From Burnout to Breakthrough: Health, AI, and Becoming a Scale Up CEO

In this powerful episode of the Grown Up Business Podcast, Paul Avins sits down with Carly Meyers, Founder & CEO of Made For More AI, to explore the critical link between entrepreneurial health, automation, and sustainable business growth.

Together, they unpack the harsh truth most business owners ignore:

Too many entrepreneurs trade their health today for wealth tomorrow, only to pay the price later in burnout, breakdown, or business stagnation.

Paul shares his own high-stakes health crisis that forced him to confront this very mindset, while Carly talks about how building automated systems not only saves time but can also free up entrepreneurs from the constant firefighting trap, giving them space to take care of themselves and focus on high-level growth.

At the heart of this discussion is a game-changing message: in order to scale to 7 and 8 figures, entrepreneurs must evolve beyond being “operators” and fully embrace the identity of a true Scale Up CEO.

With raw honesty and practical insight, Paul and Carly challenge the old narratives of hustle culture and provide a refreshing reminder that health and business are not mutually exclusive—they are deeply intertwined.

Key Takeaways

• The pivotal transition from being an operator to adopting the identity of a Scale Up CEO is non-negotiable for sustainable growth.
• Health isn’t a “someday fix”—entrepreneurs must invest in it now to avoid burnout and build longevity.
• Immersive environments like retreats and summits create the breakthroughs that can save you years of wasted time.
• A supportive peer network is a secret weapon against the isolation and self-doubt of entrepreneurship.
• True success in business is not just financial but also about quality of life, energy, and long-term fulfilment.

About Carly Meyers

Carly Meyers is the Founder & CEO of Made For More AI, an innovative consultancy helping service-based businesses harness the power of AI and automation to streamline operations, reclaim their time, and scale profitably.

Often described as an AI Growth Architect, Carly has a rare gift for simplifying complex technology so that even the most non-technical entrepreneur can implement it with confidence. Her frameworks have helped founders transform clunky manual processes into scalable, systemised growth engines, freeing them to focus on strategy, impact, and revenue.

Carly’s entrepreneurial journey has been fuelled by one core belief: you don’t have to sacrifice health, family, or freedom to grow a thriving business. A sought-after business coach and keynote speaker, she regularly shares the mindset shifts and automation strategies that allow entrepreneurs to build businesses that are both profitable and sustainable.

Resources & Links

• Connect with Carly Meyers on LinkedIn → Carly Meyers | LinkedIn
• Learn more about Carly → Carly Meyers - AI Growth Architect
• Follow Paul Avins for Scale Up insights on LinkedIn → Paul Avins | LinkedIn
• Transform your business at the Grown Up Business Retreat → The Grown Up Business Retreat 2025

Next Steps

Action Now: Write down the 3 actions from this episode you’ll apply in your business over the next 72 hours.

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