accounting firm leaders who want to make smarter, data-driven decisions and stay ahead of industry change. Each episode explores what IPA’s trusted benchmarking data reveals about firm performance, leadership and the future of the profession. From private equity and offshoring to partner compensation and the talent pipeline, we dive into the trends, challenges and innovations shaping public accounting today. Hosted by: Chelsea Summ ...
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Compensation Benchmarking Podcasts
Helping small and medium size businesses solve their HR issues and develop people strategies to drive success.
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This weekly (Fridays) series of messages is based on Multi-View Incorporated’s work with over 1,300 organizations, extracting 989 data-elements with 922 cross-calculations over 27 years on a monthly basis. And then “systematizing” the operational “Best-Known Success Patterns” of the 90th percentile. Our intent is to get beyond the “brag and the boast,” and simply share insights from our experience, without manipulation or coercion to sell anything except helpful ideas. MVI has helped create ...
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The conversation around outsourcing and offshoring in public accounting has shifted. What was once viewed with hesitation is now firmly part of the playbook for firms across the country. In this episode of the INSIDE Public Accounting Podcast, hosts Rob Brown and Chelsea Summers dive into the numbers behind the trend. Drawing on IPA’s exclusive sur…
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Lexy Kessler on Talent, Technology, and the Future of Accounting
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31:35Chelsea Summers and Rob Brown welcome Lexy Kessler, Chair of the American Institute of CPAs and partner at Aprio, to explore the 2040 Project — a strategic initiative mapping the profession’s future. From tackling pipeline challenges to integrating AI, Lexy shares why upskilling, adaptability and people skills are now strategic imperatives for firm…
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Ep. 14: Compensation - The ONLY Known Way to World-Class! (Pt. 2 of 4)
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57:17This is the 2nd installment from this national broadcast on the topic of Compensation. Andrew shares REALITY from his work with 38 non-healthcare companies he helped create Compensation systems for, and applies the Success Patterns to Hospice and Homecare operations. A person of Intelligence should be able to transpose the principles from this broa…
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Legacy vs. Lift-Off: Can New CPA Firms Still Break Through?
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12:24In this episode of the Inside Public Accounting Podcast, Rob Brown and Chelsea Summers explore a timely question: Are new CPA firms still breaking through? While the average Top 100 firm is nearly 69 years old, some new firms are managing to carve out space in a landscape dominated by legacy players. Chelsea shares findings from IPA's latest resear…
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Analyzing the Top 500: IPA’s Insights on Strategy, Specialization and Scale
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17:20In this episode of INSIDE Public Accounting, Rob and Chelsea analyze the full landscape of the 2025 IPA 500 rankings—not just the top-tier firms, but the hundreds of firms driving real innovation beneath the headlines. Topics in this episode: Performance trends in the top 100, including private equity influence, revenue growth and productivity metr…
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Ep. 13: Compensation - The ONLY Known Way to World-Class! (Pt. 1 of 4)
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1:09:23"We live in a world of Incentives and Disincentives." And if we are intelligent, we can solve most of our organizations problems and frustrations by aligning our compensation systems with the results we want to achieve. In MVI's measurements, NO ORGANIZATION HAS EVER ACHIEVED AND MAINTAINED WORLD-CLASS QUALITY AND ECONOMICS WITHOUT ADDRESSING THEIR…
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The 2025 IPA 500: Power Plays, Fast Risers & Big Exits
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15:41The 2025 IPA 500 list is here. In this fast-paced episode of the INSIDE Public Accounting podcast, Rob Brown and Chelsea Summers go full horse race. No big-picture trends this time — it's all about who’s new, who’s rising fast, and who’s out. Highlights include: The debutants: Firms like Sorren (#61) and H&Co (#66) enter with bold moves or private …
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The IPA 500 is just days away—and in this episode, we take you inside the rankings that define the accounting profession. Chelsea Summers and Rob Brown break down how firms qualify for the list, the strategies behind the biggest climbers, and key trends firm leaders need to know now. You’ll hear: What it really takes to make the list The rising rev…
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Ep. 12: Designing an Effective People System: 3) Developing Talent – 4) Retaining Talent (2 of 2)
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1:09:29This episode completes the 2nd process, People Selection, and continues a dive into the remaining 2 processes of a World-Class People System, 3) People Development and 4) People Retention. A company’s Quality is “no more or less” than the Quality of its People Systems. The processes in these systems dictate exactly the Quality of the organization’s…
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In this episode of The INSIDE Public Accounting Podcast, Rob Brown and Chelsea Summers take a first look at early findings from the 2025 IPA Practice Management Survey. The data tells a story of change—but also one of adaptation, strategy and opportunity. From evolving growth rates to expanded outsourcing strategies and shifts in licensure, firms a…
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Private Equity in Public Accounting: Disruption or Opportunity?
