In the second episode of What's Up Wake, we sit down with the winners of the Wake Living Readers' Choice Award for Best Local Podcast - Joe Ovies and Joe Giglio from the Ovies and Giglio podcast. Join us as we delve into their journey from radio to podcasting, the intricacies of the media business, and their thoughts on NC State sports. Discover how they pivoted their careers, the importance of audience loyalty, and their future aspirations in the evolving world of sports media. Whether you're a sports fanatic or someone interested in the behind-the-scenes of podcasting, this episode has something for you. Plus, don't miss the 'Dumb It Down' segment, where complex sports terms are broken down into layman's terms.

00:00 Introduction to What's Up Wake

01:19 Meet the Podcasting Duo: Joe Ovies and Joe Gilgio

02:50 Navigating Career Changes: From Radio to Podcasting

04:24 Building a New Audience and Embracing Change

09:48 The Unique Sports Culture of North Carolina

12:12 Journey into Sports Media: Ovies and Giglio's Beginnings

19:29 Radio vs. Podcast: The Business Shift

20:58 Challenges of Radio Interviews

21:39 The Reset Debate

22:16 Active vs. Passive Listening

24:53 The NIL and Transfer Portal Explained

27:58 NC State's Hangover Year

32:09 OG Lightning Round