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Dr. Mary Doherty & Elaine McGoldrick | Autistic SPACE in Practice | How Healthcare and Education Can Truly Meet Autistic Needs

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A clear, lived-experience guide to the Autistic SPACE framework—how sensory needs, predictability, acceptance, communication, and empathy transform care in clinics, hospitals, and classrooms.

Guests
  • Dr. Mary Doherty — Autistic physician and researcher; lead author of the Autistic SPACE framework for healthcare.

  • Elaine McGoldrick — Autistic educator and former special-education teacher; co-author on applying SPACE in schools.

  • Host: Michele Van Valey • Producer: Ian Lawton

What we cover
  • What "SPACE" means: Sensory needs • Predictability • Acceptance • Communication • Empathy Plus three supports: Physical space, Processing time, Emotional space.

  • Healthcare realities: Barriers to access, why overhead lights, crowded bays, and unexpected touch derail care; simple fixes that work; adaptations for anaesthesia and other specialties.

  • School realities: Masking, "fine at school, collapse at home," uniform policies as sensory traps; plan B/C for timetable changes; autonomy over compliance.

  • Double empathy: Meeting in the middle by adjusting practitioner/teacher behavior rather than forcing autistic people to mask.

  • Mental health and safeguarding: How normalization pressures damage self-concept and increase risk; why teaching autonomy matters.

  • Implementation tactics: Small pilots, one issue at a time, consistent staff cues, pausing instead of filling silence, validating first.

Practical takeaways
  • Flip first response: Lead with "You must have a good reason—tell me," then pause.

  • Turn down the environment: Single rooms or curtained bays, lights off, quiet corners.

  • Build predictability: Visual previews, clear next steps, agreed alternatives when plans change.

  • Protect processing time: Ask once; wait; don't rephrase unless needed.

  • Autonomy over coercion: Choices (red/blue shoes; partial attendance; blended learning).

  • Whole-school/whole-team consistency: Shared one-page SPACE plan that any staff member can follow.

Suggested chapters
  • 00:00 Intro & definitions

  • 05:40 Sensory needs and environmental tweaks

  • 07:30 Physical, processing, and emotional space

  • 12:40 Pausing, silence, and communication differences

  • 17:20 School refusal vs. system fit; reducing coercion

  • 23:30 Practical school accommodations and plan B/C

  • 27:20 Acceptance, identity, and mental health outcomes

  • 39:00 Double empathy in action

  • 44:40 Adoption paths: clinics, training, staff culture

  • 49:20 Closing notes and where SPACE is spreading

Resources mentioned (for show page)
  • Autistic SPACE framework paper (clinical settings)

  • Adaptations for anaesthesia; social care; snow sports

  • Lancet essay by Dr. Doherty on sensory overload and meltdown

Credits

Recording: Neuroconvergence Podcast Guests: Dr. Mary Doherty, Elaine McGoldrick • Host: Michele Van Valey • Production: Ian Lawton

Content warnings

Brief references to coercion in schools, ABA, and abuse risk.

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5 episodes

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A clear, lived-experience guide to the Autistic SPACE framework—how sensory needs, predictability, acceptance, communication, and empathy transform care in clinics, hospitals, and classrooms.

Guests
  • Dr. Mary Doherty — Autistic physician and researcher; lead author of the Autistic SPACE framework for healthcare.

  • Elaine McGoldrick — Autistic educator and former special-education teacher; co-author on applying SPACE in schools.

  • Host: Michele Van Valey • Producer: Ian Lawton

What we cover
  • What "SPACE" means: Sensory needs • Predictability • Acceptance • Communication • Empathy Plus three supports: Physical space, Processing time, Emotional space.

  • Healthcare realities: Barriers to access, why overhead lights, crowded bays, and unexpected touch derail care; simple fixes that work; adaptations for anaesthesia and other specialties.

  • School realities: Masking, "fine at school, collapse at home," uniform policies as sensory traps; plan B/C for timetable changes; autonomy over compliance.

  • Double empathy: Meeting in the middle by adjusting practitioner/teacher behavior rather than forcing autistic people to mask.

  • Mental health and safeguarding: How normalization pressures damage self-concept and increase risk; why teaching autonomy matters.

  • Implementation tactics: Small pilots, one issue at a time, consistent staff cues, pausing instead of filling silence, validating first.

Practical takeaways
  • Flip first response: Lead with "You must have a good reason—tell me," then pause.

  • Turn down the environment: Single rooms or curtained bays, lights off, quiet corners.

  • Build predictability: Visual previews, clear next steps, agreed alternatives when plans change.

  • Protect processing time: Ask once; wait; don't rephrase unless needed.

  • Autonomy over coercion: Choices (red/blue shoes; partial attendance; blended learning).

  • Whole-school/whole-team consistency: Shared one-page SPACE plan that any staff member can follow.

Suggested chapters
  • 00:00 Intro & definitions

  • 05:40 Sensory needs and environmental tweaks

  • 07:30 Physical, processing, and emotional space

  • 12:40 Pausing, silence, and communication differences

  • 17:20 School refusal vs. system fit; reducing coercion

  • 23:30 Practical school accommodations and plan B/C

  • 27:20 Acceptance, identity, and mental health outcomes

  • 39:00 Double empathy in action

  • 44:40 Adoption paths: clinics, training, staff culture

  • 49:20 Closing notes and where SPACE is spreading

Resources mentioned (for show page)
  • Autistic SPACE framework paper (clinical settings)

  • Adaptations for anaesthesia; social care; snow sports

  • Lancet essay by Dr. Doherty on sensory overload and meltdown

Credits

Recording: Neuroconvergence Podcast Guests: Dr. Mary Doherty, Elaine McGoldrick • Host: Michele Van Valey • Production: Ian Lawton

Content warnings

Brief references to coercion in schools, ABA, and abuse risk.

  continue reading

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