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Jeff Wenninger's journey from hockey player to 33-year law enforcement veteran provides a fascinating lens through which to examine police culture in America. Drawing from his unique background, Wenninger offers candid insights into the critical gaps plaguing modern policing – particularly the absence of critical thinking in a profession where split-second decisions can have life-altering consequences.
The conversation takes a sobering turn when Wenninger reveals that 36% of officer-involved shootings involve individuals experiencing mental health crises. He challenges the standard approach of multiple officers giving simultaneous commands with weapons drawn, noting how this often escalates rather than de-escalates volatile situations. His philosophy – "Just because you can doesn't mean you should" – encapsulates his belief that legal justification alone shouldn't determine an officer's actions.
Wenninger's global research into policing models offers hope for improvement. His time with London's Metropolitan Police revealed striking differences in approaches to suspects with non-firearm weapons, while Nordic countries' comprehensive selection and training processes demonstrate alternative pathways to building better police forces. These comparisons highlight both the challenges and possibilities for American law enforcement reform.
Perhaps most powerful is Wenninger's personal story of navigating racial tensions within the force shortly after the Los Angeles riots, and his commitment to community engagement despite ridicule from fellow officers. These experiences shaped his understanding that effective policing requires seeing shared humanity across divides and building genuine connections with community members.
Now as founder and CEO of Law Enforcement Consultants and author of the forthcoming book "On Thin Ice," Wenninger works to implement management best practices that can transform policing for the 21st century. His message combines realism about institutional resistance to change with hope that, with patience and commitment, law enforcement can evolve to better serve all communities.

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Pamela Cass is a licensed broker with Kentwood Real Estate
Natalie Davis is a licensed broker with Keller Williams Realty Downtown, LLC