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#35 - So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish: A Father’s Search for Meaning After Loss

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This week’s caller, a father who lost his son to suicide eighteen months ago, speaks with rare clarity about grief, meaning, and why skepticism doesn’t have to harden into despair. The premise is simple and brave: if consciousness is a function of the brain and ends when the brain stops, how do we live with love and purpose anyway?

We trace the moment death moved from abstract to intimate, and how that shift rewired his priorities. Together, we explore the boundaries between belief and evidence, the role of expertise in a world drowning in noise, and the difference between orthodoxy and honest inquiry. It’s a grounded look at life and death through the lens of neuroscience, traumatic brain injury, and the humility to say “I don’t know,” paired with the courage to keep asking.

Along the way, fear of mortality gives way to something sturdier: presence. Not as a slogan, but as a practice that slows time and fills ordinary moments with weight—coffee with a friend, fresh air on a hard day, a laugh that lightens the room. He describes a pilgrimage to wild places, carrying a small portion of his son’s ashes to mountains and lakes his son hoped to see. No grand promises—just a vow to live fully, love fiercely, and make meaning in the world we can still touch.

If you’re craving real talk about death, grief, science, and the fragile gift of being alive, press play. Then share this with someone you love, subscribe for more honest conversations, and leave a review to tell us what presence looks like in your life today.

Book Recommendation: The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams (Maybe the most emotional book recommendation we’ve had yet.)

If you’d like to watch this conversation instead of just listening, you can find the video version on YouTube.

Memorial Jewelry by Nia Emberly
Transform ashes into pendants and bracelets that carry love every day.
Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.
Support the show

Stay Connected
✨ WWDT+: Early Episode Access
🌐 Website: whenwedietalks.com
📸 Instagram: @whenwedietalks
▶️ YouTube: When We Die Talks
🎵 TikTok: @whenwedietalks
📰 Substack: When We Die Talks
📚
Anonymous Book Recommendations
✉️ Email: [email protected]

Want to share your thoughts?
We want to hear from you! Call our voicemail at 971-328-0864 and tell us what you believe happens when we die. Your message might be featured in a future episode and could help inspire someone else on their journey. Or, if you're interested in having a full conversation, you can apply to be an anonymous caller at whenwedietalks.com.

Have feedback about the show? Questions? Suggestions? Feel free to send a text or email—we’re always open to hearing what’s working and what’s not.

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Chapters

1. #35 - So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish: A Father’s Search for Meaning After Loss (00:00:00)

2. Sponsor: Nia Emberly (00:01:01)

3. Episode Intro (00:01:36)

4. The Call Begins (00:04:39)

5. Why Talk About Death At All (00:07:54)

6. Losing A Son To Suicide (00:09:19)

7. Hitchhiker’s Guide, Grief, And Tribute (00:13:11)

8. What Happens When We Die? (00:16:35)

9. Belief, Evidence, And Thresholds (00:21:51)

10. Are We Orthodox About Science (00:27:28)

11. Trust, Expertise, And Noise (00:31:47)

12. Miracles (00:35:25)

13. What's one experience? (00:45:22)

14. Voicemail (00:48:39)

44 episodes

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Content provided by Zach Ancell. All podcast content including episodes, graphics, and podcast descriptions are uploaded and provided directly by Zach Ancell or their podcast platform partner. If you believe someone is using your copyrighted work without your permission, you can follow the process outlined here https://podcastplayer.com/legal.

This week’s caller, a father who lost his son to suicide eighteen months ago, speaks with rare clarity about grief, meaning, and why skepticism doesn’t have to harden into despair. The premise is simple and brave: if consciousness is a function of the brain and ends when the brain stops, how do we live with love and purpose anyway?

We trace the moment death moved from abstract to intimate, and how that shift rewired his priorities. Together, we explore the boundaries between belief and evidence, the role of expertise in a world drowning in noise, and the difference between orthodoxy and honest inquiry. It’s a grounded look at life and death through the lens of neuroscience, traumatic brain injury, and the humility to say “I don’t know,” paired with the courage to keep asking.

Along the way, fear of mortality gives way to something sturdier: presence. Not as a slogan, but as a practice that slows time and fills ordinary moments with weight—coffee with a friend, fresh air on a hard day, a laugh that lightens the room. He describes a pilgrimage to wild places, carrying a small portion of his son’s ashes to mountains and lakes his son hoped to see. No grand promises—just a vow to live fully, love fiercely, and make meaning in the world we can still touch.

If you’re craving real talk about death, grief, science, and the fragile gift of being alive, press play. Then share this with someone you love, subscribe for more honest conversations, and leave a review to tell us what presence looks like in your life today.

Book Recommendation: The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams (Maybe the most emotional book recommendation we’ve had yet.)

If you’d like to watch this conversation instead of just listening, you can find the video version on YouTube.

Memorial Jewelry by Nia Emberly
Transform ashes into pendants and bracelets that carry love every day.
Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.
Support the show

Stay Connected
✨ WWDT+: Early Episode Access
🌐 Website: whenwedietalks.com
📸 Instagram: @whenwedietalks
▶️ YouTube: When We Die Talks
🎵 TikTok: @whenwedietalks
📰 Substack: When We Die Talks
📚
Anonymous Book Recommendations
✉️ Email: [email protected]

Want to share your thoughts?
We want to hear from you! Call our voicemail at 971-328-0864 and tell us what you believe happens when we die. Your message might be featured in a future episode and could help inspire someone else on their journey. Or, if you're interested in having a full conversation, you can apply to be an anonymous caller at whenwedietalks.com.

Have feedback about the show? Questions? Suggestions? Feel free to send a text or email—we’re always open to hearing what’s working and what’s not.

  continue reading

Chapters

1. #35 - So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish: A Father’s Search for Meaning After Loss (00:00:00)

2. Sponsor: Nia Emberly (00:01:01)

3. Episode Intro (00:01:36)

4. The Call Begins (00:04:39)

5. Why Talk About Death At All (00:07:54)

6. Losing A Son To Suicide (00:09:19)

7. Hitchhiker’s Guide, Grief, And Tribute (00:13:11)

8. What Happens When We Die? (00:16:35)

9. Belief, Evidence, And Thresholds (00:21:51)

10. Are We Orthodox About Science (00:27:28)

11. Trust, Expertise, And Noise (00:31:47)

12. Miracles (00:35:25)

13. What's one experience? (00:45:22)

14. Voicemail (00:48:39)

44 episodes

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