TPToA Podcast 416 – K-Pop Demon Hunters

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K-Pop Demon Hunters

K-Pop Demon Hunters sounds like a joke title, but this action packed adventure/romance/musical/ martial arts action film… is really something different! The surprise animated hit of the year which has been not only smashing streaming video records (thats Netflix for ya), but also demolishing the music charts (Golden hitting no. 1 on Spotify!) is something nobody saw coming, but now that it’s here we may never be the same! Its a heady mix of Korean mythology, flying swords-person action, heartbreaking romance, radical self acceptance and all with a K-Pop soundtrack that lets be clear… absolutely slaps.

We have a special guest for this show, with our beloved Ardella (Bec) chiming in to profess her undying love of this unexpected gem! Dion may have his demonic grump on, but Jill and Quinny both are singing from the hymn-book of hon-moon creation.

Synopsis

K-Pop Demon Hunters” tells the story of a K-pop girl group, Huntrix, who are also demon hunters, tasked with protecting the world from demons and their king, Gwi-Ma. They use their music to maintain a magical barrier called the Honmoon and work towards strengthening it into the Golden Honmoon, which would permanently banish demons. Their mission is complicated when a rival demon boy band, the Saja Boys, emerges, stealing their fans and weakening the Honmoon.

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Dion

Ohh hello and welcome to the periodic Table of awesome. Well, we’re getting on to this Tuesday night, going down the good old road of something Netflix. Are you related? Hello. Yes.

Quinny

Hello, we’re going down. And we’re going down, down, down.

Speaker 3

I know.

Quinny

What, John, why aren’t?

Dion

You singing. I don’t understand the concept. What the **** is happening? This is not a regular. Hi. My name is Dion. I’m joined tonight by Queenie and I’m joined by Jill. And I’m joined by Beck. Pop. Hello, pop. It’s been a while. Thanks for joining us. This one.

Quinny

Hey, welcome back.

Dion

Because yeah, for your viewing pleasure, you’re helping us talk about K pop.

Ardella

I am. I am this cultural phenomenon has been on repeat in my household for the last month, so I’m thrilled to talk about it.

Speaker

Hi.

Jill

Oh.

Dion

Oh.

Ardella

On the Internet.

Dion

A month.

Quinny

Yeah, yeah.

Ardella

OK, we are late to this party.

Dion

I am but I I’m 100% late to this party only because. Yeah, sorry.

Quinny

All right.

Dion

Good to you.

Quinny

No, no, no. I like I said, I actually talked about it. I don’t know the weekend it came out or the like. I watched it because I had nothing else on. I was sitting on the couch and I was like, that looks entertaining. I’ll just put that on in the background. And was then kind of like this is ******* cool. And then when in the next episode, I’m like Jill, Jill, Jill, you gotta you gotta check it out. You gotta check it. And she’s like.

Jill

Like, leave me alone. Otherwise I won’t watch.

Speaker 4

Yeah, yeah. And then the.

Quinny

It was like Jill, Jill, Penny, Penny, Penny, Penny, Penny, and she’s like, leave me alone.

Jill

Next, let’s do yeah. Sorry, it’s it’s the Aries. You can’t tell me what to do.

Quinny

Yeah, the license.

Ardella

Can I just say though, despite being one of the longest bloody trailers in the world, I. I’m so impressed by how little it manages to give away, and I wonder if we can manage to give away a similar level of not spoilers.

Jill

Yeah.

Quinny

Yeah, we can. We can. I mean we can. We also do a. Spoilery bit after we’ve done the thing, but.

Ardella

I remember how this works.

Quinny

OK, OK.

Ardella

I also remember that we often suck it, not giving too many spoilers in the free spoiler bit.

Quinny

This is a good point. Well made.

Jill

OK, we’re going to be as vague as.

Quinny

Possible. Yeah. So how did your come to it? Did you just find it on Netflix? Did did somebody recommend?

Jill

It to you. I know. Yeah. Somebody annoyed. Me to watch it, yeah.

Dion

No, Quinn. He made me watch it.

Ardella

Yes. Yeah. Did he tape your eyelids open and struck you to the chair? Yeah.

Dion

Yeah, it’s 100% Clockwork Orange, me. For this but but I’ve got this.

Speaker 1

Yep.

Quinny

And I’m not sad. I’m not. I’m not. Embarrassed about that?

Dion

I’ve got this weird. Sort of tick now that I have to keep kind of doing this and I feel like I need to do choreographed dances every now and again. So I don’t know what’s happening. I don’t know anything about.

Jill

Can teach you.

Quinny

See, I don’t think we were fully aware that Beck was as into this as not as until like you you posted a video to us. You’re like look at.

Dion

Excellent.

Speaker 4

This did you dance?

Dion

Like ohh OK, you know, we’re gonna talk about stuff that, like quite blatantly. I have absolutely no ******* idea what’s going on.

Jill

I mean.

Dion

We might as well open the floor up to people who do know what the **** is.

Ardella

Going on, but have you watched it dear?

Dion

Yes, I watched it from the start to the last song.

Ardella

Great. How? How the **** do you still? Have no idea what is going on then.

Dion

Have you seen the film?

Ardella

It’s a very cromulent storyline.

Speaker 2

No wonder.

Dion

Here’s what’s going on. They’re just doing things on screen and singing songs and going. This is good. Yeah. And you’re watching it.

Jill

Yeah, pop music is a part of Concepto dialog. OK, yeah.

Dion

Sure.

Ardella

Dion should never go and see a.

Jill

Thank you.

Speaker 13

Musical is what?

Ardella

We’re hearing this is an even musical.

Quinny

No, no.

Speaker 13

Devil story.

Dion

No, this isn’t far off though.

Speaker 13

Season.

Dion

This is it. Musical level storytelling and I watched it. And I’m not saying like things are bad or weird or out of my comfort zone. It’s just it’s not really for me.

Speaker 3

Dion

And that’s OK, you know.

Ardella

You’re allowed to be wrong.

Jill

He often is.

Quinny

Also I I will point out that that Dean had had a very, very long bad day by the time that this came onto his screen and I kind of get the feeling that it was like.

Speaker 4

Oh.

Quinny

Is that a reasonably accurate description deal?

Dion

Look, you know I’m not. I’m able to separate church and state here. I can understand the value of something even though my personal opinions may have coloured it slightly. That being said, I still don’t really know what’s going on in Capot demon.

Jill

Would you? Would you like this is not.

Speaker 4

Let’s let’s have us.

Dion

I mean, sure, if you think I’ve got it, I wonder if I’ve got any music somewhere. Hang on a second.

Quinny

Yeah. Yeah. OK. K pop. Hang on. What voice am I doing?

Speaker 13

Nothing, right?

Quinny

Well, that’s it. Somebody else better do.

Dion

Ohh no.

Quinny

OK, K pop demon hunters tells the story of A K pop girl group called Hunt Tricks, who are also demon hunters tasked with protecting the world from demons from for their king Guimar. They use their music to maintain a magical barrier called the honeymoon, and work towards strengthening. Hit into the golden Hon moon. Which would permanently vanish.

Ardella

Day and age of Tik toking. And if you’re my age, Instagram, reeling a week after it’s appeared on TikTok. We’ve basically have a a huge collection of people who’ve basically seen half the movie through real. Or tick tocks and then go. OK, I may as well go and watch this movie now. So I think that a lot of people have had that experience when Quinny mentioned it. I then was like, let’s watch the trailer for this and was on board after watching the trailer and.

Speaker 1

Mm-hmm.

Ardella

My partner and I sat down and. Watched it over Friday night. We were amazed by the number of layers that this movie has that you do not get from the trailer, and I was on board just with what that surface level stuff was already.

Quinny

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that was the thing that surprised me. It was just the the like from a trailer, like or because I didn’t even see a trailer. I just saw it pop up on Netflix, as you know, the the, The little preview that starts playing. And I was like.

Ardella

Yeah, that’s the trailer.

Quinny

Well, but it I didn’t even watch the whole thing like it was just sort of there in the background and I was. I don’t know what that is. But **** it looks cool.

Dion

Did you just hit it like a fricking pokie machine button? As soon as it popped up, you were like chin, let’s do this.

Quinny

My good addition. Yeah, sorry, Jill. You’re gonna.

Jill

Say something. Yeah, I think at the time, quinny, when you said. Hey, Jill, have you watched K pop demon hunters yet? I think my best friend had also watched it and had, like. Posted a story about it and all I heard all over Instagram was the the main song from it Golden. It was on everything and not just like animated clips of the movie, but like just people’s reels. They’re using that song. And so I was like, oh, no.

Speaker 4

Hmm.

Jill

This is the hype zone. Jill doesn’t like being.

Speaker 4

5th.

Jill

In the hype zone. Jill wants to avoid ever watching stuff that gets into the hype zone. I still have not watched Everything Everywhere, all at once because it got too hyped, so this was heading in that direction and went. Queenie, when you said to me, have you watched it yet? I was like, I’ll get to it.

Ardella

Was interesting that you mentioned that Jill, because there are theme crossovers.