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15:33In Episode 2 of The INSIDE Public Accounting Podcast, hosts Rob Brown and Chelsea Summers unpack the results of a pulse survey of 163 accounting firms on one of the profession’s most controversial trends: private equity. Chelsea shares insights from IPA’s latest research, including how firm leaders are navigating growth, autonomy, and culture in a …
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Ep. 11: Designing an Effective People System: 1) Talent Attraction – 2) Talent Selection (1 of 2)
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1:11:39Every company says, “People are our greatest asset”…BUT…most have very little insight how to actually find, select, and develop employees, let alone, retain them! Otherwise, the turnover of employees would be a nonissue as it RARELY would happen and quality would be measured in terms of “thousands of interactions” without a single screw up or compl…
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Welcome to The INSIDE Public Accounting Podcast
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11:18In this inaugural episode of The INSIDE Public Accounting Podcast, hosts Chelsea Summers and Rob Brown introduce a new weekly show designed for firm leaders who want to stay ahead of the curve. Hear how this podcast will bring the profession’s most trusted data to life—translating charts and trends into actionable insights. Chelsea shares how IPA’s…
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Ep. 10: People Development: The Foundation of Your Success!
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47:18In this “DYNAMIC” episode, Andrew Reed, speaking to hundreds of CEOs and Senior Executives in a national broadcast, makes a compelling case: Your Company’s Quality is No More or Less than the Quality of your People Development System! Hard-earned lessons, through blood experience and insights, are shared as Andrew INTRODUCES the utterly important o…
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COMING SOON: The INSIDE Public Accounting Podcast
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1:51Welcome to a new voice in the accounting profession. The INSIDE Public Accounting Podcast launches soon—bringing you weekly insights, data-driven trends, and leadership strategies from the team behind the IPA 500 and the industry’s most respected reports. In each episode, hosts Chelsea Summers and Rob Brown will go beyond the numbers to unpack the …
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Ep. 9: People Development: The 3 Questions
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42:03Recorded in the Japan House overlooking the middle pond in the Awakened Forest with a group of CEOs and Chief Educational Officers, Andrew Reed merely “scratches” the surface of MVI’s meticulous work on Extraordinary People Development Systems, explaining “The 3 Questions” used to start meetings to help create a mature, healthy and life-changing cu…
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Ep. 8: The Seldom Spoken Aspects of Leadership (4 of 4)
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50:14In this fourth and final installment, Andrew Reed talks about Standardization, how to run Meetings, and also covers a lot of way to view Leadership to make it better(or easier!). This isn’t a motivational pep talk. It’s the final reality check in a series that dismantles surface-level Leadership theory. Reed pulls no punches as he describes the emo…
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Ep. 7: The Seldom Spoken Aspects of Leadership (3 of 4)
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40:37“Leadership isn’t about control — it’s about creating the 'Conditions for Success'.” In this third installment, Andrew Reed goes into the Burden of Leadership, the aspects of Leadership that are unconsidered with pedestrian views of the topic. Reed strips away the polish and dives into REALITY. It’s not about charisma or command — it’s about clarit…
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Ep. 6: The Seldom Spoken Aspects of Leadership (2 of 4)
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41:22In Part 2 of this powerful series on leadership, Andrew Reed turns the spotlight on the Seldom Spoken Aspects of Leadership — the stuff you won't find in standard training manuals. From the illusion of control to the pursuit of self-mastery, this episode dives deep into the emotional, psychological, and spiritual strength required to truly lead. Dr…
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Ep. 5: The Seldom Spoken Aspects of Leadership (1 of 4)
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45:13Adapted from MVI’s Empowerment Hour: The COMPLETE Seldom Spoken Aspects of Leadership In the first installment of this four-part series, Andrew Reed strips leadership down to its raw, unsanitized truth. Recorded live during Multi-View Inc.’s Empowerment Hour, this episode focuses on the often-unspoken REALITIES of Leadership — the kind of insight y…
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Ep. 4: The Value of a Vision to Create FOCUS
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39:16VISION!!! Often seen as “squishy” - a waste of time, especially if you’ve sat through “Vision Statement Creating” meetings. However, Vision is, in fact, one of the most VALUABLE things a person, as well as an organization, can make! Why? A great Vision can change your LIFE! Literally! It seems that Human beings need a “Bright Horizon” to look forwa…
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Ep. 3: Operating as a Coherent, Integrated System of Mutual Reliance
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46:37Operating an organization as an “integrated, coherent whole” is something most CEOs aspire to have… But it is RARELY accomplished. Not achieving this level of integration causes disfunction, waste and creates a miserable work atmosphere of frustration. It is disheartening… and, like a Natural system, like a human body, it is not healthy. What does …
