In this episode of Signals Podcast, host Laura Glaab sits down with Dr. Mallory Dwinal Palisch, president, craft at Western Governors University to dive deep into the complex, and often overlooked challenges at the intersection of education and the workforce. Dr. Palisch breaks down how Craft is tackling the "boring" but critical problem of connecting K-12 schools, higher education, and employers through streamlined data and reporting systems, unlocking new opportunities for learners and institutions alike.

Together, Laura and Dr. Palisch explore why so many talented individuals, whether high school interns, paraprofessionals, or recent college graduates, struggle to get credit for their real-world experience, and what systemic changes are needed to build stronger career pathways. From stories of rural education and the nursing shortage to the need for apprenticeships across all careers, not just trades, this conversation brings powerful personal anecdotes and data-driven insights.

Whether you’re an educator, policymaker, or just passionate about the future of learning and work, this episode will leave you thinking differently about how we develop and recognize talent. Stick around for rapid-fire questions, practical advice, and a fresh perspective on the skills and mindsets we need for a more connected, equitable future.

Key Moments

03:45 Upskilling Inefficiency and Workforce Challenges

11:14 Paid Trials for All Careers

18:09 Integrated Pathways for Teacher Development

24:24 Streamlined Medical Education Debate

30:24 "Rethinking Education for Frontline Roles"

35:03 Career Path Flexibility and Progression

40:21 Balancing Growth with Genuine Innovation

43:24 Education's Debt and Duty Crisis

45:49 Solving Problems with Personal Legacy

Why You’ll Love This Episode:
If you care about upskilling, workforce pipelines, or just building smarter career pathways, definitely give this episode a listen. The road to educational equity and workforce readiness may be messy, but as Dr. Dwinal Palisch shows, the right kinds of infrastructure can make all the difference.

Connect with Dr. Mallory Dwinal Palisch
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mallory-dwinal-palisch/
Website: https://www.wgu.edu/

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