What does it take to build one of the fastest-growing database ORMs from scratch? In this episode, we sit down with Andrii Sherman, co-founder of Drizzle, to unpack their philosophy: "If you know SQL, you know Drizzle."
Andrii breaks down why their "headless ORM" approach is winning over developers frustrated with traditional ORMs. We dive deep into Drizzle's smart migration system, the growing ecosystem (DrizzleKit, DrizzleStudio), and how they've built a sustainable business model around open source with a 15-person team—all while working from Ukraine.
From SQL template tags to building developer tools that don't get in your way, Andrii reveals the engineering decisions behind Drizzle's rapid adoption. We explore their unique approach to database migrations, why they're still not v1.0, and how they've created an entire ecosystem of tools that just work.
Whether you're curious about modern database tooling, open source sustainability, or building developer-first products, this conversation offers rare insights into creating technology that developers actually love using.
Our Fantastic Guest
Andrii Sherman
Drizzle Team co-founder
X (formerly twitter)
Links and Resources
Drizzle Team
Drizzle ORM Documentation
Drizzle ORM v1 Roadmap
Deep State Project
Sponsor Drizzle
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