Welcome to The Signals, the podcast exploring the future of online learning. Each episode we talk with leaders reshaping higher ed, from digital transformation to credentialing and student success.
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Making History Accessible: Josh Burnett on Affordable Online Degrees for K12 Educators
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31:55In today’s episode, host Kelsey Peterson sits down with Josh Burnett to explore the creation, growth, and impact of a unique master’s program for K-12 educators in American history. Josh shares the story of how his team partnered with Gettysburg College to develop an accessible, flexible, and affordable online graduate program designed especially f…
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Fostering Access, Value, and Purpose in Higher Education with Dr. Angie Paccione
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41:59In this episode of Signals, Laura Glaab sits down with Dr. Angie Paccione, Executive Director of the Colorado Department of Higher Education, for a conversation about leadership, opportunity, and the evolving value of higher education. From her groundbreaking path as the first African American woman to receive a full-ride basketball scholarship at …
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Penn Foster’s Playbook for the Next Education Revolution
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46:52In this episode of Signals, Laura Glaab sits down with Andrew Shean, Chief Learning Officer at Penn Foster University, for a candid conversation about the state—and future—of online learning. With over 300,000 students enrolled across high school, college, and career programs, Penn Foster is quietly shaping a radically affordable, career-aligned al…
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The End of Barriers in College: A New Approach from Montclair State
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42:58In this episode of The Signals, host Laura Glaab sits down with Dr. Marc Austin, Vice Provost and Managing Director of Montclair State University’s ambitious new initiative—Montclair Unbound. Together, they unpack what it really means to “remove barriers” in higher education, from rethinking how we deliver online learning to closing capability gaps…
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Personalizing College: Anzar Khaliq Explains San Francisco Bay University’s Bold New Approach
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47:35In this episode of The Signals, host Laura Glaab sits down with Anzar Khaliq, Chief Learning Officer at San Francisco Bay University, to explore a bold and necessary question: What if we rebuilt higher education from the ground up? Anzar shares how SFBU is doing just that—challenging every norm, from the credit hour to the concept of the traditiona…
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Flexible, Free, and Job-Ready: The Calbright College Experiment
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38:56In this episode of The Signals Podcast, host Laura Glaab sits down with Dr. Shannon McCarty, Vice Provost of Learning and Instruction at Calbright College—California’s groundbreaking online community college designed exclusively for adult learners. Shannon shares how Calbright is rewriting the playbook for higher education through competency-based,…
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Connecting K12, Higher Ed, and Workforce for Real Change in Craft Education
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49:29In this episode of Signals Podcast, host Laura Glaab sits down with Dr. Mallory Dwinal Palisch, president, craft at Western Governors University to dive deep into the complex, and often overlooked challenges at the intersection of education and the workforce. Dr. Palisch breaks down how Craft is tackling the "boring" but critical problem of connect…
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Skills Over Schools? Tom Vander Ark on the Future of Credentials
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50:00In this episode of The Signals Podcast, host Laura Glabb sits down with Tom Vander Ark, CEO of Getting Smart and former executive director of education at the Gates Foundation to explore the evolving world of credentialing, personalized learning, and the next generation of education. From his early advocacy for digital badges and learning records t…
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