In this excellent interview, Adam sits down with Sarah Clayton Jones.

Sarah is the Founder and CEO of Read to Lead, an organisation that delivers book-inspired peer learning experiences to develop human-skilled leaders and connected teams. With over 20 years of experience leading teams at global organisations, including VW and Accenture, Sarah is an ICF-accredited performance coach, facilitator, and certified NLP and neuroscience practitioner.

In this episode, Sarah talks Adam through why it's business-critical to get people to think differently and how to overcome the common barriers that stand in the way. Sarah shares her journey into L&D and explains her unique, book-led approach to fostering cognitive diversity and creating a culture of curiosity.

In this episode, Sarah and Adam cover:

1. Why thinking differently is essential for organisational growth, innovation, and resilience.
2. The common barriers to new ways of thinking, including the need for certainty and a lack of psychological safety.
3. How to use books and structured, peer-led dialogue to catalyse change.
4. Practical tips for designing learning experiences that provoke thinking shifts, focusing on "one insight, one action".
5. Approaches to measuring the impact and ROI of developing human skills.

Sarah gives practical advice on how to build a culture of curiosity and connection by challenging assumptions and making it safe to explore new ideas. If you are looking to spark innovation in your teams, this is a must-listen-to episode.

Connect with Sarah on LinkedIn: Sarah Clayton-Jones, FLPI
Find out more about Read to Lead: Read To Lead

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