AI is everywhere but how are we actually relating to it?

In this soul-stirring conversation, Matt and Joy explore what’s really behind our collective obsession (and sometimes fear) of AI. Is it a threat, a tool… or something far more reflective?

From Joy’s experience with tarot card addiction to Matt’s childhood bond with his teddy bear Simon (and a surprisingly spiritual encounter with Paula Abdul), this conversation dives deep into the emotional, energetic, and spiritual patterns shaping our interaction with technology.

This isn’t a conversation about technology. It’s about you and the deeper invitations that AI brings to the surface.

You’ll hear:

✨ Why trying to “get the most” from AI might be hurting you

✨ The one word we should eliminate to escape ego traps

✨ How the “drama triangle” (bully, victim, rescuer) is playing out in the AI conversation

✨ What to do when AI becomes your mirror… or your master

✨ How to move from using to relating with technology, with others, and within yourself

Whether you’re curious, cautious, or already down the rabbit hole, this episode brings heart, humor, and a whole new lens to the conversation.

Because how we do one thing… is how we do everything.

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