38. Julie Pham on Mastering Curiosity as a Practice

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“Curiosity isn’t a trait — it’s a practice. And like any practice, we have to keep doing it even when it’s hard.” — Dr. Julie Pham

In this episode of Humanism Now, we explore curiosity as a practice. Dr. Julie Pham — social scientist, community builder, and author of the bestselling 7 Forms of Respect® — joins us to unpack how curiosity, respect, and communication transform not just workplaces, but our relationships and communities.

As the founder and CEO of CuriosityBased, Dr. Pham teaches leaders and teams how to embed curiosity into daily practice — through self-awareness, relationship-building, and clear communication. Drawing from her personal story and professional insight, Julie shares how our assumptions about listening, respect, and disagreement shape the way we connect and collaborate.

In this episode:

Why curiosity is a skill, not a trait — and how to develop it
How to approach difficult conversations using the CAFA method (Context, Action, Feeling, Ask)
The difference between hearing and believing — and why it matters
Respect is relative: how upbringing and culture shape our communication
How curiosity bridges differences — even across generational, cultural, and political divides
When not to have the conversation: the two questions to ask before engaging

Featured Resources:

📕 7 Forms of Respect: www.formsofrespect.com
🧠 CuriosityBased: www.curiositybased.com
🎥 TEDx TalkCuriosity as a Practice: Watch here
🎧 Curiosity at Work podcast: Listen here

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Music: Blossom by Light Prism

Chapters

1. Introduction to Julie Pham and CuriosityBased (00:00:00)

2. The Three Elements of Curiosity (00:01:15)

3. Why We Think Others Don't Listen (00:02:44)

4. Relationship between Curiosity & Empathy (00:05:17)

5. Recognising Feelings and Understating You Want (00:07:31)

6. Preparing for Curious Conversations - CAFA Method (00:12:13)

7. Multiple Truths Can Coexist (00:12:29)

8. The Paradox of Tolerance (00:17:31)

9. How Beliefs Influence our Ability to Be Curious (00:22:26)

10. How has Practicing Curiosity Changed Julie's Views (00:25:07)

11. Benefits of Practicing Curiosity - Lifelong Learning (00:26:51)

12. Advice for Approaching Difficult Conversations (00:29:51)

13. Changing minds on Curiosity as a Trait (00:31:27)

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