Jill

Yeah. So I don’t push me. But then I. Kept hearing the bloody music. I’m like ****, this is a catchy song and then I think it got to like the following weekend and I’m like, I’m not gonna talk to anybody about this, but I’m gonna watch.

Speaker

It.

Jill

And I was like, oh, that’s great.

Quinny

Because I’ve seen so many people who, like, have watched it, and then it’s just become their whole personality.

Jill

Ohh yeah, I mean that was on heavy rotation like the album it was. It became a hyper fixation for a.

Quinny

Yes.

Jill

Week.

Dion

Wait, so can I just get this one like coming into this just a little bit blind, you know, from this whole stuff. So you’re telling me that there are real people in the real world that saw the small part of this and it’s become a hyper fixed?

Speaker 4

Yeah.

Dion

Which is mirroring the fact that the fans of this band in the fake world have a hyper fixation problem.

Ardella

So interestingly, interestingly, the soda pop song by the Demon Boy Band for a very long time there took over the charts from the actual you know, K pop boy band of the moment BTS.

Quinny

You say?

Speaker 4

Oh yes.

Dion

The soju boys. I love the soju boys, they’re great.

Speaker 4

Ohh I love some soju.

Quinny

Beck, how do you feel about this? Pineapple surgery.

Speaker 1

What?

Dion

Soulja boys.

Jill

I like the lemon one, it’s.

Dion

Delicious.

Jill

Kind of funky, but it’s good.

Dion

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like the one with the six pack.

Ardella

But what’s what’s really interesting about the soundtrack to this as compared to a traditional musical, is in a traditional musical, you’ve always got that one song that everyone skips or tunes out goes to the bathroom during it’s usually the one that the token old man sings.

Jill

Ohh OK.

Speaker 13

But.

Ardella

If you think about it, is.

Quinny

It’s the talk singing 1. You give it to the guy who can barely sing.

Jill

Ohh yeah yeah. Jeff Goldblum. Number in wicked. Yeah, exactly.

Ardella

There are no low points in this soundtrack and.

Quinny

In new tiles.

Ardella

I think even. The one song that when I was watching the movie for the first time I was like, this is kind of my bathroom breaks on. When I went back and listened to the soundtrack.

Speaker 13

Through by.

Ardella

Wolf it was still a banger. I was still singing along. I was still fully on board. I was finding all the hidden messages in the lyrics. I don’t think there is a a dud on this soundtrack.

Quinny

Nope. And as of 2 days ago, Golden went to literal #1 on the Billboard chart like it’s ******* stupid.

Ardella

Something that’s really cool about the creatives behind this entire movie is that the movie has so many authentic South Korean cultural elements to it that it has become huge in South Korea as well. And many, many people there.

Speaker 3

Hmm.

Ardella

Absolutely love it, which is so wonderful because there have has been a lot of outcry in the past about South Korean culture being misrepresented. And this is a wonderful example of cultural appreciation rather than appropriation, and one of the reasons behind that is that they have actually included many South Korean genuine K pop stars and producers, writers, and the singing voice of. The main main individual from home tricks. She was a K pop star in training who went away to go to school and stopped Kpop training. And when she came back to try and be a K pop star they told her she was too old and couldn’t do it. Anymore. And so she became a writer and a producer. Of K pop music instead, and now is singing on this and has gone to the top of the charts so incredibly hard. And I think that that lends this incredible authenticity to it, but also is kind of like a stuff you to the industry at the same time, which is amazing.

Dion

Because it’s look, it’s a curious thing about the the making of it, because actually, yes, I did. I watched the whole thing and then I even watched the credits where they showed all the behind the scenes bits of the people in there. And I thought that was really interesting. And then reading more about it and trying to find out more about it. I was like, oh, that’s interesting that they have. A bunch of Korean American. Others. Doing the voice work, but then a bunch of South Korean singers doing the song work and I was just a little bit like oh, oh, OK like why, why the need for the split like?

Ardella

They’re two different skill sets. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Quinny

You you don’t find that many actors who can sing that ******* well. Like who can sing to the level that is required of.

Ardella

Yeah. The vocal range in golden is outstanding. That is like 3 octaves of belting. That’s insanity.

Dion

I’m asking the question to not because I’m attacking the I’m not asking the question because I might. Why? They have to get more. You know, why is it a whole bunch of different sort of people in there?

Jill

Deon, Every Disney musical movie had a talking voice actress and a singing voice actress as well. It was.

Dion

I’m pretty sure John Oliver did all the singing for his parts as Zazu, right?

Ardella

Not all. Yeah, not all of them. I think the more recent ones like Moana, the.

Dion

Of course I know.

Jill

Yeah. The more, yeah, I mean, the classic ones, I mean the ones from the.

Ardella

Voice actor sings as well.

Jill

90s when we were kids.

Ardella

Yeah. Speaking of which.

Dion

Sure.

Jill

Yes, the travesty of casting Leah Salonga in this movie.

Ardella

Yeah. And then giving her 30 seconds of background vocals to do. Leah Salonga was the singing voice of Jasmine and Mulan, and is an incredible musical theatre.

Jill

Yeah, crazy.

Ardella

Actress and amazing singer and is in there as like the the main mentor character for the Huntress Girls. And has no real singing. It’s so background that I didn’t even notice when it happened.

Jill

It’s devastating, but.

Quinny

Yeah. Yeah. Like, like putting, I don’t know. One of the. Yeah. Mariah Carey is a background character.

Speaker 3

Yeah, yeah. Like what?

Ardella

Mariah would never let that happen.

Quinny

No, no, absolutely not. So what was it about it that that sort of caught your eye? Immediately because I know what put me on the back foot straight away and made me go. That’s different. But I’d love to. Know what you guys thought?

Dion

What? What? Yeah. So there’s two. There’s two parts in that which which caught your eye. And there was a bit that caught you on the back foot which.

Quinny

Was your question what? What caught your what? One you were talking about excited you, really. Grabbed you. What?

Dion

Was that what put you? What put you on the front foot? Linked you into this show?

Quinny

The. What? Yeah, yeah.

Jill

The music I think, like I I enjoy the odd K pop. I’m. I’m not a die hard. I’m not a I don’t have a bias. I’m not like fully into the K pop culture. But I do enjoy the music peripherally, and so I thought like the songs were so catchy. And then when I saw, like, some of the animated stuff, I’m like, ohh, that’s very reminiscent of the spider verse animation. And then I realized it was a Sony thing. And then I’m like, OK. Well, this is probably going to be good.

Ardella

Yeah. I think the thing that put me off was the time.

Speaker 4

Well.

Ardella

What the hell is that? Title K pop Demon Hunters makes me think that this is trash and it is trash, but the best kind of crack trash. It’s amazing.

Jill

Quinny

MHM.

Jill

OK, you know what? It’s 100% tapped into for me was the female power story, but based in music like. I was one of those kids that was like ohh yeah, I wanna be in a girl band like that was like one of my fantasy things when I was. A child, but. Also, like yeah, being a superhero too. And like Sailor Moon. Is so intrinsic for me. It really had those kind of vibes of like, you know, magical girls that can save the planet.

Quinny

Yeah. Yeah, that’s one of the first things I why I was like, ohh you would love it. Just for the magical girl factor. Like the the costume changes the.

Speaker 4

What’s this?

Quinny

The that that very Sailor Moon kind of vibe.

Ardella

What’s so interesting for me about? The introduction, just the opening sequence was that.

Speaker 2

Hmm.

Speaker

That.

Ardella

Funky kind of intro music. The the K pop music that it starts with reminds me a lot of earlier K pop when I was into it and some of my South Korean friends just roll their eyes at me because I think that my idea of K pop is like someone. These days, being like my favorite band is the Backstreet Boys. You know, it’s like ohh sweetie.

Jill

OK.

Ardella

There we go. Yeah, you’re you’re the the shush now, grandma. Everything’s fine. Because my my favourites were like the Wonder Girls. And you know quite quite early K pop. I think, you know, compared to what’s in today, but.

Dion

You can.

Ardella

It’s just so funky and fun, and the fact that. It immediately started with the classic K pop mixing of Korean lyrics in with English lyrics, and then the flip to rap in there as well, and the rap being in both Korean and English, it really grabbed me in that I was like, OK, this is. Actually K pop it, it’s not just in the name, they are actually going with it and I found it really interesting learning afterwards that the K pop element was the last thing to be added into this storyline.

Dion

Yeah.

Ardella

Interesting. Yeah, that that was the last kind of piece of the puzzle when they were developing this movie was creating it as a K pop story.

Dion

Which is very strange because I think the thing that made me. Sort of get on board a bit with it. Like a bit more was the fact that it was self aware enough to understand some of? The. Insanity behind massive mass market fandom? Not that anyone is immune to it, like it’s all around when you go looking hard and you know the West. The West has borrowed from the that that world very heavily in the past. Our last Spice Girls etcetera, etcetera.

Quinny

Not that hard.

Dion

Was the ability for it to just to be self aware take a bit of fun, have a bit of fun with it, and then continue on go like, yeah, we acknowledge that there’s this there is there is some weird **** that happens in that world and we’re just going to lean into it and understand that it’s part of it. And then move. For with the rest of it, you know, apart from the animation is great and the characters were somewhat likeable.