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Ep. 2: Outliers & Best-Known Success Patterns
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27:05What separates the 90th percentile from the rest? In this episode, Andrew Reed explores what it truly means to be an Outlier — not by personality, pedigree, or raw talent, but by the consistent application of what MVI calls the “Best-Known Success Patterns.” These are not theories or trends, but proven behaviors and structures observed in elite ind…
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Ep. 1: Designing the Perfect Company (Foundational Message)
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36:15In the premiere episode, Andrew Reed — founder of Multi-View Incorporated — offers a foundational blueprint for designing an organization that balances profit and purpose. From the tranquil mountaintop retreat known as the Awakened Forest, Reed draws on over 27 years of system-based research across 1,300 companies to illuminate the “best known succ…
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Employee development may be more important than ever in today’s changing job market. Employee development is mutually beneficial for both employees and businesses as employees improve existing competencies and develop new skills while supporting the goals of business and filling skill gaps. We are talking with our guest Christina Rossini about some…
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Let's don't make things more complicated than they really are. Having a great company culture can actually be rooted in the basics and made to be pretty simple. Today, we are looking at some of the foundational elements of a great culture that every organization should have at their center. Glen Morrell started his career in the Fortune 500 world, …
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In today’s episode, we look at what would happen if we as organizational leaders, begin to reshuffle the tasks within job descriptions to match up to everybody's giftings/genius? If employees are working in their gifting area, they are more productive and fulfilled. Working outside their giftings/genius leads to being frustrated and unfulfilled in …
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In this episode, we are discussing the People Equation and the 5 R’s of HR in relation to the employee life cycle. The 5 R's which include recruiting, ramping, rewarding, retaining and removing are significant to the journey of each employee within the company and the overall success of your business. Remember, your employees are your most valuable…
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Today we are talking about what it looks like to have a healthy leadership strategy in your organization. Leading through influence – not authority which creates a healthy culture for growing leaders. We discuss various components of having an intentional strategy as being a differentiator for your business and the core characteristics of a healthy…
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Most people are not born a great leader. They have to grow into it with time, effort, development and training. Today, we discuss some key areas of developing leadership tools that can take you to the next level. Our guest in today's episode is Richard Best, President/CEO of Lead Executive Consulting. Richard serves as an executive coach and consul…
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Using Behavioral Assessments to Hire Great Talent
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32:42Today we are looking at using behavioral assessments for more successful hiring outcomes. When evaluating candidates, hiring teams tend to focus on hard skills like computer proficiency or technical aptitudes, but even a highly qualified candidate can be wrong for a job if they lack the right soft skills such as emotional intelligence, collaboratio…
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There is a lot of talk about the changes that have taken place in the job market over the past few years, but how is that affecting the search for talent and what should a good recruiting process look like? We are looking at the current job market and the importance of having a strategic, repeatable, and scalable process to get the right talent in …
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We know there has been a shift in the world of work which means there also needs to be a shift in how leadership is responding and leading. Employees have shifted from wanting a boss to really wanting a coach, from focusing on their weaknesses to focusing on their strengths, from prioritizing the paycheck to prioritizing purpose. Join us as we disc…
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In this episode, we are talking about how to build a great company culture. You may have heard the saying "Culture is King." Having a great culture gives your company a solid foundation for success in all other areas. Today, HR Problem Solver's guest is Trey Thompson, President of Star Industries who has long valued maintaining a strong company cul…
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Talent management when done well leads to a high performing workforce by attracting, selecting, developing, promoting and retaining the right employees to lead your company to success. This processes continues throughout the employee life cycle. Get some great tips here on building your talent management strategy as we talk with Talent Management e…
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Have you been thinking you need to polish up your performance management process or maybe you need to implement one for the first time? Either way you are going to be equipped with great information and pointers on what it takes to have an effective performance managment process at your company as we talk with performance managment expert Kay Nadel…
