This is The Way You Lead — the show for a new era of leaders who are ready to rise. Hosted by Forbes 30 Under 30 Entrepreneur Joshua Church, each episode unpacks what it means to lead from the inside out with faith, heart, integrity, strength, and authenticity. Through stories, strategies, and conversations with embodied leaders, you’ll gain what you need to help you lead yourself and others in today’s changing world. Because the way you lead matters—and now is the time to step up.
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Welcome to the Heart Centered Man Podcast A show that inspires heart centered men to purse the relationships, health and self expression they truly want in life each episode, I invite a self confident man to share their personal accounts of heart centered manhood and overcoming self doubt. I am your heart centered host, Benjahmin Koenigsberg, and am grateful for your listenership
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#219: Mark Rampolla, Founder of ZICO, shares an Entrepreneur’s Guide to Freedom
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48:19This special live episode was recorded at the launch event for An Entrepreneur’s Guide to Freedom, the new book from ZICO Coconut Water founder and GroundForce Capital co-founder Mark Rampolla. In this conversation, Mark shares what real freedom looks like for entrepreneurs and leaders—the kind that comes not from success or status, but from awaren…
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#217: Why Realness is the Most Radical Leadership Practice
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14:31Real leadership starts when we take off the mask.In this solo episode, Joshua dives into the power of authenticity and why our natural state—raw, imperfect, real—is exactly what the world needs more of. Drawing wisdom from nature, ancient wiring, and lived experience, he explores the fears that keep us from showing up as our true selves and the lib…
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#216: The Masculine Void & The Feminine Response with Christina Rice
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1:22:50Tune in for a powerful conversation exploring the dynamic between masculine and feminine energy in today's world. In this live podcast recording, Christina and Joshua took a deep dive into the modern polarity conversation -- what it means for men to step up, the sacred role of the feminine, and how this energy dance is playing out in dating, relati…
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#215: Protecting your peace in a world that profits from your chaos
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16:29Is this really worth losing your peace over? That’s the question Joshua Church invites us to live by in this powerful solo episode of The Way You Lead. In a world constantly pulling at our attention—and our nervous systems—Joshua explores the daily practice of protecting your peace. Drawing inspiration from Michael Singer and the simple yet profoun…
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#214: From Disconnection to Integration: How to Lead, Heal, and Thrive with Scott Olsen
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1:26:30Disconnection may be one of the biggest health issues we face today—and most people don’t even realize they’re living in it. In this rich and revealing conversation, Joshua sits down with healer, martial artist, and fascia expert Scott Olsen to explore what it truly means to live and lead in an integrated way. From working with world-class athletes…
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#213: From Isolation to Impact: How June An Creates Heart-Centered Spaces
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53:29In this honest and heart-opening conversation, Joshua sits down with June An—serial entrepreneur, community builder, and founder of the group, a San Diego-based gathering redefining what connection in business can look like. What started as June’s personal challenge to have coffee with one new person every day has grown into a thriving in-person co…
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#212: From Friendship to Foundership: Leading Without Losing the Relationship
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25:45Working with the people you love doesn’t have to end in a blow-up—or burnout. In this solo episode, Joshua shares a candid and hard-earned perspective on one of the most loaded leadership dynamics: working with friends and family. Drawing from his experience building a multimillion-dollar company with his cousin and hiring close friends into key le…
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#211: Becoming Sunshine: Leading Through Rhythm, Nature, and Truth with Jenna-Leigh Hoffmann
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51:45What if the sun held the key to coming home to yourself? In this rich and heart-centered conversation, Jenna Leigh—author, athlete, and integrative health coach—shares her journey from burnout in corporate tech to reclaiming her vitality through nature, rhythm, and truth.We explore the science and spirituality behind sunlight, circadian rhythms, an…
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#210: 3 shifts you MUST make to go from Founder to CEO of your biz
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21:33Having the vision isn’t what makes you a great leader—translating it is. This is a solo episode with Joshua Church, diving into the leadership shifts required to go from scrappy founder to intentional CEO. Joshua shares the three most critical transitions every founder must make if they want to build something that lasts: Moving from operator to ar…
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#209: Choosing the Harder Path: Resilience, Intuition, and Everest Lessons with Nikita Colomatin
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1:00:13What does it mean to choose the harder path—and why does it matter Recorded over tea at 14,000 feet on the trail to Everest Base Camp, this conversation with Nikita Colomatin cuts through the noise. Entrepreneur, endurance athlete, and co-founder of Endure, Nikita brings a lived perspective on growth, grit, and what it takes to lead yourself when n…
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#208: The Power of Saying Anything: How Small Talk Sparks Big Growth.