Quinny

There, there, there are two things that got me straight up. So initially looking at it, I thought oh, wow, this reminds me of what, KD A yeah, which, you know, is the the League of Legends K Pop group. And I was like, OK, we’re obviously kind of gonna. Yes. That’s the thing there.

Dion

Thank you. You’re not like you’re saying things like Katie and I’m like, wait, is it three letter acronym? Should I know? What the **** is going on here? Kill. Kill, death, aggression.

Quinny

K/BA.

Dion

Right, OK. So just just help me with. This it’s a foreign territory.

Quinny

They they are a a AK pop group that was done by the animation company that did League of Legends. So they’ve they’ve got a couple of songs that I actually have no idea how many songs they have about that. And I looked at that and I thought, OK, there’s a touch point. But the thing that and I have the same thing. Hip hop demon hunters. What a stupid ******* name. But watching it, I got to about 5 minutes in and the moment that they’re on the plane and. And they allowed their characters to be ugly and to do stupid faces. And they’re beautiful characters who are fully, you know, gorgeous and made-up, and everything are burping and, like, eating ramen and fighting like ******* demons. But at the same time, they are. Very, very comedic and and I was like oh. ****, this is really kind of like as as soon as I watch it. I was like, this is gonna play to a a female crowd so. Well because it’s not saying look at these perfect, you know, pristine things. These are people who just want to have snacks and lie on the couch and you know relax and be ******* normal. Humans, but at the same time, they want to be super powerful. You know, warlocks that are protecting the world from demons and **** like that. Like this is every little girl’s ******* dream combined and. I was like, holy ****.

Jill

Yeah, like women can be multifaceted. They’re not just put into one box.

Quinny

The power of that.

Jill

As one thing.

Ardella

They can, but there’s absolutely no way an actual K pop band would be allowed to pig out on.

Speaker 4

Junk. Yeah, that’s the thing. It’s.

Ardella

That’s not happening in the real life world, I’m sorry to say. That is. I mean, when we think about.

Dion

But but but. The dropping in out of a plane? Sure.

Speaker 4

Just.

Ardella

Kind of disbelief there. Day on. Yeah, carries through. It carries through. But I do think that it’s interesting having that acknowledgement of. I mean it, it’s it’s an an issue, an underlying issue. I think the treatment of pop stars and this isn’t just a problem in South Korea with K pop or in Japan with J Pop, although it’s a very similar kind of culture from my understanding, yeah, in the their K pop J pop. Machines that churn out these bands that are designed and kind of almost bread to create hype and money and. All of this, we see it in like Dan was saying in. The Spice Girls.

Quinny

Yep.

Ardella

As well, we see it in these manufactured bands that have been created to take our love and to take our money, OK.

Quinny

The eagles.

Jill

There’s literally another program on Netflix right now called building the band.

Ardella

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And I think it’s really interesting then to look at our K pop demon band. And see that they are. They’re they’re saying the quiet part out loud with with the demon boy band here. But the reality is that that is what all K pop bands are. They are there to take the love to take the energy and to take the money of their fans. And they’ve been created. Expressly to do that. And so I I just find that really interesting to have. That kind of duality on display where we’re saying no hunt tricks are the the good guys when the reality is that. All K pop bands are there to do exactly what the Demon Boy band are doing.

Dion

Yes.

Quinny

And that duality is also encompassed in the lead character as well that, yeah, there are so many elements of things that she is not comfortable with. There’s elements of her public perception that she’s not comfortable with and. You kind of like the stories of the three characters. You know that that one of them is the bad girl who doesn’t get on with her family. The other ones come from, you know, America and is is a a rapper, but she’s also really sweet. All of these things are. Prepackaged they’re made to make them assailable, you know, definable feature.

Ardella

A personality.

Quinny

Yeah, yeah, that people can latch on to, but then you’re also watching and going. Yeah, they’re really funny. And they’re really cool. And I like them. And, you know, they’re they’re little horn dogs. And they, they, they just turn into popcorn and.

Dion

Thank, thankfully. Yeah, I mean, thankfully, you know, they they expressed all those lessons and of course that was the end of it. And this is all we have when. There’s one. Oh, no. That’s why there’s going to be sequels and a TV show and a live stage show. And it’s like, oh, oh, no, the demons won. Ohh no.

Jill

That’s one thing that I I would like to talk about a bit more is like the actual structure of the story. I know we’re not gonna give anything away, but I was interested that it was a movie. TV and not a TV series because I felt like there could have been a lot more character development actually happened throughout a TV series. I wanted more about the back story of the girl’s mentor. I wanted a little bit more time with the Saga boys in the demon. From in general, yeah, just a little bit more fleshing out of story I thought would be great.

Ardella

Apparently it was originally 3 hours long and I. Saw. Someone, I think it might have been tally in the in the chat mentioned that earlier.

Jill

I’d watch 3 hours of this.

Quinny

Yeah, I’m there for, I mean.

Speaker 3

Actually really.

Ardella

Joined a 90 minute movie though.

Speaker 4

We have so many long.

Speaker 3

Yeah, yeah.

Ardella

*** films coming out these days and the pacing in this felt great. I would much rather be left wanting more than be left sitting on my couch, scrolling Instagram halfway through because I’m like, this is a this is a.

Speaker

I wanted.

Jill

Sure.

Ardella

Dull bed.

Quinny

Yeah, yeah, this is the song that I’m not into. And that’s the reprise of the song. I’m not. Into.

Speaker 13

It’s the old man song again.

Speaker

Ohh.

Quinny

It’s something I did like though is is while I was watching it. I you know the first number I was like ohh yeah, this is pretty cool. And then within the 1st 13 minutes, there were three, you know, musical numbers, completely different songs. Like I was watching, and I was like, oh ****, this is a secret musical. It’s not that secret, but it’s a proper musical and that, I mean, for me, for my, my taste, that was ******* great sick. Amazing and like to your point, Dion, I immediately then go totally see. This is a stage. And to your point, Beck. Ohh one of you. I’m not sure who was. Yes, I could see it working as a series because there’s a lot more to explore, and while Dion, I know that you’re like the capitalist pigs, they’re just trying to make money out of the kids sometimes. That’s OK. Because this is a ******* cool story.

Speaker 4

Yeah, I I mean.

Ardella

If you do like everyone wants our money, it is a we live in a society.

Speaker

Oh.

Jill

Here at the in the high points of the capitalism, my friend.

Ardella

Yeah, but I think that there is a a way that feel feels friendly and genuine to do that and this is hitting that nail for me. And there’s a way that feels inauthentic and.

Speaker

Hmm.

Ardella

Cash grabby and that’s not this at the moment. We’ll see how many spin offs they try and squeeze out of this and when it tips that line.

Speaker

Sure.

Ardella

But I think at the moment it still feels.

Dion

And in 15 years, when Netflix rolls back around and makes a live action version of the K pop Demon Hunters franchise, we will know hey. Yeah, now.

Ardella

Warm and flat.

Quinny

Ohh, so he said. They’re not doing it.

Dion

If you’re talking about.

Quinny

They they they got, they got absolutely ******* pilloried on the Internet when the initial run of things that they announced was live action. Make stage show and ongoing series. Everyone said do not ******* do this live action they.

Dion

Quinny. Went OK. Producers don’t care. It’s just that now there’s a lot of complaints. They’ll wait till they’re less complaints and then they’ll do it anyway for a tax break. That’s how the system works, quinny.

Speaker 4

That.

Quinny

So you’ve got another K pop.

Dion

People.

Speaker 6

Exactly.

Speaker 3

For me.

Speaker

You know like.

Dion

Stuff will happen that way, unfortunately and sometimes, fortunately, anyway, philosophically.

Ardella

Well, the sequel has already been greenlit by Netflix, which is unsurprising given that this is apparently in the couple of months that it’s been out a month and 1/2 that it’s been out. It has already topped all other animated movies on Netflix for the most watched.

Dion

Yeah. And we’re a good time behind as we have already. Explain like in in terms of the pickup of this is that came out in June, you know and it’s now **** me, August.

Quinny

Yes.

Speaker

Yeah.

Quinny

That’s the official date.

Dion

Yeah, yeah. Every time I look at the calendar these days.

Ardella

It is now **** me.

Dion

I’m like ****. Anyway.

Quinny

I’m Jill. I want to know on your your new rating system, how many? How many tips have you got less after this?

Speaker 4

****. No. I think that’s a good.

Jill

2 tips off.

Dion

Ohh no **** left.

Speaker 4

Yeah, yeah, I it it. Yeah, it. Put my ****.

Jill

Off I enjoyed it a lot more than I.

Dion

Jill is Jill is untited.

Jill

Was expecting to because like. I know Queenie loves animation and so his glowing review was like Oh well, it’s gotta be good. And then also my friend who loves K pop and and animation as well and even her husband who enjoys animation like both raved about it. So I’m like, OK well. This has got to be good. That kind of got me in to watch it, but it’s so strange that like. I then convinced my other friend group to watch it and they were all like, oh, this is very kiddy and every everybody else thought it was. It was quite junior, but I didn’t really. Get that read.

