In the final part, the 4th of 4 episodes, Simon Stapleton chats with Perry Timms, Founder & Chief Energy Officer of PTHR about how Neurotech is enabling the measurement of impact to chart the changes being made in real terms.

"... to see all the ones and zeros we've got in our systems are actually making a real change, for real people, in business ..."

Perry Timms is a renowned blogger, author and TEDx speaker. He was named on the HR Most Influential Thinkers list 3 years running, and is a LinkedIn Learning Instructor. Perry's first book, Transformational HR, made Book Authority’s Top 100 Strategy books of all time. Perry's second book, The Energized Workplace, was released in August 2020 and has garnered critical acclaim.

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