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8:58In this short and spontaneous solo episode, Joshua shares a surprising moment of connection from a sauna in San Francisco—and the deeper lesson it sparked around leadership, growth, and human connection. What began as casual small talk with strangers turned into real conversation, loose ties, and meaningful new relationships. Through the lens of pr…
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#207: From Fear to Fatherhood – Love, Leadership, and Polarity with Joren de Bruin
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54:23What if the very thing you fear most is the key to your growth? In this raw and heart-centered episode, Joshua shares a hot tub conversation in Iceland with Joren de Bruin—facilitator, father, and truth seeker. Together, they unpack the journey of embracing commitment, fatherhood, and the responsibility that comes with leading from presence. Joren …
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#206: Nice Guys Finish Last: 5 Practices Every Man Needs to Reclaim His Strength
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31:42It’s not enough to be nice. We need men who lead with strength, integrity, and conviction. In this solo episode, Joshua Church speaks directly to men—and to the women who love and support them—about what’s been lost and what must be reclaimed. This is a call to return to embodied masculinity, not as dominance or toxicity, but as grounded leadership…
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#205: "Resonance" and Emotional Tools for Modern Leaders with Chris Barber
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1:23:40What if success wasn’t about focus, but freedom to explore? In this episode, Joshua sits down with Chris Barber—entrepreneur, father, and systems thinker—for a grounded conversation on what it really takes to lead yourself in today’s world. From navigating ADHD to challenging traditional education and startup dogma, Chris shares how embracing exper…
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#204: 6 Takeaways from a Meditation Retreat on Mt. Shasta
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17:04In this solo episode, Joshua shares the fresh, heart-full reflections from four days unplugged on Mount Shasta. What unfolded was part meditation retreat, part spiritual tune-up, and a full immersion into presence, laughter, stillness, and divine reminder. Through the lens of nature, mentorship, and ceremony, Joshua unpacks 10 key takeaways from th…
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#203: Erotic Intelligence and the Divine Path with Jessica Bird
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1:22:36What if your deepest truth lived in the places you’ve been taught to avoid? In this expansive conversation, Jessica Bird—intuitive channel, speaker, and guide—shares her path of reclaiming spiritual and sexual sovereignty. From shutting down her psychic gifts as a child to awakening them through a dark night of the soul, Jessica opens up about brid…
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#202: The Art of Holding Space: Why Emotional Presence Is Your Most Underrated Leadership Tool and How To Do It.
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21:56What if your greatest impact as a leader isn’t what you say—but how you listen? In this solo episode, Joshua unpacks the often-misunderstood concept of holding space and brings it down to earth with real, practical insights. He explores why emotional presence is essential to modern leadership, how your ability to hold space for others starts with h…
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#201: Grief, Growth, and the Call of the Wild with Jamey Lee
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1:17:37What if your hardest moment held the key to your greatest purpose?In this episode, Joshua sits down with Jamey Lee—storyteller, creative strategist, and Chief Creative Officer of Deep Social—for a heartfelt conversation on loss, spirituality, and the power of emotional storytelling. Jamey shares how the death of his best friend became a turning poi…
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#200: A Special Live Panel Discussion + Celebration ft. Christina Rice, Frank Roby, Nina Barber & Chad Sonkin
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1:30:01To celebrate the 200th episode, Joshua hosts a special live panel with guests Christina Rice, Frank Roby, Nina Barber, and Chad Sonkin. This discussion centers on navigating challenging seasons and the leadership qualities that inspire resilience. The panel shares how to lead with faith, heart, integrity, strength, and authenticity. Learn how to zo…
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#199: The Power of Pivoting and Inner Leadership with Jon Miksis
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1:04:20What happens when your business gets wiped out overnight—and you decide to grow from it? In this episode, Joshua sits down with Jon Miksis, founder of Global Viewpoint and a longtime travel creator, for a real and revealing conversation on resilience, reinvention, and inner leadership. Jon shares his journey from corporate burnout to building a 7-f…
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#198: How I Pulled Myself Out of "The Spiral"
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15:57What do you do when the spiral hits—when fear, doubt, and disconnection creep in? In this solo episode, Joshua shares a raw moment of his own recent spiral and how he found his way back through it—not by thinking his way out, but by feeling his way through. From post-travel burnout and scarcity fears to loneliness and self-doubt, he unpacks the emo…
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#197: From Passion to Pivot: Building Sustainable Impact with Samantha Pantazopoulos
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1:00:41What happens when your passion project outgrows its original form? In this episode, Samantha Pantazopoulos—entrepreneur, storyteller, and co-founder of Vizer—opens up about the raw and revealing journey of evolving a purpose-driven company. From launching a workout-for-impact platform in college to navigating the emotional weight of a strategic piv…
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#196: How to Set the Tone Before the Day Does
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22:09Great leaders don’t react to the world—they lead from within. In this solo episode, Joshua breaks down 5 powerful ways to start your day like a thermostat, not a thermometer. Whether it’s a crisis at work or just the noise of daily life, your response begins before the moment even arrives. From deep journaling and embodiment to intentional resets a…