Quinny

No.

Jill

They were like ohh it seems like a bit of a teen bop kind of thing and I’m like, well, I am 15 years old. Guys like, that’s why I like it.

Speaker 4

I think this.

Ardella

Is very Shrek adjacent in the figure. Pitch the kid. TV like category if you want to put.

Jill

Yeah, but there’s.

Ardella

It there, but it’s so grown up.

Jill

This was the stuff for the horn bag older women like.

Speaker 4

Is that what you say, Shrek? Yes.

Quinny

She’s not.

Dion

Shrek can get it.

Speaker

I mean.

Dion

Shrek can’t get. I mean, sorry. Before we go into the ratings, which we should do soon to try.

Speaker 4

Yeah.

Quinny

No, no. We need to talk about so.

Dion

And keep in time.

Quinny

Many more things.

Dion

Yeah, there are many things to talk about. The the Quinny, you did raise a point to me the other day talking about K pop demon hunters, which is going. Yes, it’s an interesting comparison, like an interesting comparison film to perfect blue, which we talked about recently too and.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Dion

I was like. You may have a point.

Jill

Maybe not a companion piece.

Dion

There.

Quinny

I don’t know. I think I think they’re a fantastic companion faced 11 after the other and just.

Dion

Thematically. Thematically, it’s it’s somewhat similar in in in certain ways, not not the same way, like let’s they’re too.

Jill

Ones are very dark and twisted version.

Dion

Exactly, but they both.

Quinny

Yeah, what’s when’s the demons we met. Along the way.

Dion

But they both talk about fandoms. They both talk about the some of the crushing nature of conformity and having to represent yourself as something you may not be, and the damage that that could do. And. And let’s be honest, yeah, it diverges. Very, very different. But there are interesting themes and it’s really interesting to me to think about that. That film made back in the 90s was like working out these problems then and how far we’ve come and how we relate to it. Now, how creatives are relating to that now in this space with, you know, capable demon hunters is like, yeah, look at all these. Things that are still pretty much a problem, but we’re going to acknowledge that they have been a problem and that, you know, these are the things and but we still keep going because we have good messages that we want to try to put out. And if we could all make some money, that’s. Great. But if we have competition, we will crush. It that’s one take away I got from from like K Pop bands is they crush each other.

Speaker 1

Also.

Dion

As they can.

Jill

In the charts in the.

Dion

Yeah, it’s in the chat, but literally.

Quinny

Charts that I think you know differentiate some really very differently is that in perfect blue fandom is seen as being toxic and dangerous and bad. In this one fandom is is the beautiful glowing. Power of house that will save the world and die on your face. Is telling me that you ain’t buying any of this.

Dion

I think that’s a stretch.

Ardella

Ship, haven’t we all been in a a stadium watching a band that you love and just all singing along at once and just felt that that vibe? I mean, it’s what gets people into cult. So you know that it can be used for good or for ill.

Quinny

I was we we we both watched 11,000 with 11,000 other people. People rolled dice.

Speaker 14

Yeah.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Dion

I mean I.

Speaker 3

Yeah, it’s.

Dion

Went I went to the Jared Leto 1 and that was fine. I’m normal.

Ardella

It’s a powerful thing, is what I’m getting at, yeah.

Quinny

Yeah.

Dion

I get.

Speaker

Quinny

You and in the chat a couple of people mentioned that there’s a comparison with the Puss in Boots, the last Wish, same automotive.

Ardella

I thought his favorite movie of all time.

Dion

I still haven’t. I still haven’t watched it. Even though you keep telling me I. I know. I know get that ***** kids. You know, like there’s only so many.

Quinny

Fine.

Ardella

Come here. We will. Clockwork Orange you again.

Dion

Alright, time to go to my friend’s house and be forced. Watched it or something.

Quinny

Yeah.

Ardella

That’s how I feel about the drunk DC. Watches that we’ve.

Dion

Oh yeah, we still gonna. Do that one.

Quinny

Hmm.

Dion

I still haven’t seen Aquaman 2. Can we bookend it? Which? One should go first, is it?

Speaker 2

Oh.

Speaker 13

I didn’t even know.

Ardella

There was an Aquaman. Ohh yeah.

Speaker 4

Yes, ******* all.

Dion

Yeah. Anyway, OK, think of your think of your ratings. Yes, rate, rate and rate and spoil.

Speaker 4

Should we right and then spoil? Yeah, yes, yes, yes.

Quinny

And if you have seen it in the chat, drop me some numbers so that I can put them into the thing I love. I love keeping an eye out for them.

Dion

Look, OK, I’ll look. I’ll start. Cause Get Me Out of the way. Why? Not. RIP the Band-Aid. Off, yeah, I look, I had a fun time because it was quite poppy and exciting and the animation is actually quite flawless. I like the characters all had a bit of humanity in them. They weren’t that way. U. Kind of. Everyone kind of worked. There’s definitely a saleable marketable thing going because that blue cat is why is that not a plushy already?

Speaker 4

Oh yes.

Quinny

Going to tell you about the blue cat.

Ardella

Derpy is his name.

Dion

Derpy is great. Yeah. OK, all the like. It’s good. I can see the the bit of the franchise there. And I can also see.

Speaker

He loves derpy.

Dion

Me having to scream when I hear the song again after the yeah, yeah. Yeah. 100% not for me, but I will give it 75. Because yeah, like, I think it’s good. Like if someone said, hey, you know, should I watch K pop diamonds? I’m like, yeah, like, you know, I recommend it to people with small kids. I don’t recommend all the way up to people who are 75. Yeah. I was the whole gamut. You can get something out of it. There is a good message in there.

Ardella

75 yeah.

Dion

And I think it’s quite a little hidden gem or. Unreleased jam, even if you don’t particularly like K Pop.

Quinny

Fair, Jill. Sorry.

Jill

Yeah. Look, I’m so excited to say that I have no tips after this film. It’s been a while. It’s been a while, but I am going to give it a 90.

Speaker

Off.

Quinny

We yellow.

Jill

Been a while since we’ve hit the nines for me, but I love that animation. There were just some moments where I was like. What am I watching like? This is just like the textures and everything were so ******* beautiful. There were moments where I’m like Christ, that looks almost realistic.

Speaker 1

Mm-hmm.

Jill

Loved how everybody had a personality. Everyone was like, different. Had their clerks had their faults, like had their beautiful moments. The only reason why it’s not getting more is because there were just some like small unresolved story things that I wish had been explored a little bit more, but. Other than that. We loved it.

Quinny

Heck, do you want to drop a number?

Ardella

Quinny

Nice.

Ardella

I’m a harsh marker, but what can I say? It’s interesting that you mentioned the animation, Jill, because one of the beautiful things that I’ve learned is that the hunt tricks characters our protagonists are animated in a very traditional way, which means that every second frame they move. Whereas our demon Boy band animated differently where they move every single frame and there are certain times at where it’s poignant in the movie where they swim.

Speaker

Which?

Ardella

Ohh and so there’s there’s lots of super cool things that happen behind the scenes that we don’t consciously recognise, but it’s doing stuff to our brains and I think it’s really, really cool. So yeah, I think the more that I learn about this movie and the work that’s gone in behind the scenes, the more I love it. And that’s why it’s really reaching those top numbers.

Quinny

Oh.

Dion

You gotta respect a bit of filmmaking.

Quinny

Yeah.

Dion

Bit of craft work in there.

Ardella

Exactly.

Quinny

And and that’s very much like the first spider verse. Yes, where like they were animating different characters on different frame rates and you know the the attention to detail. And one of the things that gets me about this is the. The absolute love for Korean culture, but also Korean mythology, and it’s also going to be very, very interesting down the track. Seeing people cosplay from it because already there have been people who have gone to do cosplays of the Soulja Boys and so forth and have had to. That that question of appropriation or appreciation. Is very difficult around certain parts of costumes because the hats are an actual part of a very specific part of Korean culture that you really can’t **** with. Yeah. So like the fact.

Ardella

Historical Korean culture, not even current really Korean culture as far as I’m aware as well.

Quinny

Yeah. Hmm. So yeah, whipping one up out of warbler is is kind of not. Not cool, not kosher. And that kind of.

Ardella

Derpy is my next cosplay. Yeah.

Quinny

Thing. And when we come back from the the and everything, I will talk about Derpy because that’s another piece of amazing Korean history and culture right there. My rating is 95. I ******* watched the **** out of it and love the **** out of it. The like the music aspect of it, I I’m not a big K pop fan or anything like that. I I don’t listen to a lot of that music, but I didn’t care because it was super catchy. The vocals were insane. I love that mix of of like the three different voices and the three different styles. Of the girls like that, you know, one will drop into really American style rap, but they’re all capable of rapping. They’ll all take, you know, high parts, low parts. But at the same time, then mix it with a bunch of really cool choreography and and martial arts. Mix in some extra mythology, add some cute characters. I love the fact that you know secondary characters are given a bit of love to like. The band’s manager is. Not a ********. You know how ******* lovely is it that that you know, you’re not just going? Yeah. The traditional ******** band manager? No, he ******* loves.

