"... to see all the ones and zeros we've got in our systems are actually making a real change, for real people, in business ..."

In the final part of this four episode series, featuring our partner, PTHR, Simon Stapleton chats with Perry Timms, Founder & Chief Energy Officer, PTHR about how the partnership between Truthsayers and PTHR is enabling both companies to be able to measure the impact and see the change that they make, in real terms.

Perry Timms is a renowned blogger, author and TEDx speaker. He was named on the HR Most Influential Thinkers list 3 years running, and is a LinkedIn Learning Instructor. Perry's first book, Transformational HR, made Book Authority’s Top 100 Strategy books of all time. Perry's second book, The Energized Workplace, was released in August 2020 and has garnered critical acclaim.
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