My guest on this episode is Aviva Rubin. Aviva is an author and essayist whose work has appeared in the New York Times, the Globe and Mail, Chatelaine, and Toronto Life, amongst other places. She is the author of the memoirs Tomorrow was Always Too Late For Me and Lost and Found in Lymphomaland. Her most recent book is the novel WHITE, published by re:books in 2024. Kirkus Reviews called it “a provocative exploration of the ties that bind and the mad hatred that kills.”

Aviva and I talk about the brief moment of internet notoriety she experienced after writing a New York Times column on parenting and casual nudity, about the shift from memoir to fiction with her last book, and about the odd sense of hesitation her novel was greeted with by media and by author festivals, at a moment when a novel about how someone becomes a white supremacist is the very definition of timely.

This podcast is produced and hosted by Nathan Whitlock, in partnership with The Walrus.

Music: "simple-hearted thing" by Alex Lukashevsky. Used with permission.

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