Dion

Them. Did you not learn anything from Jersey and the Pussycats? What the? ****.

Speaker

Yeah.

Quinny

Yeah, I I just, I mean, as I was watching, I just kept thinking, Oh my God, this is this is a thing for a generation of of girls to watch and. And relate to and want to be and emulate and I suddenly understood that whole thing that all the girls in primary school would go off and learn dances. And then to tie that whole thing that that you know, people want to do of of singing and dancing with, like, spiritual power and empowerment and protectiveness. I was just like, **** me. So yeah, I got a little love for it. I really don’t have much bad to say about it, which is, I mean, I don’t want to give it 100 because that would be ridiculous, but ****** really enjoyed.

Dion

It you can give it a.

Speaker 13

100 and that’s just the surface story.

Quinny

I know we haven’t even talked about what it all means.

Dion

Can’t wait for you to review the stage musical 350,000 out of.

Quinny

Review it, I’m going. To direct the. *******.

Dion

Which would you like to go? Would you like to meet the? Boys or yeah. With that one, we see who, who we. Talking about here, who are the Sargent boys? Sounds weird?

Speaker

Yeah.

Speaker 3

Look normal.

Speaker 5

Ohh yeah.

Speaker 6

Come on. Take your time. Yeah.

Speaker 14

Just like.

Speaker

Yeah.

Speaker 2

Ohh hot.

Speaker 3

You guys are so gross.

Speaker 6

No, yet you go hot. Then we’ll go. He.

Dion

Ohh that is just harsh. No helping hand there whatsoever. So the Sarja boys are a bit of * ****, really, aren’t they? They’re just *****. Hot *****.

Speaker

Yes.

Jill

Yeah, but they’re hot. They’re hot.

Speaker 4

Hot *****.

Dion

Yeah. Yeah, Jesus.

Jill

I’m going to tell you like we went to smash. What was it like 3 weeks ago? The artist Alley was chocolate block of K pop demon hunters. Art anything? Right with that tiger on, it was sold.

Quinny

Oh.

Dion

Right.

Jill

Out. Yeah, right. Good. There were. There’s a scene in the film where the both of the bands are Hunter Eggs and the Sergeant Boys are doing a meet and greet with fans.

Quinny

Oh my God. So.

Jill

And Abby, the gentleman with the. Tabs instead of signing a piece of paper with his name, he runs like pencil against a piece of paper on his ABS, and that’s his signature. There were drawings of that in the artist Alley for sale. The insanity.

Dion

I love Jesus. Yeah. I mean, OK question here. I don’t understand why I have questions now and spoil the logo is up and we’ll talk about spoil everythings if you like. Yeah, it’s been a month. It’s been out for quite a long time. I get derpy the thing.

Jill

Of this movie.

Speaker 14

Yes.

Dion

But what was with the strange Game of Thrones crossover with the Three Eyed Raven?

Speaker

Quinny

Do you want the?

Speaker 4

It’s not a Game of Thrones crossover deal on.

Dion

Everything’s a Game of Thrones crossover.

Ardella

It’s.

Quinny

Heck, do you wanna take it?

Ardella

Quinty no quinny you take this, you are so keen.

Quinny

No, I was so keen. But I I mean, I’m guessing we’ve probably watched the same explainer videos and stuff.

Speaker 13

No, I I read I don’t. Watch.

Quinny

Ohh God, within you actually.

Jill

Jesus, she’s an intellectual.

Speaker 13

Exactly. Where’s my glasses?

Quinny

Just need to take these things off and becomes derpy. The ******* yeah, well.

Dion

You’re on. You’re on.

Jill

Stick your tongue out.

Dion

New media now not only this traditional lofi media that you may try.

Speaker 2

Oh.

Quinny

Yeah. So OK, it’s not a Raven, it’s a magpie. And in Korean culture, the A, this is a it’s a historical joke. So the, the, the, the tiger and the magpie is the punchline of a historical joke. That tigers were traditionally shown as being the representative of the upper class and of rich culture, and specifically the governing class, and the magpie was the symbol of the lower class, the worker. Pass whatever and the hat which I’ve got to remember the name of. Thank you. If somebody wants to look it up for me, that’d be great. The hat is essentially a symbol of power. And so there’s a joke, or there’s a moment in there where the sorry.

Dion

It’s called a gap. It’s called a get, yeah.

Speaker 4

Yeah.

Jill

Yeah, ginu ginu.

Quinny

So.

Jill

Said he made it for the tiger.

Quinny

So yeah, that’s the joke is that it’s a symbol of power that was meant for the tiger, but the magpie keeps stealing it.

Speaker

Ah.

Quinny

And so it’s the it’s a symbol that the lower class will always get one up on the upper class because the upper class is ******* stupid and that’s why he’s derpy. And you’ll see in a lot of Korean art, tigers are always drawn slightly cross eyed or just a little bit dumb looking.

Jill

Quinny

And it’s because essentially, they’re just going upper class. The stupid look at the smart magpie with three eyes, you can see everything.

Dion

So this is exactly like parasite.

Ardella

Yeah, that’s what we’re saying.

Speaker 4

Yeah.

Dion

No, just that that character representation of the blue cat and the magpie is just parasite as a metaphor.

Quinny

Yeah.

Jill

Yeah. Yep, yeah.

Quinny

And and it makes that sequence where where Derpy comes out and knocks over the plant and then just can’t get it to stand up way too long. Like ohh you stupid.

Speaker

Yes. Thank you.

Dion

But it’s good to know, you know, like, I like those little trivia bits. It’s fun. It’s fun to.

Ardella

Learn. Feel like I I was so. Impressed that for the first time I think ever.

Speaker

Hmm.

Ardella

A Netflix trailer. Managed to intrigue and make me want to watch more and actually get me invested in the story without giving away the actual plot. Yeah, there is. There is a very surface level plot being shown out there and I think now that people are, you know, watching more of the clips on TikTok and Instagram and that sort of thing and watching even the golden video clip, they’ll, you might get spoiled.

Quinny

Hmm.

Ardella

Before watching the movie, if you’ve seen all of that, but for me my first tip popped off in the opening in.

Quinny

In the you’re missing how many sticks are you missing?

Ardella

Well, I have lost the second hit for me when the pattern reveal.

Speaker 7

Hmm.

Ardella

Happened in the.

Speaker

Ah.

Ardella

There was. It is very rare that any movie, a movie directed for adults with high levels of intelligence, they rarely get me with the whoa. What happened there was seeing that coming. This movie did that, I gasped. At that reveal, there were. There was nothing in me that thought that that was coming and that is so rare these days. I am so impressed that this movie called K Pop Demon. And so kind of surface level, you know, just fun on top, managed to have this flip. It had this beautiful level of depth to it. I just really loved that so much. I would have enjoyed, I think, a movie where it was just a, you know, magical girl. Banned fighting demons. I would have enjoyed that anyway, but this went a step further.

Speaker

Hmm.

Quinny

So in when we’re talking about the patterns and we’re talking about that, that reveal and that question about Rumi. What are the? Different like so I think that there are so many different layers of what it could mean. And I think one of the things that’s really smart about the film is that. It. Doesn’t specifically say it means any one thing. But what? What did you guys?

Ardella

Because they’re they’re waiting for the sequel or the spin offs or.

Jill

Yeah. So we’re gonna get the story that gives you the back story about, like who roomie’s father was and what happened to her mother and the the what were they called the Sunshine Sisters or whatever.

Quinny

Yeah.

Speaker

Yeah.

Jill

The.

Quinny

Yeah.

Jill

Band. Was and then we also need to have Gino come back because that was unfair how he went. Out. I know it was a beautiful sacrifice, but no, I want Ginyu back.

Ardella

He’s now in the blade, though. If you if you watch the sequence, you can see his spirit get pulled into the blade, which is an actual thing in Korean.

Quinny

Oh no.

Ardella

Mythology. Spirit blades. I believe. I believe I’m not Korean. Please correct me if I’m wrong.

Jill

OK, well I love. I love me as sexy anthropomorphize spirit coming out. Of the sword. So I’ll take. Yeah.

Speaker 3

And then the grade.

Ardella

Changes once his spirit is absorbed into it, so you can see the two different forms of the the blades are.

Jill

I need to ******* watch this movie again. Don’t.

Ardella

Very, very cool.

Speaker 13

I let’s go right now.

Quinny

Yeah, yeah.

Dion

Let’s see. We’re doing a watch along right now.

Speaker 4

It’s.

Jill

Now become a live stream.

Quinny

So damn, what was your you? You had some different takes on on what, some of that meaning may have? Been.

Dion

Which what do you mean the the meaning of which the whole?

Quinny

Thing of the past.

Dion

There’s a lot going on me was there? Did I say something that I’ve I’ve undoubtedly forgotten since yesterday?