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We are talking with employee engagement expert, Tom Horne today and taking an in depth look at all things employee engagement. What it is, what it is not, how to get it, how it changes, how to get a good read on it at your company and more. Today’s podcast guest is Tom Horne - An HR leader with People Element who is passionate about driving retenti…
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Today, we take an indepth look at Leadership Develepment and the importance of strong leaders building strong teams to carry your business forward. Good leadership makes a huge difference in the workplace as it improves morale, increase employee retention and employee engagement and raises productivity. Everyone can learn how to lead more effective…
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Strategic Planning - How it Benefits Your Business
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36:50Strategic Planning helps you look ahead and define where you want to be three to five years in the future and then you can understand the steps that you need to take today in order to achieve your goals. So many businesses and business owners operate day-to-day without thinking about what the future holds. Strategic planning is taking a step back f…
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Today we discuss the basics of compensation that every business owner needs to know. We are talking with David Garza, Sr. Principal at HR Catalyst on the key components to build a compensation strategy, why you need to make sure you are paying competitively against the external market, and finally how you integrate this into your overall HR strateg…
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Here we cover some of the basics of HR that can have a huge impact on the operation of your company and are many times overlooked when businesses are trying to keep up with the day to day business. You will get a better understanding of how to cover your HR basics and set your company up for success. Your HR Problem Solver host is Mark Mitford, a s…
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The Hidden Cost Of Small Business HR Mistakes
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1:01:36HR mistakes can cost small and middle market businesses both time and money. These unintentional missteps arise when small business owners and management teams unknowingly stray from HR best practices and processes. In this episode, we discuss ten oversights that are some of the most commonplace small business HR mistakes. Today's podcast guest is …
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All companies are experiencing compensation challenges as they struggle to retain talent in a jobseeker’s market. Get answers to many of the questions business leaders are struggling with going into next year’s salary planning cycle through this recording of our recent "Fix Your Compensation Challenges" webinar. For the video version of this webina…
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Having Grit - An Important Leadership Attribute
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8:30Some people naturally have grit and others have to develop it themselves, but everyone needs it! Grit is the ability to keep going when the going gets tough. The ability to suceed in the face of adversity. Grit is a recipe and foundation for success. Here we discuss a few tips on how you can add grit to your list of character attributes! Your HR Pr…
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Great Changes & Great Expectations in Today's Workforce
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9:51What is going on with all the hiring challeges in the current job market? Today, we discuss the growing divide in the workforce, knowledge workers wanting 100% remote work, more job openings than there are workers to fill them, how applicant tracking systems are making it hard to apply for certain jobs, the importance of a short hiring cycle and co…
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Specifics on How to Increase Employee Retention
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10:43Employee retention is something that is top of mind today. Everyone knows that spending a little time on employee retention can save the company alot of time in hiring and training new employees, but how exactly do you go about retaining your employees when so many seem to be seeking other opportunities? Here we discuss several simple and specific …
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We all know about the great resignation. What are the factors driving it and how are both employees and employers responding? Today we take a look at some of the many aspects of the resignation, what is happening in the labor market and how the war for talent is leading to changes in the workplace. Your HR Problem Solver host is Mark Mitford, a str…
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Today we are talking about developing resiliency versus putting your head in the sand. How do we problem solve and learn from our mistakes so that we don’t continue to use the same type of thinking that led us to the problem in the first place? We have to always keep growing and keep developing as we work to be better 6 months down the road or 3 ye…
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Where do you start when you are building Foundational HR Strategy for a new or growing organization? Today we dive into many areas to consider when building a strong HR strategy that will carry your business forward and allow it to compete in today's marketplace for hiring and retaining employees which ultimately leads to success and profitability.…
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The 7 C's strategy helps us simplify the process necessary to creating that team we all need to make our business successful. Here we look at the process as put forth in the book You win in the Locker Room First by Mike Smith former coach of the Atlanta Falcons. It's a great plan to build a winning team in business, sports and life . Your HR Proble…
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