In this episode, guest Anthony Chang, MD, returns to discuss the medical benefits of utilizing AI technology in concert with human thinking, and governing AI in health care. • Intro 2:36 • Anthony Chang, MD 2:50 • How do you do it all? 3:40 • What drove your interest in AI? 5:12 • Bhargava and Chang on how nature and medicine can be mathematical. 7:42 • Bhargava and Chang on combining analytical thinking and gut feelings as physicians, and how AI plays a role in this combination. 13:50 • Do you feel that physicians and AI should work in silos, or should they work together? How do you ensure that this collaboration is a smooth transition? 15:12 • How can the average clinician, how do we bring them to the table and get them to use these tools so we can get the best results? 19:26 • Is scheming in AI something that concerns you? 23:22 • How can we ensure that there are more guardrails in AI governance? 26:17 • Who is responsible if AI makes an incorrect decision and the physician acts on it? 27:43 • If there is an AI tool that has been proven to help patients (i.e. in early detection), could an institution be legally liable for not using the tool? 29:05 • How can more physicians be brought to the table to design these tools and be better equipped to handle the major challenges presented by AI governance? 30:51 • Should clinicians be getting board certified to become digital translators, or are there other ways to become “bilingual”? 34:32 • What are some resources you can share with physicians who are interested in learning more about becoming fluent in AI, and tell us more about your conference, AIMed25? 36:22 • What does the world look like in five years related to AI in health, according to Anthony Chang? 40:06 • Thanks 46:38 Anthony Chang, MD, MBA, MS, is a pediatric cardiologist with a MS in data science from Stanford and a certification in AI from MIT. He is the medical director of the heart failure program at Children’s Hospital of Orange County and chief intelligence and innovation officer of CHOC where he founded the CHOC Sharon Disney Lund Medical Intelligence, Information, Investigation and Innovation Institute or Mi4. Chang is a national and international leader as a speaker, author, convener and the founder of numerous successful societies including the International Society for Pediatric Innovation, AIMed, ABAIM, providing education and certification in AI, the Medical Intelligence Society and most recently created the Alliance for Centers in Artificial Intelligence in Medicine, along with PCAIM, its pediatric component, now with over 100 centers from around the globe.

We’d love to hear from you! Send your comments/questions to Dr. Bhargava at [email protected]. For more from Chang, contact him at (949)-547-8902. Learn more about AIMed25, happening November 10-12, 2025 in San Diego, CA.

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Disclosures: Bhargava and Chang report no relevant financial disclosures.