Quinny

On. Yeah, well, quite possibly. So, I mean there there’s, there’s that whole thing of like being, you know, intergenerational trauma, like of this is the Korean trauma. Of what? Their history is the split of the country, North and South Korea, which you can read into that. You could also read into it an LGBT thing of this thing that you have to keep hidden about. Yourself. And whether or not she’s allowed to be, especially in K pop, the idea that is she allowed to be who she actually is. Because that is not appropriate like that whole thing of you wearing marks on your. That. You have to keep hidden. I think it has a lot of meaning for a lot of different people for probably a lot of different reasons.

Speaker 1

MHM.

Ardella

Yes, I would agree. I would hesitate to say that this is implying that Ruby is LGBTQIA plus at all, but I have 100% think that people who are LGBTQ a.

Quinny

No, not necessarily.

Ardella

Us could find a lot of parallels there.

Quinny

Yeah, I think that that’s sort of like that X-Men kind of thing. It’s like, yeah, no, we’re not saying that these characters are gay or whatever, but they are a fantastic.

Ardella

Except the ones that.

Quinny

Are. Yeah. So my my best X-Men guy.

Ardella

I think it’s really interesting. We’re seeing a lot of this storyline coming out in a lot of Asian and Asian American stories over the last decade especially, I’ve noticed a a real through line in a lot of the media that I’ve seen, at least. Where these cultures seem to be very much from an outsider perspective. Very much about conforming and not rocking the boat and being being part of a whole community that works well together because everyone kind of assimilates and and doesn’t step outside of the mold or make anyone uncomfortable. And I think yeah, exactly. I think that there is a lot of media coming out these days.

Jill

Yeah, homogeneous.

Ardella

And it’s interesting, Jill, that you mentioned Everything Everywhere all at once earlier, because that’s definitely part of the story behind that movie and and a real message in that movie is. Is that we need to allow the newer generations to be a little bit more unique and individual and celebrate that as something that is wonderful and and adds colour to our cultures and our societies, rather than being something that we should squash. Or avoid and to me, that’s what the patterns were and that’s what you know, was a a real underlying message behind this story is it’s not about conforming, it’s about celebrating what’s unique and individual about each of us.

Jill

Yeah.

Quinny

Yeah, I I did just check and and the reason I brought it up is because of the writer did say that the the intent was that it was a. Bit like coming. Out to your parents? Ohh, so she was. She was. It was a very deliberate piece to say hey, it’s like that. She’s not saying that Remy is, you know.

Dion

So coming out.

Ardella

I mean, could be you go off in your head cannons out there.

Dion

To your friends. Also coming coming out to your friends who have literally been trained to murder. You.

Speaker 13

Your your partner.

Quinny

Yeah.

Dion

For the whole thing.

Speaker 4

Yes.

Dion

Look, I like the little bit of the sort of Buffy the Vampire Slayer chosen. Ones. You know, how do we do this? We just kind of go and kill these faithless demons which there are thousands and thousands and thousands of them, apart from the very special one.

Quinny

Yeah, very.

Dion

That ohh wait. Yes. Yes. So you know I got that sort of storyline.

Ardella

Although I do think that there is a pot, I mean obviously we see Janus. Progression where he was genuinely villainous. He was * ****. Wow, what * **** we learned.

Dion

Sure. What is it again with? Absolutely ancient men and young women.

Jill

That’s like type.

Speaker 4

Being like can.

Ardella

You I I just want to be rich and wealthy at the expense of my family. What a ******* nightmare, human. But then.

Speaker

And.

Ardella

Obviously evolves and become someone who we can genuinely sympathise with, I think, but I feel like we also, especially in that scene, I think Jill, you mentioned the the signing scene, we see a lot of the other members of the Demon Boy Band of the Sargent Boys.

Speaker 4

Yeah, yeah.

Ardella

Have a little bit more personality and a little bit more empathy, I think, than I was expecting and I I would be interested to see that explored a bit more. As well, yeah.

Speaker 1

Hmm.

Quinny

One thing I do love is also the the historical mythological context of it too, that the the idea of the the Singing priestess is is quite a a long history in Korean culture. So the moon or mudang not mudang. Are a an offshoot of of Korean shamanism who their their whole thing was, you know, singing to keep their people safe and, you know, reach out and and bridge the world between gods and humans and so forth. And you see that at the at the very start, like there’s the flashback to the original ones. They’re they’re all traditional like priestess outfits. But then the fact that they’re, you know, really latching into the the Korean singing group thing. You know that there was another group in the 50s and the 60s called the the Kim Sisters. Who group of three well known all around the world, appeared on the Ed Sullivan Show. Did like 22 shows over the years on Ed Sullivan. Like that kind of thing. We’re going. Yes, we’re gonna do it. I love the idea that we could have, you know, stories told in different time frames.

Ardella

Yeah. And before the Kim’s sisters, there was the Jair Gory sisters. I think it’s pronounced and they were also a three piece girl band who we assume is kind of being referenced in that introduction as well.

Dion

Can can we just make sure that we even if we go across different time periods they still kill demo? That’s right. Yes, as long as there’s still some demon hunting and killing going on in there. I’m fine. I’m on board with it.

Ardella

Like.

Quinny

100%.

Speaker 4

Absolutely.

Ardella

100 percent, 100% yeah. I also need to mention I’m sure many of us already know this, but Saja as the name of the Saja boys also has multiple meanings. It means lion.

Dion

Yeah, yeah.

Ardella

But it is also a kind of slang term for the grim Reaper. So there’s that duality there. So that’s that’s why they have the lion like logo. That’s what they’re saying. That’s the that’s the loud part. They’re like, we’re the Lion Boys essentially, but.

Speaker 2

Oh.

Quinny

I didn’t know.

Dion

That, and also dark and mysterious.

Quinny

And.

Ardella

It’s also. Through. Yeah, slang for the grim Reaper in South Korea.

Quinny

And I don’t think I would have understood or appreciated this film if I hadn’t for the past couple of years had an awful lot to do with idol culture like, yeah, but I I’ve learned a lot in the past few years of working for idol festivals and, you know. The whole idol scene and. And. Something that I find fascinating and is really like key to the film, but it’s sort of unless you’ve seen the crowds doing their thing in person. The relationship between crowd and band. Is incredibly intense. Like and the crowds at these events are not. Just, you know, observers, they’re part of the show and they see their role really importantly, you know, all of the glow glowing sticks that they’re holding up all of the colours that they choose to wear, the fact that they, you know, stand a particular singer or whatever and will then change the.

Ardella

They’re bias.

Quinny

Yeah, yeah. You know, they will do all these things and like, you’ll see them during songs. Like I watch them at smash people climbing up on each other’s shoulders just so that they can. Performatively go. You know, I’m not actually singing at you. I’m just showing you how much I appreciate what you’re doing. Is like if you don’t know about it, you’re gonna think it’s ******* weird as ****, which I did for a while, but then when you see it, you go ohh. OK, I get it. And now I watch this film and you realize why so much time is spent with the fandom as well, like. They they spend a lot of time, you know, looking at the the kinds of fans who have latched on to these people. Is it the the sex starved older ladies? Is it the preteen girls who are just utterly, you know, smitten? Is it the big boofy guys who will cry at the drop of a hat? You know, all of that is.

Ardella

I think it’s interesting, though, to suggest that it’s just a AK pop thing or a J pop thing or something like that where you have these biases when you think about, you know, kiss people would wear their specific band members makeup style to go to a kiss concert. It’s it’s a similar.

Quinny

Oh, not at all.

Speaker 4

Yeah, it’s just all.

Jill

About finding community and the things that. You love, yeah.

Quinny

Yeah. Really. And. And it’s also like I remember I wanted to write a ******* paper on this at one point. It’s the the concept of avatar rism that you wear the thing that you want to take on the, the, the, the feeling of you know, so.

Jill

Dude, I’ve done it for 20 years doing cosplay.

Speaker 13

Exactly. Hello cosplay? Yeah.

Quinny

And cosplay is cosplay is like the the the doing it out loud and doing it at the biggest possible way. But for other people it’s that whole thing of wearing your favorite band T-shirt or wearing a Superman T-shirt or wearing, you know something. It’s that thing of.

Jill

Yeah.

Quinny

This gives me all these feelings. And I want to then wear it so that I can try and, you know.

Jill

Yeah. Now, name five of their. Songs.

Ardella

Jesus.

Speaker 4

Yeah.

Ardella

And when you bring that all together, it really is. Powerful and I.

Quinny

Hmm.

Ardella

Think that that’s what they’re they’re tapping into on both sides here where you know that it can be used for good or for evil.

Quinny

Yeah. And. And the idea that a golden home moon only comes when, like, everybody’s actually being true about who they are, you know, that’s a it’s a pretty powerful ******* feeling. Yeah.

Speaker

Beautiful.

Dion

Yeah, beautiful. Speaking of powerful feelings. What are we doing for the rest of? The month, I don’t know. You don’t. You don’t know. Even though you you know exactly what it is. We’ve got a few things. There’s a lot going on in the month of the Merry, Merry month of August. We’ve got lots of movies that are out there. Things like nobody too.

Quinny

I do have a do in front of.

