In this episode, we give ourselves a chance to mentally regroup. Our conversation touches on multiple topics, including why we feel like we have to fill up all our time with work, the interconnection of art and personal growth, and solving the right problems.

Recorded on April 20th, 2024

Timestamps:

(0:28) Intro

(1:14) Robyn’s week

(3:50) We don’t have hobbies anymore

(4:54) Emotional cycles

(11:47) Feeling like we have to fill up all of our time

(19:18) Acknowledging our humanness

(20:49) Michelle’s week

(26:41) Episode 20

(30:17) Art and personal growth

(32:08) Solving the right problems

(37:32) Misconceptions about what it means to be an artist

(40:50) Everyone gets to define their relationship with creativity

(43:05) We don’t have it all figured out

(46:40) People who position themselves as experts

(56:33) Outro

Resources, references, and further exploration:

Ogres have layers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJQmVZSAqlc

Books mentioned:

Clear Thinking by Shane Parrish: https://fs.blog/clear/

Think Again by Adam Grant: https://adamgrant.net/book/think-again/

Quotes, ideas, and insights:

“In my walks, every man I meet is my superior in some way, and in that I learn from him.” - Ralph Waldo Emerson

Links:

Learn more about Robyn at https://www.robynlester.com/

Learn more about Michelle at https://www.michellemonettemusic.com/

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Credits:

Podcast art by: Robyn Lester

Theme music by: Michelle Monette

Podcast editing by: Michelle Monette