In this special episode of Our Dead Dads Podcast, I sit down with returning guests—and real-life couple—Matthew Struck and Jocelyn Bates. Both have shared their powerful grief journeys individually: Jocelyn losing both of her parents just a week apart, and Matthew processing the loss of his father to suicide. But today, we go beyond their personal stories to talk about grief in relationships—what it looks like to navigate loss together, how it shapes a partnership, and the ways they’ve supported each other through the hardest moments.

This conversation is honest, raw, and unexpectedly full of laughter. We discuss the ways grief sneaks into daily life, how different grieving styles can challenge a relationship, and the surprising moments of joy that can emerge even in the midst of profound loss. Whether you’re grieving yourself or supporting someone who is, this episode is a deep dive into the complexities of love, loss, and everything in between.

Matthew and Jocelyn open up about the hardest parts of their journey but also share the moments that have strengthened their bond. If you’ve ever wondered how grief affects a relationship—or how a relationship can help you survive grief—this episode is for you.

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