Dion

And one that we’re gonna see tomorrow night, which is. Weapons.

Quinny

Yeah.

Dion

You need the weapon. Give me the yeah. OK.

Ardella

I saw an ad for weapon the other night which just said 100% on Rotten Tomatoes and it was a print ad and I was like that. That’s a that’s a strong choice.

Dion

Yeah.

Speaker 1

Hmm.

Jill

From the team that brought us barbarian.

Dion

Yeah.

Jill

He ******* loves barbarian.

Dion

Yeah, that was. That was one that came out of left field was like we watch a movie called Barbarian. OK, we see what this is like. Holy ******* ****. That’s yeah.

Jill

Yeah, what’s that’s about?

Dion

Yeah. Is that Craig’s weapon so? Interesting. We’ll see how that goes and then the rest of the month, we are going to have a look at the television that’s coming out. So we’ve got what is it? Twisted metal. We did. Yeah. Twist. Twisted Metal season 2. Chief of War Season 1. You know, I I don’t know about how to trying to convince.

Quinny

Looking forward.

Speaker 4

Yeah, we get a.

Jill

Lot of movies the last couple of months. So time to. I would back to the TV.

Dion

You wanted to go back to seeing another Jason Momoa.

Speaker 4

They should.

Quinny

I literally said to him in the office the other day I was like, is this just another season of see and he couldn’t answer.

Speaker

So.

Dion

I didn’t answer him, decided to not to keep that on there. Also. We’re gonna see alien Earth finally comes out this month. And peacemaker season 2 is coming.

Quinny

Out which I’m I’m down for so.

Dion

Any of that back make you totally excited for this month of August? No.

Ardella

My **** have just been put back.

Speaker 13

On I have reattached the ****.

Dion

Another way back home now. Also. Also, we’re gonna try and get out and see the next naked gun film.

Speaker 1

No.

Quinny

Yeah, which has been getting ******* rave reviews.

Dion

Look, I mean, all I gotta say is I did go back and watch naked gun 1/2 and 1/2 and 33 and a third and let me say some of that is just choice, comedy and then other stuff should be buried. And thrown into a fire.

Speaker 1

Mm-hmm.

Dion

Wage.

Quinny

Yes.

Dion

There’s just, there’s just a dichotomy. It’s a different time that you.

Quinny

Know it’s like going back and watching airplane.

Jill

It certainly.

Dion

Was certainly was, yes.

Quinny

You know that’s that’s one of those ones where you’re like, oh, that was really funny. Ohh ****, that doesn’t. That’s not cool anymore. But then again, that’s true of most things from the 80s and 70s.

Jill

Yeah, sure.

Dion

Yeah, yeah. I gotta say take. Yeah. Taken as a whole, there is some actually like the greatest thing about the naked gun, the Leslie Nielsen ones. The movies is that. Priscilla Presley is a ******* genius. She was a comedy God that we just didn’t recognise enough and go holy ****, she’s the best thing about those ones.

Speaker 4

Hmm.

Quinny

Yeah, yeah, anyway. And this one’s been lovely because Liam Neeson, who is the the star of it, has his wife died a few years ago, which was very, very sad. But he’s found love with Pamela Anderson, who is find who’s who’s found her second kind of wind as an actress. And now is going. You know what? I don’t need to be the the person that you all think of when you think of Pamela Anderson. I’m now in my 50s and I can, you know, do whatever the **** I want. And I’m like.

Jill

I saw the last showgirl the other weekend and it was beautiful movie. I thought she was fantastic in it.

Dion

Yeah, you killed me.

Quinny

And by all accounts, she’s a ******* great comedic actor too. So.

Dion

We’ll we’ll find out. We’ll find out at the end of this week and if we find anything more, that’s sort of key, poppy and fun. We’ll definitely let you know. Did you all have fun with it, though? Keep up demon hunters we want.

Quinny

Hey, what else are you watching? What you what you been watching to keep you happy?

Ardella

What have I been watching? My uni assessments.

Jill

Yeah.

Dion

No, no, no.

Ardella

Yeah. Sorry. I’m I’m. I’m a boring intellectual now.

Quinny

You you read.

Speaker 4

Means dissertations countdown.

Ardella

No, I actually have been having on in the background while I do that a lot of true crime. I’ve been listening to a podcast called The Casual Criminalist a lot. I’m not sure if you have heard of. Them, but it’s a wonderful gentleman who has incredible writers who do all of this research into a real true Crime Story and write a script for him. And he just sits there, reads the script out loud for the first time, has no background information or knowledge of this.

Speaker

Hmm.

Ardella

Piece of. True crime and inputs his own like thoughts and and guesses as to what’s about to happen and just has a bit of a chat about it. And it’s it. I find it very fun just to listen to in the background while I’m writing about change management in organizational culture.

Quinny

Ohh cool.

Speaker 2

Cool.

Dion

Ohh beck. I’m sorry, that’s just fun.

Ardella

Yeah, well, I just submitted my final uni assessment. Yeah. So I will. I’ll get back to you in a month with what?

Dion

Wait.

Ardella

I’ve picked up.

Dion

Yeah, you should just take up something simple now, like biochemistry. Sure, you can get back to that.

Ardella

I’ll get back to that, yeah.

Quinny

Then you become a brain surgeon. Then you can decide. Let’s fine. But it’s not exactly brain surgery, is it?

Dion

****. Stop with.

Speaker 13

That joke rocket scientist.

Jill

Yeah, I think it would be easy.

Quinny

Dear Jill, you’ve been watching anything good.

Dion

The like.

Jill

I watch summer slam this weekend. Hey. Two nights of carnage. Oh my God. Night 2. We had a tables, ladders and chairs match and holy **** Home Depot is out of tables because they broke every single one.

Dion

Ohh dear.

Jill

******* awesome. Someone, someone broke a ladder in half like it was a closed ladder. They went through it. It was awesome.

Quinny

I love this. I I love that like you know there is, there’s an alternate universe thing of like K pop demon Hunters, World Wrestling superheroes.

Ardella

Yeah.

Jill

Oh my God. My guy won the title and then he had it for all of two seconds and then his arch nemesis, who had faked a knee injury, came out. Cashed in his like. Contract to like take a title at any moment and stole it right then and there and I’m.

Dion

Like that? I’m just. I’m just massively concerned for that because I because I did a working at heights qualification last week and I know.

Jill

Brilliant story. Ohh, the OHSU would have been. They’ll throw the look at it.

Dion

That. Six 616% of fatalities happen. Also, 16% of workplace fatalities or even just fatalities. Forward heights come from just ladders, and it doesn’t have to be a very high weight.

Jill

Yeah, these guys are coming off the top of the turnbuckle onto 4 tables that have been stacked up.

Dion

Let’s just punch it. That’s just punching the numbers up. I can’t.

Jill

Watch that. Yeah, when the commentator says.

Speaker 4

I think they may be dead. I live.

Quinny

How many times did they go through the Spanish announcers table? Just that’s that’s the best to get. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4

Jill

About four times, about four times, and then once through the the American state, yeah.

Dion

How how do we pitch this? The sequel to Cape Pop demon hunters that include summer slam in? There. Yeah. So it is a weird mash of K pop and wrestling.

Ardella

And wrestling, I just don’t like violence.

Jill

Sling yeah.

Speaker 13

So I’ve never.

Ardella

It’s like you’re a disappointment to me. And the family. I can appreciate the drama. I can appreciate the storytelling. I can appreciate that it’s all pre planned. Yeah, but why do you have to hurt each other? Can’t we all just be friends?

Jill

Really hurting each other.

Quinny

They’re very talented at making it look. Like that they.

Jill

Just look like they hurt each other.

Dion

You can just go watch gymnastics back if you want to see.

Speaker 13

Some they get hurt.

Dion

Yeah, I know, but like.

Speaker

Yes.

Dion

That’s unplanned hurt. It hurt.

Jill

Yeah, my one’s all fake.

Speaker 13

Hurt. I’m not always. There is a casual criminalist about a wrestler who killed people. So crossover.

Quinny

Yeah. Wow.

Dion

Hulk Hogan’s gone now he can’t hurt us.

Quinny

Dion

Anymore. Ohh.

Jill

He might have had bad political views, but he wasn’t a murderer.

Dion

No, that we know of.

Quinny

Just a racist ***** ** ****.

Dion

Allegedly. Anyway.

Quinny

There you, uh, you got anything? Have you?

Dion

Been watching nothing as I’ve watched K pop demon hunters. That’s it. That’s all I have. It’s it’s my life.

Ardella

I feel like you can’t watch anything at the. Moment cause you’ll just tar it with a sad sack attitude.

Dion

Yeah, 100. Percent. Everything is trash. It doesn’t matter what it is. Just it’s all trash. It’s all terrible. Life is. The.

Ardella

Let us know when you wanna watch. Push puss in boots. Puss in boots. It’s so good. It’s so good, Dion.

Quinny

So good looking.

Dion

OK, I’ll get around to it like it’s.

Speaker 4

OK, you can have a little boys date night, yeah.

Speaker

I I thought.

