DMT: Death By Astonishment with Andrew Gallimore

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Imagine your brain as a world-building engine that never shows you the thing-in-itself, only a model tuned for survival. Now imagine a molecule that doesn’t just bend that model but switches it to a fully formed, hyper-detailed reality populated by entities that seem to think, act, and sometimes deny you entry. That’s the claim at the heart of our conversation with computational neurobiologist and DMT researcher Andrew Gallimore, author of Death by Astonishment.
We start by laying the groundwork: predictive brains, interface theory, and why ordinary dreams and hallucinations reuse what the brain already knows. From there we compare classic psychedelics—LSD, psilocybin, mescaline—with DMT. The former loosen constraints; the latter appears to replace the entire world model. Reports converge on crystalline clarity, higher-dimensional geometry, and interactive beings that feel autonomous. Andrew introduces the “lockout” effect, where access can be refused, and argues that orthodox neuroscience struggles to explain structured, agent-like phenomena arising so quickly and coherently.
The breakthrough comes with extended-state DMT using target-controlled infusion—a medical technique borrowed from anesthesia—to hold explorers in the space for 30 to 90 minutes or longer. Early pilots suggest the state stabilizes, enabling intentional interaction and systematic observation. We explore a research roadmap: send in mathematicians to probe topology, linguists to parse symbolism, anthropologists to map social rules, artists to render lawful structure. Instead of asking entities to prove themselves, we let experts recognize operations that exceed typical human cognition, like effortless four-color theorem tilings or impossible geometric transforms performed in real time.
We also talk safety, differences between DMT, ayahuasca, and 5-MeO, and emerging retreat-and-research models that combine medical oversight with rigorous protocols. Whether DMT reveals autonomous minds, emergent intelligence, or a yet-unknown information source, extended-state studies could convert private revelation into public evidence. Subscribe, share with a curious friend, and leave a review with the question you’d ask if you had an hour in the DMT space. What test would convince you that contact is real?

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Chapters

1. Framing Reality As A Brain-Built Model (00:00:00)

2. Simulation Talk And Species-Specific Perception (00:04:15)

3. From Perception To Prediction: How Brains Test Reality (00:07:00)

4. Psychedelics 101: How They Alter The Model (00:09:20)

5. Why DMT Isn’t Like Other Psychedelics (00:12:35)

6. Are We Meeting Independent Intelligences (00:16:20)

7. Dreams, Hallucinations, And DMT’s Mystery (00:19:15)

8. Ayahuasca, 5-MeO, And Safety Notes (00:23:40)

9. The “Hidden Operating System” Metaphor (00:26:00)

10. Extending The Journey: DMT Infusion (00:27:05)

11. Early Findings From Long-Form DMT (00:31:30)

12. Testing Intelligence: Math, Maps, And Limits (00:34:20)

13. The Future: Retreats, Research, And Access (00:38:25)

14. Closing And Resources (00:48:49)

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