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đď¸ Before It Was Safe: The Lives That Made Pride Possible
Manage episode 487087682 series 3485969
New episodes every Thursday | Hosted by Blaine & Reed
This episode kicks off our Pride Month arc with a truth bomb:
Pride didnât start with rainbow merchâit started with people who had to survive silence.
Weâre bringing you the raw, redemptive story of Matt, a man outed after 35 years of marriage to a woman. His journey cracks open a larger conversation about how far weâve comeâand how far we still have to go.
We also dive into the hidden lives of queer Hollywood icons: Cary Grant, Rock Hudson, Katharine Hepburnâand the man who claimed to know all their secrets, Scotty Bowers.
đĽ Want more? We fully unpack the Scotty Bowers documentary, and you can stream it free on Tubi. Itâs messy, revealing, and morally complicatedâbut worth watching if you care about how queer history has been told (and sold).
And yesâthe pod is officially relaunching. New tone. New vibe. Still brunch-table realness.
âąď¸ Chapter Breakdown:
00:00 â Welcome to Pride Month + Personal Reflections
01:13 â Mattâs Story: Outed After 35 Years
03:39 â Relaunching Coffee with Gays
04:42 â Old Hollywood and LGBTQ Representation
07:44 â Cary Grant & Randolph Scottâs Complex Relationship
10:46 â Scotty Bowers and the Secrets of Tinseltown
13:46 â The Moral Dilemma of Outing the Dead
16:45 â Rock Hudson, AIDS, and Americaâs Wake-Up Call
25:05 â Names, Identity, and Cultural Framing
27:00 â The Legacy of Rock Hudson and Representation
28:31 â Katharine Hepburnâs Queer Subtext
33:19 â Monogamy vs. Non-Monogamy in Todayâs Gay World
40:32 â How Safe Are We Really?
45:09 â LGBTQ Activism: Then vs. Now
50:22 â Why Pride Still Matters
⨠In This Episode:
- The danger and dignity in Mattâs late-in-life coming out
- The moral mess of outing celebrities after death
- The dark underbelly of Old Hollywoodâs golden age
- Scotty Bowers: whistleblower or opportunist?
- Pride vs. performanceâwhere do we stand today?
đ§ Why It Matters:
Not every hero was a protester. Some were lovers who died without being seen. Some made art. Some just survived. And someâlike Mattâare still figuring it out.
This episode is for them. And for everyone still walking the line between privacy and pride.
đ§ Listen if youâve ever:
- Felt conflicted about visibility
- Wondered who really "made Pride possible"
- Wanted to scream during a bad Grindr date
đ˛ Follow @coffeewithgays, hit that subscribe button, and tell us in the comments:
Who made your Pride possible?
Let me know if you want this adapted for Buzzsprout preview text or shortened for You
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đş Follow us on TikTok
đĽ Subscribe to our YouTube Channel
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đľ Subscribe on Spotify Podcasts
â¤ď¸ Subscribe on iHeart Radio
đ Check Out Our Website: https://www.coffeewithgays.com/
Chapters
1. Matt's Outing Story Introduction (00:00:00)
2. Relaunching Coffee with Gays (00:04:16)
3. Old Hollywood's Gay Celebrities (00:10:05)
4. Cary Grant and Randolph Scott (00:17:25)
5. Rock Hudson's Double Life (00:24:13)
6. Katherine Hepburn and George Cukor (00:28:25)
7. Dangers of Being Gay in Old America (00:41:10)
8. Modern Pride Discourse and Privilege (00:46:30)
9. Podcast Updates and New Series (00:50:44)
18 episodes
Manage episode 487087682 series 3485969
New episodes every Thursday | Hosted by Blaine & Reed
This episode kicks off our Pride Month arc with a truth bomb:
Pride didnât start with rainbow merchâit started with people who had to survive silence.
Weâre bringing you the raw, redemptive story of Matt, a man outed after 35 years of marriage to a woman. His journey cracks open a larger conversation about how far weâve comeâand how far we still have to go.
We also dive into the hidden lives of queer Hollywood icons: Cary Grant, Rock Hudson, Katharine Hepburnâand the man who claimed to know all their secrets, Scotty Bowers.
đĽ Want more? We fully unpack the Scotty Bowers documentary, and you can stream it free on Tubi. Itâs messy, revealing, and morally complicatedâbut worth watching if you care about how queer history has been told (and sold).
And yesâthe pod is officially relaunching. New tone. New vibe. Still brunch-table realness.
âąď¸ Chapter Breakdown:
00:00 â Welcome to Pride Month + Personal Reflections
01:13 â Mattâs Story: Outed After 35 Years
03:39 â Relaunching Coffee with Gays
04:42 â Old Hollywood and LGBTQ Representation
07:44 â Cary Grant & Randolph Scottâs Complex Relationship
10:46 â Scotty Bowers and the Secrets of Tinseltown
13:46 â The Moral Dilemma of Outing the Dead
16:45 â Rock Hudson, AIDS, and Americaâs Wake-Up Call
25:05 â Names, Identity, and Cultural Framing
27:00 â The Legacy of Rock Hudson and Representation
28:31 â Katharine Hepburnâs Queer Subtext
33:19 â Monogamy vs. Non-Monogamy in Todayâs Gay World
40:32 â How Safe Are We Really?
45:09 â LGBTQ Activism: Then vs. Now
50:22 â Why Pride Still Matters
⨠In This Episode:
- The danger and dignity in Mattâs late-in-life coming out
- The moral mess of outing celebrities after death
- The dark underbelly of Old Hollywoodâs golden age
- Scotty Bowers: whistleblower or opportunist?
- Pride vs. performanceâwhere do we stand today?
đ§ Why It Matters:
Not every hero was a protester. Some were lovers who died without being seen. Some made art. Some just survived. And someâlike Mattâare still figuring it out.
This episode is for them. And for everyone still walking the line between privacy and pride.
đ§ Listen if youâve ever:
- Felt conflicted about visibility
- Wondered who really "made Pride possible"
- Wanted to scream during a bad Grindr date
đ˛ Follow @coffeewithgays, hit that subscribe button, and tell us in the comments:
Who made your Pride possible?
Let me know if you want this adapted for Buzzsprout preview text or shortened for You
Follow Us! The Hosts are on our linktr.ee đ
đ Visit our Linktree For All the Socials
đş Follow us on TikTok
đĽ Subscribe to our YouTube Channel
đ¸ Follow us on Instagram
đŚ Follow us on Twitter
đ Subscribe on Apple Podcasts
đľ Subscribe on Spotify Podcasts
â¤ď¸ Subscribe on iHeart Radio
đ Check Out Our Website: https://www.coffeewithgays.com/
Chapters
1. Matt's Outing Story Introduction (00:00:00)
2. Relaunching Coffee with Gays (00:04:16)
3. Old Hollywood's Gay Celebrities (00:10:05)
4. Cary Grant and Randolph Scott (00:17:25)
5. Rock Hudson's Double Life (00:24:13)
6. Katherine Hepburn and George Cukor (00:28:25)
7. Dangers of Being Gay in Old America (00:41:10)
8. Modern Pride Discourse and Privilege (00:46:30)
9. Podcast Updates and New Series (00:50:44)
18 episodes
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