⚠️ Trigger Warning: This episode contains graphic discussions of extreme violence, child abuse, sexual assault, and murder. Listener discretion is not just advised—it is absolutely necessary. Please take care of yourselves before deciding to listen.

This week, we dive headfirst into the dark, gut-wrenching cases of two absolute monsters: Stephen Richards, one of the earliest recorded serial killers in American history, and the disgusting, irredeemable, complete piece of shit Joseph Duncan, whose crimes left us broken in ways we didn’t even expect.

We pride ourselves on balancing spooky chaos with true crime storytelling, but this episode… whew. Joseph Duncan shattered us. You’ll hear it—we couldn’t stop crying, and we deeply apologize for the sniffles throughout the second half of the episode. It was raw, it was real, and it reminded us just how heavy this work can get.

Of course, we still manage to keep things somewhat on brand—with our usual tangents, gallows humor, and the occasional ridiculous side track to breathe through the darkness.

So grab your sage, your tissues, and maybe a stress snack or two. This episode is messy, heartbreaking, and heavy as hell—but it’s also one of the most honest conversations we’ve ever had on the podcast.

✨ Stay spooky and saged. And hug your loved ones a little tighter after this one.