In this episode of Tim Talks: ABA Therapy, host Timothy Zercher sits down with Dr. Summer Gainey, BCBA-D, to explore what it really means to lead outcomes-driven care without losing sight of personalization. Summer shares how her team balances data with human connection, why meaningful goals don’t always fit neatly into a report, and how her policy work in Texas shapes her approach to clinical leadership. From growing in competitive markets to preparing for the future of AI regulation - this conversation is a must for any ABA leader thinking beyond the clinic walls.