You might recall Joe Sasto and his mustache from Top Chef. His new book, Breaking the Rules, is full of fun spins on classic recipes—think focaccia with blackberries, Everything Bagel Pasta, and a savory crumble you can take in a ton of different directions. In Episode 64 of The Dinner Plan podcast, Joe talks with host Maggie Hoffman about the food magazine he's collected for years, the unusual method he uses for cooking dried pasta, and the cooking creators online that inspire him most. Get two pasta recipes from Joe and all the links to his go-to pantry staples over at the newsletter: TheDinnerPlan.Substack.com.

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