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#195: Leading with Play, Presence, and Spiritual Practice with John Quirk
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1:05:01What if presence, play, and trust were the real tools for transformation? In this episode, Joshua is joined by John Quirk—yoga teacher, retreat leader, and heart-led entrepreneur—for a conversation that blends depth, humor, and grounded insight. John shares his journey from corporate burnout to building a life centered on embodiment, community, and…
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#194: 6 Leadership Lessons from Netflix’s Thunderbirds
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21:27What can six fighter jets flying 18 inches apart teach us about leadership? A lot. In this solo episode, Joshua breaks down six powerful leadership lessons from Netflix’s Thunderbirds documentary. From building trust through precision to creating systems that outlast any one person, the Thunderbirds model what it means to lead with discipline, pres…
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#193: The Inner Game of Leadership and Performance with Mike Mabry
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1:08:01Can you pursue greatness without losing yourself along the way? In this episode, Joshua sits down with Mike Mabry, mental performance coach and founder of One Play Development, for a grounded conversation on the mindset behind real leadership. Mike shares how personal adversity shaped his path and how he now supports student-athletes in building co…
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#192: Lead Like You Mean It: 5 Principles for Living in Integrity
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13:55Are your words truly aligned with your actions—or are you sending mixed signals? In this solo episode, Joshua explores the deeper meaning of integrity and why it’s about alignment, not perfection. He shares five core principles for living what you speak: the importance of self-awareness, the weight of giving your word, and the power of daily follow…
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#191: Holding the Vision and Faith: Barbershop Wisdom with Frank Roby
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2:02:49What happens when a barbershop becomes a space for healing and transformation? In this episode, Joshua sits down with Frank Roby, founder of Mr. Roby’s Barbershop and a steady force in the San Diego community. Frank shares his path from cutting hair at age 8 to creating a space built on trust, purpose, and faith. Through honest stories of struggle …
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#190: The Inner Work of Heart-Led Millionaires: My Top 6 Takeaways from a Week in Sedona
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23:49What do seven-figure, heart-led leaders really have in common? After a week in Sedona surrounded by high-level entrepreneurs, Joshua returns with six core takeaways that reshaped his view of leadership, success, and inner alignment. This isn’t a list of strategies—it’s a reflection on identity, faith, and the internal shifts required to hold more p…
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#189: Mental Toughness, Self-Leadership, and the Long Game with Chad Sonkin
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1:31:02What does it really take to lead yourself—day in and day out? In this episode, Joshua sits down with Chad Sonkin for a raw, energizing conversation on mental toughness, ownership, and the inner game of leadership. From navigating entrepreneurial uncertainty to lighting people up in everyday moments, Chad shares how he stays grounded through discipl…
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#188: The Way You Lead – A New Chapter Begins
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28:40After nearly 200 episodes, it’s time for a new chapter. This episode marks a powerful evolution—from Find The Others to The Way You Lead. More than a new name, this shift reflects a deeper calling: to serve the leaders of this next era. The ones who are ready to lead with clarity, courage, heart, and truth. In this episode, I share the behind-the-s…
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#187: Kayla Harrison on Olympic Judo Gold, Surviving Childhood Trauma & Healing Through Motherhood
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48:19Kayla Harrison is a fearless mother of 2 who embodies strength, perseverance and resilience. Her journey is a testament to the power of determination and hard work. From the mat to motherhood, Kayla’s story is one of breaking barriers and pushing boundaries. Get ready to be motivated by her remarkable journey as we dive into the incredible story of…
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#186: Austin Griffin on Digital Distractions, Soul’s Calling and Living Beyond External Noise
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1:02:10Austin Griffin is an entrepreneur, visionary, and seeker who has been creating his own path since the age of 15. With a history of building several successful businesses, Austin’s journey is one of constant evolution—driven by a deep commitment to understanding himself and the world around him. In recent years, Austin has taken a step back from the…
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#185: Rewriting Your Story: The Power of Framing Your Narrative
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8:30You are the author of your own story—so how are you telling it? In this solo episode, I dive into the power of reframing our experiences, shifting from a victim mindset to one of empowerment. I share personal insights, including my journey after Edge Theory Lab shut down, and how changing the way I framed my story transformed my perspective. Drawin…
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#184: The Power of Acupuncture and Chinese Medicine with Dr. Sydney Herbst
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1:10:16Dr. Sydney Herbst is the owner of Herbs to Acupuncture, an integrative wellness practice based in La Jolla, California, where she also serves as a Doctor of Acupuncture and Chinese Medicine. With a deep commitment to healing from the inside out, Dr. Sydney specializes in treating women’s health issues, autoimmune disorders, and other chronic condit…