Dion

I you know, you know, do you know what I’ve been watching that you all don’t give a **** about. I’ve been watching foundation because I’m an intellectual.

Speaker

Ohh yeah.

Quinny

You’re an old man.

Ardella

What’s foundation tell me about that?

Jill

The old man side.

Speaker

Yeah.

Ardella

Isn’t that Star Wars?

Speaker

**** ***.

Dion

I’m glad they got rid of marriage aid. That’s a specific attack from back. No old man sci-fi. So Isaac Asimov wrote foundation, the book series, and then they find Apple is trying to adapt it into the television series and like.

Quinny

Oh, oh, shots fired.

Dion

It. Poncy and ******* high concept and a little bit wankery, but I’m kind of enjoying it like now it’s into the third season, so it’s fine, you know. I’m watching, yeah. Still my bits.

Quinny

Yeah, I’ve picked up. I’ve been waiting. I’ve been busily trying to get through other things to get through to watching.

Dion

That the greatest thing about it is it just has had ****** tons of money punched into it by Apple. So you know, there is money on the screen. You don’t look at it and be like, oh, that was a bit cheap like you guys.

Speaker

You.

Dion

A lot of money. OK, a.

Quinny

Lot of money.

Jill

The other facet of my personality has been watching the Buccaneers on Apple Plus, and that is. What’s it called? Golden. What’s? Golden golden age. What the **** was that? Period? You **** me because it’s like England, but it’s Gilded Age America, but it’s like these Gilded Age American girls go to England to find husbands and it’s very trashy, but.

Dion

The Gilded Age, the Gilded Age. The one we’re having.

Ardella

It’s great, isn’t it? Written by the Downton Abbey.

Dion

So you.

Ardella

People. Or am I ID? Am I remembering that incorrectly?

Jill

I don’t know, but some **** went down in this season and it’s great.

Dion

I thought we were having a Gilded Age now because there’s a $200 million ballroom going into the White House.

Quinny

Yeah, well.

Jill

Building 2.0.

Quinny

Yeah, yeah. I I’ve been watching an interesting one that I was annoyed to find out is an ongoing series cause I thought it was a limited series and then got to an end of.

Dion

Yes.

Quinny

An episode and. Like ****** ******. So it’s smoke on Apple TV.

Jill

Oh yeah.

Quinny

This new Taron Egerton thing I like.

Ardella

Just. Taron Edgerton.

Quinny

Yeah, him. I enjoyed tarragon too. And and in this one he plays a spectacular cockhead. Like he, he is such a * **** ** it, but it’s very entertaining.

Dion

I have been bored ******** by it. Up until the last couple of episodes, I’m sorry I tried. I really did. Like I’ve I’ve I’ve done the whole kind of thing and I was like, it’s like, no, I was. It was really hard to kind of watch and get through and then up to the last couple of episodes, I was just like, ohh, OK, this is the point.

Ardella

Day on.

Speaker 6

Ohh.

Dion

Interesting but yeah, Taron Egerton playing.

Quinny

MHM.

Dion

Someone horrible.

Quinny

It’s all about arson investigators and he is.

Ardella

Is Taran the arsonist or?

Quinny

He’s the arson investigator and that remains to be.

Ardella

Not the arsonist.

Quinny

Seen.

Jill

Well, they’re investigating. This thing, like it’s always the, the volunteer firefighter that’s the ******* arsonist.

Speaker 4

It’s very nice then.

Dion

And journey, Smollett, who we haven’t seen since. I haven’t seen his Lovecraft country, which was. Great and have.

Quinny

I hadn’t seen since Harley Quinn and the birds of prey.

Speaker

Yeah.

Ardella

Gilded Age is in fact written and created by Julian Fellows, the same writer and creator of Downton Abbey.

Jill

Yeah, but my show’s not called the Gilded Age. That’s. A different show.

Quinny

Called the Buccaneers.

Speaker

My show is.

Jill

Called the Buccaneers, but it’s in the Gilded Age.

Ardella

Oh, there you go.

Dion

There is a show called the Gilded Age as well.

Speaker 4

Just what you just said. We’re professionals, yeah.

Dion

I thought it was the. Same thing.

Quinny

We’re very good at this. We’re so good at this.

Dion

There’s so much media out there.

Jill

There is a *******.

Speaker 13

Yeah, I’ve been watching a lot of. Law and order SV.

Ardella

Here done done. It’s still going, it’s it’s great background music because not music, obviously it’s great background noise because there’s 27.

Jill

Yeah.

Speaker 4

Yeah.

Ardella

Seasons of it and.

Speaker 13

You can just go through it. It’s great, yeah.

Quinny

And if you feel like really, you know, ******* up your day with that, apparently you can watch the war of the world that came out on Amazon. On, like literally this week starring Ice Cube from law and order or whichever one he’s in.

Speaker

Yeah.

Quinny

And it’s getting 0% on the ratings on on. Yeah, it’s like.

Ardella

Really.

Jill

Why?

Dion

The trailer is even terrible. Can you imagine doing a movie? But? The movie is is is about characters interacting with each other through like Web chat. It’s like this. This movie is the zoom meeting.

Jill

Wait, is it war? The world’s like based on. The South side.

Dion

Correct, yes.

Speaker

Ohh.

Dion

But it’s all.

Quinny

But it’s all through the the the the lens of somebody who is just looking at the computer screen. And looking at webcams and and security cameras and like facetiming, their daughter on their phone and the person in the chair is ice cube. And it’s apparently there’s a sequence where they actually go through purchasing things on Amazon. At one point they they give a homeless person an Amazon gift card.

Dion

Watching it happen.

Quinny

It is just. Like, it sounds like a.

Jill

Commercial.

Quinny

It is a commercial, but on top of that.

Ardella

Quinny, I’m sorry to let you know, but the the main black actor in law and order is not ice cube. It’s ice tea. Don’t **** so.

Quinny

It’s. Well, if you put ice cube in the ice tea long enough, he’s not there. Hey. And then it’s just all ice tea.

Dion

Does it become vanilla rice?

Ardella

No.

Quinny

Stop collaborating.

Speaker 6

Ohh.

Ardella

Ohh man. OK well, I’m glad I’ve had that quick review from you quinny cause I was intending to maybe peek at that and now I shan’t.

Quinny

Me too.

Speaker 4

Yeah.

Quinny

Yeah, it’s. It’s like, astonishingly bad reviews from everybody and. I kind of, yeah, currently sitting at 11. Percent on a popcorn meter, but 0% on various others. So.

Speaker 8

Goodness.

Dion

Yeah. OK. Apart from that, like I might try and go and see the Book of Mormon. This time around. Cause I’ve never seen. It. Yeah. Yay. Well, you should you.

Speaker 4

Should be doing this.

Dion

So much because you, because no one ever took me.

Ardella

It. We also have some friends who are working backstage on the production of the Book of Mormon in Sydney, so.

Dion

If I get around to it, I don’t know, but I also want to go and see.

Ardella

Let me go and.

Dion

The Kranski sisters.

Quinny

I haven’t seen those in years. Oh.

Dion

Yeah, exactly right. There’s the Boston, the possum, like. Oh, yeah, I got it.

Quinny

Yeah, that’s great.

Dion

Anyway.

Quinny

Ohh and Beck before we wrap it up, we really should wrap it up your thoughts on the new Spiderman outfit?

Ardella

I have no strong thoughts on the new Spiderman outfit. I’m just wondering where our home went from the titles.

Quinny

Oh, he got no home anymore because.

Ardella

There’s no home.

Quinny

He doesn’t exist.

Ardella

Yeah.

Dion

Yeah, no spuds. Thanks.

Speaker

Yeah.

Dion

Thanks for joining in. Thanks for the chat and thanks for joining this time back and giving us your CAP hop love.

Ardella

Thanks for welcoming me back all of you here and all of you in the.

Jill

Anytime. Chat I have missed you. Come anytime.

Speaker 4

Yeah.

Quinny

Yeah, you’re welcome back. Anytime you want to.

Dion

Not too many people, though, more than like 7 or 8 people is gonna be too much like how we. Like, we just feel like tiny little.

Ardella

And you told me 150, so I brought all my friends, yes.

Quinny

Yeah, you said the 100 and.

Dion

50 all talking at once. That’s what the podcast is now just noise. Get it? Make sure all the AI generated.

Quinny

Right. Yeah, let’s not do that, OK.

Dion

Little. All right, then we’re going to head off. That’s enough. We’ll see you for the weapons.

Speaker 13

That’s it. Bye.

Speaker 5

I want to live. In a world full of heroes, now sit here, counting zeroes in a cubicle downtown. I want to look out my window, see him flying and swing faster horizon. Your mom. So proud.

Speaker 14

The power girl. The guy.

Speaker 5

Sharon out of faith and tell Colossus and have them teach me wasting exercise. And teacher. I wanna.

Speaker

Well. Live.

Speaker 5

New world full like heroes not cooking up these heroes and my parents rest right now. I wanna yell out of ventures, a symbol not order up. Yeah, we’re right up. Cheeky now. Becky Bond and ARM wrestles for hours, Susan and May and bring her love the flowers.

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