This is not your typical polished podcast episode. Back in November, Chad Sonkin and I hit record while both of us were in the thick of navigating the shutdown of our Edge Theory Labs as we lost both of our jobs and were forced to deal with real life consequences. What unfolds is a raw, unfiltered conversation about facing uncertainty, managing emotions, and finding resilience in real time. We dive into the tough lessons, the unexpected moments of grace, and the tools we leaned on to keep moving forward. If you’ve ever wondered what it’s like to be in the trenches of a major life pivot, this episode offers an honest glimpse into the process—messy, challenging, and ultimately transformative—and may offer some insight as you navigate life’s inevitable transitions.

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