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#183: Blurring the Lines: When Work and Play Become One
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13:46What if your work and play weren’t separate, but part of the same seamless flow? In this solo episode, I reflect on my recent trip to Colombia and the powerful insights it sparked about creating a life you don’t need to escape from. I share how an intentional "build week"—working on energizing projects in an inspiring environment—left me feeling mo…
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#182: Harnessing Fear, Embracing Suffering, and Finding Strength with Akshay Nanavati
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54:22Akshay Nanavati has overcome drug addiction, PTSD from fighting in Iraq with the Marines (where one of his jobs was to walk in front of vehicles to find bombs), depression and alcoholism that pushed him to the brink of suicide. Since then, by embracing his demons, he has built a global business, run multiple ultramarathons, climbed mountains in the…
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#181: Transforming Grief into Strength and Purpose with Daniel Greenfield
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1:02:00In this inspiring episode, Daniel Greenfield—personal trainer and Wim Hof Method instructor—shares his transformative journey through grief, identity, and healing. After the loss of his father, Daniel turned to breathwork to rewrite his narrative, discovering how to transform a "hole in his heart" into a "home in his heart." From overcoming a major…
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#180: Start Small, Dream Big: How to Kickstart Your Passion Project or Business in 2025
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13:33Ready to turn your passion project into something big? In this episode, I share 3 proven tips and frameworks to set yourself up for success, drawing from my journey of building Edge Theory Labs from a side hustle into a $20M business—and nearly 200 podcast episodes worth of insights. Whether you’re just starting or ready to level up, this episode i…
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#179: Developing Grit and Grace Through Challenges ft. Chad Sonkin
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1:53:11This is not your typical polished podcast episode. Back in November, Chad Sonkin and I hit record while both of us were in the thick of navigating the shutdown of our Edge Theory Labs as we lost both of our jobs and were forced to deal with real life consequences. What unfolds is a raw, unfiltered conversation about facing uncertainty, managing emo…
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#178: The End of Edge: Lessons From Shutting Down My Business
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1:09:23In this deeply personal episode, I share the full story behind the decision to shut down Edge Theory Labs and the journey through one of the most challenging periods of my life. Along the way, I reveal the six key principles and practices that have guided me through this season of transition, growth, and self-discovery. Whether you're navigating yo…
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#177: Change your life in 8 weeks with Training Camp
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9:48Join me as I share a tool that I have used countless times to change my life in just 8 weeks. Welcome to Training Camp.
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#176: Abigael Elizabeth on making music, creating art, and spirituality
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1:08:51Abigael Elizabeth is a dear friend and very talented singer/songwriter. She also makes pottery and has recently focused on doubling down her pursuit of music. This was a very unique and fun conversation as we not only dove into her origin story and the moment when she decided to pursue music more fully – but she also played us songs throughout the …
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#175: Brian Cunningham, Former Commander of SEAL team ONE, on leadership, elite mindset, and artificial intelligence
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1:12:29Brian’s career, both in the military and as a civilian, reflects a legacy of strategic leadership and a commitment to innovation. As a 25+ year Navy SEAL and senior Special Operations Officer, Brian led hundreds of critical operations, organizations from 7 to 12,000 people, and US strategies across challenging environments, demonstrating unparallel…
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#174: Chad Sonkin on faith, energy, and responding to adversity
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1:20:22Chad Sonkin joins Joshua back on the podcast for a conversation around faith, mindset, health, and responding to adversity.
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#173: Monday Motivation with Chad Sonkin: Get Muddy!
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16:32Joshua and Chad discuss the importance of rolling up your sleeves and 'Getting Muddy'
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On today’s episode, join Joshua as he shares his story of a practice that helped him land his dream job – an embodiment walk – and how you can add it to your arsenal of tools right away.
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#171: Sam Fried on fighting Hamas in the Gaza War and Peace Advocacy
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1:08:49Sam Fried is 26, from New York, works in finance at an international bank, and served in the Israeli Defense Forces as a paratrooper from 2020-2022. After the October 7th terrorist attacks in Israel, Sam knew he had to take action to protect Jews and eradicate the inhumanity that Hamas brought to the world. Sam is a First-Sergeant Paratrooper reser…
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#170: What’s your favorite flavor of shit sandwich?
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9:15Join Joshua as he explores the concept of a ‘shit sandwich’ from Liz Gilbert and Mark Manson, and how you can reframe a question about purpose and passion to lead you to maximum alignment.
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#169: Monday Motivation with Chad Sonkin: Slow is smooth, smooth is fast.
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16:21Join Joshua and Chad as they talk about stillness and why it's key to more efficiency. They discuss how taking a slow, deliberate approach can lead to greater results in the long run.
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