Kathy Julien has spent the last 40 years flying jets and defying expectations. But nothing in her storied career could prepare her for the loss of her 24-year-old son, Eric. In this deeply emotional episode, Kathy opens up about parenting twins, navigating a son’s battle with addiction and type 1 diabetes, and the grief that followed when she lost him. What began as a conversation about motherhood quickly deepens into a raw and powerful account of love, loss, and what comes next.

Kathy shares what it was like to fight for her son again and again—through relapses, recovery centers, and missed milestones—while also juggling the demands of a high-profile career. But this is more than a story about grief. It’s a story about how Kathy chose to survive it. From planting a memorial tree near a skate park, to launching her podcast Another Empty Kitchen, to starting a foundation in Eric’s name, Kathy’s journey is filled with action, healing, and intention.

We also talk about manifesting new chapters, breaking generational patterns, and the power of turning pain into purpose. Kathy doesn’t sugarcoat her story—but she does show us what it means to keep going, to find meaning, and to honor a loved one by living out loud. Her story is equal parts heartbreaking and uplifting—and an unforgettable listen for anyone who’s ever felt lost inside their own grief.
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