What if your tools worked like your best teammate?

In this episode, Vivun CEO Matt Darrow talks with Vivun’s Lead AI Product Designer, Stephany Cardet, about what goes into designing AI Sales Assistants that don’t just follow your lead—they help you stay ahead.

Stephany shares how Vivun’s tool Ava takes the guesswork out of the process—anticipating next steps, simplifying complex tasks, and making collaboration natural.

Learn how smarter design can help you do your best work, every time.

In this episode, you’ll learn:

1. From Buttons to Brilliance: How design is shifting from rigid SaaS interfaces to agentic AI, where conversational design empowers users.
2. Trusting the Unknown: The human barriers to AI adoption—and how proactive, personalized agents like Ava build trust and reduce ambiguity.
3. More Than a Shell: Why AI agents don’t need traditional UIs and how Ava’s intelligence adapts to your unique style, even knowing what she doesn’t know.

Things to listen for:
(00:00) What agentic AI is and how it’s reshaping work
(00:15) Meet Stephany Cardet
(00:32) Why human-centered design is key to better sales tools
(01:02) How thoughtful design makes tools feel intuitive
(04:00) The shift from rigid interfaces to dynamic, conversational tools
(06:30) How proactive tools simplify workflows and save time
(09:10) Building trust with tools that explain their actions
(12:00) Smarter tools that eliminate silos and foster teamwork
(15:30) What makes AI feel like a trusted teammate