Dr. Mary Doherty & Elaine McGoldrick | Autistic SPACE in Practice | How Healthcare and Education Can Truly Meet Autistic Needs
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A clear, lived-experience guide to the Autistic SPACE framework—how sensory needs, predictability, acceptance, communication, and empathy transform care in clinics, hospitals, and classrooms.
GuestsDr. Mary Doherty — Autistic physician and researcher; lead author of the Autistic SPACE framework for healthcare.
Elaine McGoldrick — Autistic educator and former special-education teacher; co-author on applying SPACE in schools.
Host: Michele Van Valey • Producer: Ian Lawton
What "SPACE" means: Sensory needs • Predictability • Acceptance • Communication • Empathy Plus three supports: Physical space, Processing time, Emotional space.
Healthcare realities: Barriers to access, why overhead lights, crowded bays, and unexpected touch derail care; simple fixes that work; adaptations for anaesthesia and other specialties.
School realities: Masking, "fine at school, collapse at home," uniform policies as sensory traps; plan B/C for timetable changes; autonomy over compliance.
Double empathy: Meeting in the middle by adjusting practitioner/teacher behavior rather than forcing autistic people to mask.
Mental health and safeguarding: How normalization pressures damage self-concept and increase risk; why teaching autonomy matters.
Implementation tactics: Small pilots, one issue at a time, consistent staff cues, pausing instead of filling silence, validating first.
Flip first response: Lead with "You must have a good reason—tell me," then pause.
Turn down the environment: Single rooms or curtained bays, lights off, quiet corners.
Build predictability: Visual previews, clear next steps, agreed alternatives when plans change.
Protect processing time: Ask once; wait; don't rephrase unless needed.
Autonomy over coercion: Choices (red/blue shoes; partial attendance; blended learning).
Whole-school/whole-team consistency: Shared one-page SPACE plan that any staff member can follow.
00:00 Intro & definitions
05:40 Sensory needs and environmental tweaks
07:30 Physical, processing, and emotional space
12:40 Pausing, silence, and communication differences
17:20 School refusal vs. system fit; reducing coercion
23:30 Practical school accommodations and plan B/C
27:20 Acceptance, identity, and mental health outcomes
39:00 Double empathy in action
44:40 Adoption paths: clinics, training, staff culture
49:20 Closing notes and where SPACE is spreading
Autistic SPACE framework paper (clinical settings)
Adaptations for anaesthesia; social care; snow sports
Lancet essay by Dr. Doherty on sensory overload and meltdown
Recording: Neuroconvergence Podcast Guests: Dr. Mary Doherty, Elaine McGoldrick • Host: Michele Van Valey • Production: Ian Lawton
Content warningsBrief references to coercion in schools, ABA, and abuse risk.
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