This week, we're doing something a little different. Andrew recently joined Mike on the Freaking Cool Indies podcast for a conversation that struck right at the heart of what Indie Game Movement is all about: empathy, perspective, and understanding the people behind the player data.

In this shared episode, Andrew opens up about why empathy isn't just a marketing strategy—it's the foundation of how he approaches problem-solving, community building, and even this very podcast. Together, Mike and Andrew explore why players choose to invest their time in certain games, how human motivation gets lost in a sea of analytics, and how more empathetic thinking can transform your development and marketing from the inside out.

If you've ever felt like your marketing efforts weren't connecting the way they should—or if you've wondered how to make your communication feel more authentic—this conversation offers a grounded, honest, and deeply practical look at how empathy can lead to stronger audience relationships and more fulfilling creative work.

Episode Shownotes Link: https://rengenmarketing.com/431